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Visegrad Canonization Application
KattenHatten replied to Kintsugi's topic in Lore Canonization Applications Archive
"..Since then, the population growth trend for humanity has been exponential, plateauing off slightly in the 21st century, but skyrocketing again with the emergence of planetary colonization. Approximately 20% of all humans live on Earth. There was significant religious and ideological turmoil within humanity throughout its history, which often resulted in warfare and violence. In the 22nd Century the global economy collapsed by more than half.." Could poland in it's current IRL state catch up a crew, able (no offense) to gather a whole bunch of highly-qualified specialists, drop them on a colonisation ship (food, materials, minerals, habitat stuff and other - built from a scratch) and say like "hey, you're now will be completely polish, understood? Or we'll come and nuke you" or something in that matter. They will have to do that in 100 years, to gather everything they need, because after that it would collapse into economic turmoil, and colonists would notice missing supplies and orders from earth, and after that, they would still have to stay polish. Or even to keep up records of them being polish, not some kind of "great god kin" or something. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirosław_Hermaszewski - is the only polish dude that's even been to space. Could you imagine a whole ship being built with people of his kind? They would have to have food, water, supplies, communications, EVERYTHING. Untill a colony 'll become self-sufficient. -
[Accepted] Sherman Seeks the Grail of Command
KattenHatten replied to The7thLain's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
Popped up as a chief medical. Seems to be cared about blob. Asked for a detective to look up after single engi in a team -
So, a poor person would be skyrocketed to a whole corporation representative among a whole station? He's gotta have a lot of connections to make it up. And a lot of desire to stand up and to do it. Maybe some personality crisis in a past, resolved just recently? In my personal opinion, it would be better for a game moderator to play such role, so you would have a ace up your sleeve, since representative. Among that - sure. I've seen CR's office occupied just once or twice on this station
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Visegrad Canonization Application
KattenHatten replied to Kintsugi's topic in Lore Canonization Applications Archive
Maybe something special among their leaves, which save them from being struck by lightnings? Some special leaf composite, or maybe chemical solution, as to make it harder to ignite? Since lightnings are known to struck the highest point possible. It could make such trees an object of admiration for colonists, helping them to reinforce their homes from bad weather conditions. Maybe something to do with water compound or atmospheric mix, that makes rain unable to extinguish the fire? -
BYOND Key: Tabzee Character Names: Sybil Colombo Species you are applying to play: Skrell What colour do you plan on making your first alien character: RGB: 88-182-69 Have you read our lore section's page on this species?: BS12 and Aurora lore Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph format. One paragraph minimum per question. Why do you wish to play this specific race: It's been one of my most developed and chars on previous server. I don't want to loose an indepth char that's already been written. Identify what makes role-playing this species different than role-playing a Human: Close-up to human, but with it's own flaws and benefits. Deceptively conservative and able for an indepth study of topics, got longer lifespan than humans, which allows them to get better in a bigger variety of jobs, limiting mostly to departments rather than some specific branch. Got their own diet, their own.. understanding of situation, long-term thinkers. From banned psionic capabilities to own diet, special backstory and necessity to obtain multiple degrees over same field of study. The only thing they got in common is a shape of a body. And I doubt it will stay same as human body in a long run Character Name: Quumqooxrim Quumzaooxuq Please provide a short backstory for this character: An immigrant family child, born at Glorashi 3 (Akerliim), from very young age shown interest to a music. Having a decent "musical ear", dreamed about seeing her parents planet where they came from. It was a cold winter planet, on the edge of skrell space, a whole planet was an independent city-state, lush with trees and vegetation, with thin depth but wide oceans, where skrell live under the cork of ice to save up body heat, venturing outside just to collect some food and been able to pick up different tunes easily approximately from 12 years old. Followed