ADHD0ug Posted March 20, 2017 Author Posted March 20, 2017 I understand, I'll do my utmost best not to screw this up. I have to say ahead of time though that there may be some, hopefully minor, incidents related to my being new to the game overall. The round before the one that banned me I tried out chef, but the whole station had already gone wild and there were no food sources available and everybody was starving. The previous chef was just lying on the floor, so I tried to cut him up for meat since I'd seen that was a thing, probably on Paradise the night Aurora was dead. Only a few stabs in I got knocked out and an admin explained that wasn't cool and why. That's fine, my bad. Hopefully I don't get into anything banworthy and can eventually dig myself out of this reputation hole. What I'm scared of now is that it sounds like it's not ME that's been unbanned, and that you're still convinced I'm the other guy and unbanned THEM. The alias list was pretty long indicating they're ridiculously persistent in their griefing, AND it was mentioned they tried to appeal the bans. What happens if they come back and chucklefuck? I get fucked right along with them because there's no way to differentiate the account? Making a new account wouldn't help because I'd still have the same computer ID right? It'd just get tagged as another alias on the same ban list? What happens if my computer ID spontaneously changes again? I know you don't believe me on any of this but please humor me with an answer. Would that dig my hole even deeper or would that actually untie me from the other account somehow? I sympathize with your position, for having described the situation as being 99.99% impossible I have to say I'm impressed with the degree of professionalism you were able to retain and thank you for the apology for what little bitterness was portrayed.
Skull132 Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 What happens if they come back and chucklefuck? You too get banned. And depending on the reason, that ban will not be lifted. The system is incapable of decoupling identifiers like this, and for good reason. The chance of an erroneous match is so amazingly minute (unless you count pirated Windows, but, we're not too concerned about that). However, after thorough investigation, I've never seen your CID be used by more than one player at a time. So if it gets banned, all mirrors placed on it will be valid. And as stated, henceforth, we will not care for appeal. What happens if my computer ID spontaneously changes again? Nothing. First off, because it won't. Unless you do something drastic like swap out harddrives or get a new PC. Secondly, nothing unless you use one of them CID randomizers, you may just get autobanned if I ever implement that. Don't use randomizers, kids. We don't track CID changes unless we can perceive attempt to dodge punishment (like in ban appeals). If you can do one of those drastic things, it would help in the sense that we can calmly ban the offending CID without you having to worry. Anyways, the bans are lifted. You should be able to join. Please post a reply after testing, so I know whether to close this or if there's another ban I need to lift.
ADHD0ug Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 Sorry for the wait, gave it a couple days while I contacted BYOND support. Good news is they can vouch for me not being the banned individual, bad news is they are seeing two computers as well. Anyway, just checked and I can indeed log in, so thanks! Just hope we can continue to work on separating me from Mr. Multiban. On that note, here's the response from support in full: You'll probably want to refer those admins to me via the support form. I can vouch for your story here. What appears to have happened is that one of your computers has a computer_id that is somehow generic, and a lot of people have that same ID. You also have another computer that doesn't. This could also possibly point to the use of a virtual machine. There are several known generic computer_ids; this appears to either be a new one that wasn't previously known, or as I said possibly a VM. Your login records only show you using this generic/VM computer_id as of Thursday the 16th. Prior to that, your computer_id shows up as a clean one that belongs to only you. -- Lummox JR
Scheveningen Posted April 29, 2017 Posted April 29, 2017 Motioning to archive as the bans are lifted. Issues mentioned are taken into consideration for the future.
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