by trend of culture, always showed a great interest to beats, notes and timbres, was enlisted to a musical colleague, where she's been looking through a Once in a time she happened to be with her family at a marketplace, where a band of Vaurca from nearby planet were playing their specific tunes. It was a queen's birthday, so there was concerts all over the galaxy, where every Vaurca chose their dire need to get as much of attention to the holiday as possible. So, she got tuned to a music and, while her parents turned back, ran after a band, sneaking on them and following whenever possible. It continued for almost a whole day, and the band were on route to their place of residence. It was already late in a day, when one of musicians noticed a pale green fluorescent sun-spot, sparked from a setting sun, as they've made their way around the corner. He hid behind the next corner, as his troupe continued their way, chatting and laughing. Soon, the thud of running could be heard just nearby, across the corner. As it got closer, musician had decided to jump out with a greeting manner wave, to meet his fans with an explosive greeting. The least he was expecting, it would be a child, barely reaching his torso in height.. Musician's mandible cut through a good portion of a child chest. On screams of horror and a wild cry, some onlookers started to gather around, chatting and discussing what could have happened, was it really an assault and what may just happen. One of the obervators had appeared to be a medical student, so he pinned the wound. Soon, other medical staff arrived, following by child's parents, who went through a whole festival, trying to find their dear. From the last looks of child to a musician, he's noticed a undisguised fear in black-stained eyes. Just a few moments later, child got placed on a hand-made stretcher and dragged into a crowd, following a look of one of his parents, which hadn't promised anything good. Weeks passed. Months.. A year.. Day after day, as she laid in a hospital bed, covered by blanket, she couldn't forget the vaurca's face. Amused and scared, she imagined staying him infront of her in her dreams. Each day he was there, just standing in fear, unable to move a single muscle. The only thing changed is the environment. In one such dreams, she's got brave and quietly came closer, to ask his name.. A deafening scream pierced her ears, splashing blood over his arms, waking her up off a daydream. She woke up on a medical bed. Head hurt from unbearable pain, with some music on radio playing on a background.. Turning out a radio, she noticed a paper on a coffee table nearby. "Dear Quu. I'm with your father had a conversation about what's happened on a festival. We've talked and decided that it would be better for you to leave musical school. We've been loyal enough to give you a chance to try anything you want, but we can't take such risks putting you in such danger. We will no longer pay for your studies in the school of music. You better to pick some kind of other speciality, and try yourself there. That is a final desigion and not to be discussed. With love, mom." She dropped back on the bed, watching into a ceiling. An opened letter from parents was falling to the hospital room floor, whirling softly and closed her eyes. A drops of inky black liquid dropped over a hospital pillow. After a few minutes, there was a knock on the door. After few years, nothing had changed much. She met some people at medical she was treated in. Became a friend and quite often visitor for local psychologist lady, eventually becoming a psychologist as well.. Took a degree in first aid administration as well as molecular biochemistry, which's been led by psychologist's husband. She was consulting some friends, worked as a nurse.. not without little accidents.. But she's never managed to drop a old, terribly familiar scene, visiting her over and over again.. He was always there, staying in a corner. Silently watching. Silently judging. Whenever she daydreamed, he always been there. Once in a time one of her colleagues passed her a letter. She immediately recognised writing, and familiar emblem signature of her family. "Dear Quu. You are getting older, and on your coming of age, we would like to give you a gift. Your father had pulled all of his strings. to be able to get you a place on prominent space facility. It's called Aurora, and it's a space based station, placed on an asteroid. It pains us to part with you, but this is the only way we can finally protect you from this terrible music. We demand you to not let down your family, and you'll never be getting back on Glorashi system. We've already asked, there should be no Vaurca on this station. Farewell, and let Glorsh spare you from their terrible fate. Your transfer to hiring agency on transfer station Odin is scheduled to a next week. Say goodbye to all friends you have while you still have time. We'll make all possible efforts for you to not meet them again soon. We're glad to have such daughter as you. Goodbye." Few days later, she took all her rather poor belongings. Took a few water bottles from a tourist shop and headed to an arriving shuttle. It was supposed to get her her to hiring centre at Odin, where a meeting by her father was scheduled. She hadn't had much fear, but it felt like empty inside.. A second before shuttle departure, she jumped out of shuttle doors, snatched a flute from hands of some distracted chump, and fled back, just the moment as shuttle doors were closing in. What do you like about this character?: An old character i've used to play. How would you rate your role-playing ability?: Bad under pressure, rarely in a hurry. I like long and calm rounds, without antags, where every action matters. Notes: Asked Caelphon for help with grammar.. Still being edited
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BYOND Key: Tabzee Character Names: Sybil Colombo Species you are applying to play: Skrell What colour do you plan on making your first alien character: Pale white Have you read our lore section's page on this species?: BS12 and Aurora lore Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph format. One paragraph minimum per question. Why do you wish to play this specific race: A personal interest in the matter. I've played a few times as skrell, and from my point of view, they're most suitable for heavy RP moments. Aurora specific skrell mechanics are a nice little bonus. Plus I like the looks of those Identify what makes role-playing this species different than role-playing a Human: Being, most of all, a scientific-orientated species, who are quite capable of understanding the matter aaand.. being able to covering a whole variety of topics, unless they're leaving the limits of branch activities. They can be not limited to specific job specialisation, being able to enlist to a variety of tasks, instead of just one. Promise to not abuse it too much though. For me, it's sole RP reasons Character Name: Volq Xi Please provide a short backstory for this character: Volq Xi, born almost half a century ago on the icy planet of Aliose. His birth isn't as natural as one would think - considering he was one of many made in a test tube by a variety of researchers on Aliose. His existence was essentially a successful experiment. Almost immediately after his hatching, Volq is introduced to a handful of his simblings - where they are watched and taught the essential basics of the Federation. The essential basics being that of the horrific history of the Federation, and the terrible actions done by Glorsh-Omega to the Skrell. This lead to his wary nature around Synthetics, actively avoiding them in his adulthood. Volq's childhood was essentially one of intensive regimes - where Volq and his tube-siblings were exposed to hundreds upon hundreds of tests in order to determine their intellectual abilities, and limitations. Volq became to develop Lu'Poxii with his siblings - where they'd often comment and criticize eachothers work, however, this lead to Volq deeply admiring those that are both direct, and honest with him. His education would be unique, in it being that he was taught Mechanical Engineering, assisting in his ability to craft contraptions that would help him in his education. Almost four decades of pure competition trained Volq to flourish when he left AUMS to explore opportunities outside of the Federation. Initially, he left the Federation to seek employment opportunities that coincided with an apprenticeship, but instead found himself enjoying the freedom of the Republic. Looking to continue his stay within the Republic, Volq began to seek a career with various Research Facilities within the Republic's influence - eventually being accepted as a Lab Assistant aboard the NSS Aurora. What do you like about this character?: A joined effort for whitelist application. Wide opportunities for further character development. Having a place to link other characters to his backstory. Never been good at scientific stuff, decent reason to try it How would you rate your role-playing ability?: As long as I'm not in a security department, I'm good. ? A little bit bad under pressure. A heavy RP lover, if there's an option for 10-hour extended rounds, I'm up for it. Unless I have to do something IRL-based, of course. Going to work, as an example. Usually a one who's been shouted at for asking questions like "how do you feel", "please give me your hand" "we have a surgeon available, would you like to go through it?".. *shout out already, Katten, this is a medical emergency! Get their ass over here!* © Notes: Thanks to Caelphon for help with adjusting some rough corners and grammar
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Atmospherics Upgrade: Gases, Pressure, Health, and EVA.
KattenHatten replied to LanceLynxx's topic in Archive
One more thing for newcomers to crack their head onto. Don't get me wrong, It's an ambitious idea, but it still needs to be polished and polished hard, before it would be worthwhile of all those lines of code. -
KattenIlluminatte - Alberyk - 2018-03-04 00:44:03
KattenHatten replied to KattenHatten's topic in Staff Complaints Archive
Close the complaint thread. If I'm really appear to be so unable to control myself under the adrenaline, it will be better for me to not to play as an AI or borgs anymore. I will look for my errors, and yes, even if alberyk was right on this case. I don't want this to escalate even more. -
KattenIlluminatte - Alberyk - 2018-03-04 00:44:03
KattenHatten replied to KattenHatten's topic in Staff Complaints Archive
Yes, I do agree, there is difference. Things got escalated at this point, and so it came to be. But there's no excuse to go confront security team in a middle of a full-scale cultist mutiny, even for an assistant, even if he did not got a role. Because on the other end, if he would appear to HAVE a role, it would not take too long for him to open a bag, look for a flash or emp paper or other corresponding device and beat a shit out of the security cyborg which did roll over to inspect, what the hell is happening there and why did the noise is the totally the same as some guy beating up someone with a glowing sword would be there. -
KattenIlluminatte - Alberyk - 2018-03-04 00:44:03
KattenHatten replied to KattenHatten's topic in Staff Complaints Archive
I've attacked someone with stunbaton. Combat borgs are beating up someone to death with powered hammers and shooting them with laser weaponry. To death, even the station crew. And the fact that there was three of us (combat cyborgs) and you messaged the one which did switched to secborg, it took you 3 seconds to halt me over and take a little bit of conversation, after I did slain one and attacked at least 3 not much less of a crewmembers. Their only difference was a grey robe and a glowing sword. I do personnally think there is difference how the security team should react, between green and red states of alarms. And this applies to a crew as well. What did managed to poor assistant to start beating up security cameras? Was it their free will? Did they do it on purpose? He did surely know about ERT arrival and all that crown scene going on among the station borders. He did seen the security staff running around with heavy equipment and geared up to their best. It was not just one sec guy, not two, not three. He did heared screams over the radio, he did heared screams over some dude yelling there's some guy hiding in cargo maintenance, and he definately was aware of the chucklehack going on right infront of robotics lab reception office. Combat cyborgs are protected by law sets as well, and they have to obey them just as well as the other module packs do. I don't know why it's not being paid much attention, but it seems like security cyborgs are not supposed to respond accordingly the station threat level, while combat module have a full right to clean out half of a station crew just because they're wearing some weird robes and holding some shining glowsticks in their hands. And yeah, he still did destroyed it. Sec camera was not moving at a glance look. Firstly I did heared this while being even in a medical hallway, It was like 3 or 4 hits and that guy did alredy tried to leave to the east side of hallway, with some crowbar in his hands or whatever he was holding. Of course it's not only me who's noticed a weird sounds, some medical dude did went to check things out with me as well. So, yes, i've harmbatoned him a couple times, cuffed him and let the medical team do their job in order. All because some baldie thought it would be a great idea to robust a couple of cameras with security unit being in a corridor right to the next door I do not know exactly why you muted me, either it was me being on the nerves, either it was you being bad in explaining stuff, you could always pm something like "katten, let's let it slide, I got a lot of to do, we'll discuss that later". And it would be no problem, I would gladly accept that proposal, but instead you did had nothing to do other than just mute my further admin-pm appeals. It's not the way it supposed to go, you're a smart man, you know your things. How the hell it managed to get that way -
KattenIlluminatte - Alberyk - 2018-03-04 00:44:03
KattenHatten replied to KattenHatten's topic in Staff Complaints Archive
All cyborg platforms did receive permission for lethal punishment for "hostile actions" from both security team and AI. How much would you count bashing a security camera a hostile action during a code red? I would personally do count a bit. -
BYOND Key: KattenIlluminatte Staff BYOND Key: alberyk Game ID: bTc-dsWv Reason for complaint: Uses "for no reason" submission to the words used to write a warning record. Rephrases each record so it might be understood however you want. Being non-following his own persuasion beliefs. Does not explain shit, why ever he thought this way and why it can't be the way another. Ain't listening to the word said to him. Got a strange understanding on how the cyborgs should work. Being totally unconvincing, rephrases each situation on however he like and sees it only from his own perspective and tries to convince player that he's point of view is the only right one, without any desire to listen to point of view the another one. Being insured, that under code red and cyborg override status, combat cyborgs might do whatever they want and kill as much as they would want to, while if someone will turn out unavailable to apply combat module once more (and before assaulted like 3 people in a row), if the player applies security module while code red and cyborg crisis override mode being still active over station, seeing a baldie beating down camera with a crowbar and harmbatoning shit out of him and passing his body to medical crew while he's being still alive - that's the reason to immediately receive warning complaint which does not include nor situation when it was happened, nor under which curcumstances it was been complete, nor a code red, nor a cyborg override, NOTHING. Instead, writing some shit like "beating up some guy for little to no reason" . Banning admin-pm's in a middle of a conversation and not even trying to explain WHAT EXACTLY appeared to call such a responce and why the hell being a security cyborg instead of combat one shall under the same curcumstances and situations, should be acted totally differently, having a full right to kill in one case and being unable to prevent further damage and teaching the baldie a lesson to not bust down cameras during code red - in another. Evidence/logs/etc: https://www.dropbox.com/s/q8z4k8gn80vunyi/bandicam%202018-03-04%2006-11-31-707.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/po22h0g46e4qn9b/log%202018-03-04%20%286%2011%20am%29.htm?dl=0 Additional remarks: the other one warning, I don't remember exactly what happened there, but I do remember that we're argued with him a lot too. #2 - Look for the attack log from Robert Lawbla on the camera yourself. The hits of a crowbar or whatever he did busted it down with, had been heard even from medical hallway
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Xion manufactoring group, quietly, controls most of the market for industrial equipment. Their portfolio includes mining exosuits, factory equipment, rugged positronic chassis, and other pieces of equipment vital to the function of the economy. Xion keeps its control of the market by leasing, not selling, their equipment, and through infamous and bloody patent protection lawsuits. Xion are noted to be a favorite contractor for engineering departments of many corporations, owing to their low cost and rugged design. During another exhibition of achievements of the cybernetics passing on Eremus at August 20, 2559, Xion Manufactoring Group was a center of the audience attention, providing a breakthrough in cybernetics production. IPC's novelty being named Theta for a honor of the beginning of human civilization on Earth. New IPC line project had included an improved synchronization technique between platforms, dynamic speech emulation regarding of a current enviromental situation, with an added internal components abrasion resistance and protection from rust, ability for platform modification even while completing any kind of tasks, customisable automatic synchronization with software update center and a pack of other not included in a list low-level innovations, mostly affecting the components placement for easier maintenance. The presentation model was not absolutely ready for working conditions in space, but was soon completed on an equal basis with the correction of a set of bugs which do present for the beginning of any development of responsible projects. Nanotrasen corporation, in their aspiration to save a superiority in the field of research technologies and research in particular, it was one of the first who had left the request for acquisition of a packet of new IPC. Soon, IPC's of a new sample were delivered to a row of Nanotrasen stations, including Aurora.
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BYOND Key: KattenIlluminatte Character Names: Yaroslav Ashblaught, Arienne Roberts, Myles Benett, Top Tier AI Shithead (specially designed character slot for being enlisted as AI&borg at the start of a round) Species you are applying to play: IPC industrial frame What color do you plan on making your first alien character (Dionaea & IPCs exempt): Have you read our lore section's page on this species?: https://wiki.aurorastation.org/index.php?title=IPC Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph format. One paragraph minimum per question Why do you wish to play this specific race: Got a quite long history of playing as an engineer and all kind of AI systems, I want to get access to an IPC's too Identify what makes role-playing this species different than role-playing a Human: It's a machine frame, with all the consequences leaks from up to it. It got a lot different manner of speech, it acts a lot different than a regular human would act, it's got different interests and way of thinking. It got different priority for things than humans do over some situations, Character Name: Theta Prime L-37 Please provide a short backstory for this character, approximately 2 paragraphs Xion manufactoring group quietly controls most of the market for industrial equipment. Their portfolio includes mining exosuits, factory equipment, rugged positronic chassis, and other pieces of equipment vital to the function of the economy. Xion keeps its control of the market by leasing, not selling, their equipment, and through infamous and bloody patent protection lawsuits. Xion are noted to be a favorite contractor for engineering departments of many corporations, owing to their low cost and rugged design. During another exhibition of achievements of the cybernetics passing on August 20, 2559 Xion Manufactoring Group was center of attention of all visitors of an action, having provided to general public break in cybernetics. IPC's novelty the called Theta in honor of the beginning of a civilization of the human line on Earth, differed in the improved synchronization technique between platforms, supported dynamic change of the supported systems of emulation of the speech in dependence about an environmental situation, the system of internal components protected from rust with support of modifications during work, automatic synchronization with центрм updates of software, and a set of other innovations regarding cybernetics. The presentation model was not absolutely ready to difficult working conditions in space conditions, but was soon completed on an equal basis with the correction of a set of bugs which is present for the beginning of development of any responsible projects. Nanotrasen corporation, aiming to save a superiority in the field of research technologies and a research in particular, I was one of the first who left the request for acquisition of a packet of new IPC. Soon, IPC of a new sample were delivered on a row of Nanotrasen stations , including Aurora. What do you like about this character? IPC's have no fear, pain or human-like desires, which allows player to act more freely for his role-play actions. How would you rate your role-playing ability? 9/10. But not native to english language. Notes: A re-opened application based on https://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=8747
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[Accepted] Calion's HOS App
KattenHatten replied to calion12's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
More HoS for the god of HoS +1 -
BYOND Key: KattenIlluminatte Character Names: Yaroslav Ashblaught, Arienne Roberts, Myles Benett, Top Tier AI Shithead (specially designed character slot for being enlisted as AI&borg at the start of a round) Species you are applying to play: IPC baseline frame, IPC industrial frame What color do you plan on making your first alien character (Dionaea & IPCs exempt): Have you read our lore section's page on this species?: Yes I did Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph format. One paragraph minimum per question Why do you wish to play this specific race: Got a quite long history of playing as an engineer and all kind of AI systems, I want to get access to an IPC's too Identify what makes role-playing this species different than role-playing a Human: Firstly, being a machine frame, with all the consequences leaks from up to it Character Name: Theta Prime L-37-1 Theta Prime L-37-2 Theta Prime L-37-3 Theta Prime L-37-4 Theta Prime L-37-5 Theta Prime L-37-5, Theta Prime L-37-6, Theta Prime L-37-8, Theta Prime L-37-9, Theta Prime L-37-10 Please provide a short backstory for this character, approximately 2 paragraphs By a desire of Aurora station high-ranked officers to replace all-demanding pesky humans by a full 24/7 work timetable machinery, an order for a pack of brand new IPC frames was sent to Xion Manufactoring Group. Upon the order was completed, IPC's of 37th production line were enlisted as a property of Aurora station. What do you like about this character? Being multi-roled, can be assigned to most of the station departments without a knowledge penalty. IPC's have no fear, pain or human-like desires, which allows player to act more freely for his role-play actions. How would you rate your role-playing ability? Far more than decent, but suffering from english being in language group different than mine, which should be resolved by interacting as a machine unit, which is kind of more simpler on my thought Notes:
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BYOND Key: KattenIlluminatte Character Names: Edwin Adissson, Ricardo Ramirez, Top Tier AI shithead (AI&borgs only), Yaroslav Ashblaught Species you are applying to play: Dionaea What color do you plan on making your first alien character (Dionaea & IPCs exempt): Have you read our lore section's page on this species?: Got a quick look through it. Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph format. One paragraph minimum per question Why do you wish to play this specific race: Tip of the round: If you're having trouble as an antagonist, consider a Dionaea whitelist. © Aurora the Station, 04.08.2017 Identify what makes role-playing this species different than role-playing a Human: Slow as shit and looking for light. I hate when lights are busted. Character Name: random, changing from death to death Please provide a short backstory for this character, approximately 2 paragraphs A small group of nymphs adopted their name the instant they broke from the shell in their collective decision to explore and learn - not unlike what other Dionae had done in the slightest. Their name was chosen because it made sense at the time as they stowed themselves away during a cargo vessel's stop at the system's renowned shipyard, when they were in such a 'hurry' to get on-board that they actually fell down the ladders so that they could more quickly hide themselves away in a cargo compartment, lest they get spotted and kicked off. The plan worked and group found itself in a IPC's chartered cargo vessel. Upon reaching the destination, the dimly-lit cargo compartment had resulted in a malnurtured state and a lethargic, sickly disposition. The crew, thankfully, was less concerned about the stowaway and more concerned that it looked like it was about to die, and so they brought it out into the well-lit landing bay at a central supply port where shipping came and went at all hours. It just so happened that Syndicate, always on the hunt for cheap labor, had ships on the hub and had a desire for skilled assassins that would work under such conditions. But soon, nymphs were sold by IPC's to one of the NT stations, and were holded there for a cheap working force for a few years. (stolen from https://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=8645) What do you like about this character? Idk. Slow as hell. How would you rate your role-playing ability? Good as a IPC's, cyborgs and AI's, mediocre for everything else Notes:
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[Accepted] Incog's IPC Application
KattenHatten replied to incognitojesus's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
Lots of text, well organised and served. "This question is always difficult, and I can never come up with an answer."- is kinda kinky, on my mind.