hivefleetchicken

Right so I'm gonna' have to type this one up quick since I've got 30 seconds of battery left on my laptop. It's just a fucking video game. Your characters are not real. Any level of their stuttering bullshit that I say I hate and would murder - it doesn't exist. All of your characters are fiction, and so is the hate they endure. It's not even about fucking narrative these days, it's a competitive video game. None of this matters, your waifu will never actually be real, and there is no material threat from someone who tells you over the internet that your space princess doesn't deserve to live. That's literally all you need to remember when diving into this. EDIT: Holy moly dude you're not creating a niche for yourself you're literally fitting into the inflated cliche of the worst fucking debaucherous waifus to be created nothing about them is "unique" or "an attempt to avoid being bland" it's all just you trying to make something that's attractive being honest with yourself is constructive, so I'm being honest for you

errr where the fuck did all the posts go

Absolutely. However most of this is something that's always been around, even when I was a new player two years ago. It's just something you have to get used to. That shouldn't be hard if you enjoy the server so much that you'll sustain sarcastic ball busting at this intensity just to play here. Fighting tastefully is only a virtue when the enemy has such. The degeneracy knows no bounds.

We can't save them all.

I have to admit, I'm mostly serious when I say lesbay characters are trash. Your real life is a totally valid thing and you can be who you want to be in it, but to create characters on a game that I play and having them be as (no offense to the players) cancerous as a lot of these lesbay characters are and demand that everyone has an obligation to hug you for your trashy characters is ridiculous. People can call their blushing stuttering rebel without a cause ex-military 17 year old nurses with white hair and japanese names ANYTHING they want. But I know them for what they truly are, and that's usually ERP bait, attention bait, or some other form of perverse degenerate gratification. It doesn't belong on Aurora, period.

Right, the bar was actually completely weed free if I remember correctly. Even if the bar had weeds in it, the diona wasn't in any harm since the plants couldn't hurt Diona. I did communicate with the RD when buckling him to the chair, and I didn't take every single item they had, just their backpack and ID. Everything else was kept on the RD or on the floor next to him, within arm's reach.

Would you use any of the following terms to describe your character? Shy Awkward Rebel Pacifist Orphan Lesbian Experimental Busty Lusty Colorful Beautiful Stuttering Quiet Irregular

I'm gonna' have to deny this due to the applicant no longer playing SS13. Locking and Archiving.

What about Liberation army rebels? They have military training as well.

I really wish he would have (no offense) used his head before doing so, and I believe I urged him to multiple times in PMs to possibly take a step back and not act instantly on the full brunt of claims without evidence. Unfortunately he did not listen. We've already established that no evidence was provided. I don't know what the fuck is going on anymore. Unfortunately both of these statements don't do much for me. I've already stated how what was told to the other staff members at the time totally warranted a ban. But what was told to the staff members was untrue. So, once again, no duh, of course they'd support him. You think this warning is justified, after all we've discussed? THIS here is a good description of what happened? Self righteous justice? Have you not read that I was going in to rescue Sunny? If I wanted to exact justice, I would have harmed the diona, handed them to security, or done something. Instead, I viewed it was an act of defense to lock the diona up so he couldn't harm anyone else. It wasn't for revenge, it was to keep others safe. The difference in those two explanations is small to detect but it means a lot. And I've already explained this. Being there to catch criminals? Security was dead. All we had was a skrell interim sec guy, and he was running around like a chicken without its head. The round had turned into a free for all. There were no departmental boundaries or real efforts to keep station society maintained. It was mayhem. Uh oh. I didn't hold you hostage, or kidnap you, LR. I dragged you down a hall and placed you in the open while buckled to a chair. That's it. Anyone could unbuckle you if they wanted. You were not kidnapped, please stop trying to use this term. Didn't happen. Except you do. As stated a hundred times in this complaint, everyone else had contraband weapons. So you do allow people to build them, and even distribute them en masse. Didn't happen - why are you even saying this shit? You're a diona. No harm would come to you from radium, from breaches, or from ANY of the things currently killing the crew. Admit it. You were completely safe, just slightly inconvenienced. Literally every single one of those things you stated doesn't hold up at all. The shuttle had docked by the time I left the bar. Not only that, but I didn't actually take you out of the round at all. All I did was buckle you to a chair and leave you. That's a four minute sentence to sit still. You were not taken out of the round. From a meta standpoint, as well, if the round was still going, I would have taken more time with this whole kidnapping thing you say I did. Even if by me cuffing you to a chair, you were instantly gibbed, the next round came along less than minutes later. ICly, the shuttle was docking, and my character didn't want a murderer on the shuttle. Neither did the other people who cheered when the RD was announced to be "kidnapped".

I'd like to ask, did you state over the radio at any point that you needed someone to help you/rescue you from science? More importantly, did you include that you needed help in your radio message BECAUSE the RD was directly/indirectly about to cause your death in his inaction? One of the claims against me is that I was the only person with the idea that the RD was a bad guy. If you voiced, however, that you agreed the RD was/seemed-like/might-have-possible-been-a bad guy over the radio that round, then it proves I wasn't the only one.

I already tried to say it was common knowledge, and I was shut down by like five people at the time lmao

I seriously want to stress that you should never have jumped the warning gun on this, since you took a bunch of falsified testimonies and combined them into a fake warning, and now look at what we both have to deal with. No muy bueno. "No valid explanation", you say, aside from the valid explanation of how the guy was a murderer and destroyed the station. Except I actually had an explanation as you state five seconds later. There was a station wide lack of air, deadly vines everywhere, and (unofficial tally of) upwards of 8 crew deaths. If you think I'm not going to use my limited survival skills as a rebel kitty cat and make a little improvised slingshot in order to escort my best friend out of a nasty pickle... You don't have a very good grasp on what a majority of the playerbase would do, then. I fail to see how this also isn't a good point. If the rest of the crew had weapons, why did you specifically punish me for it? Because I just happened to handcuff someone whilst holding one? Research did not distribute all of the improvised weapons, unless you can have the logs to back up that every single flamethrower that round was made by them. I'm sorry, dude, but I'm really done with taking your word on things after this. I don't know how research would distribute weapons as you said, anyways, since science was under lockdown for t he entire situation. Everyone was trapped in there. How they magically handed flamethrowers to people on the other side of blast doors vexes me. More of the false assumptions; I even explained to you in PMs that I thought the plant PODS (not the vines but the things shooting vines out) were simple mobs and not effects or objects, and could be killed with any weapons. Plus, why would my character know any of this? Right. As of 5:45pm PST, the warning has not changed. I don't like how you told me in PMs that the RD had literally nothing to do with the situation at all. As you later admit in this post, he did in fact cause "five deaths" in order to contain the vines. Sure, it doesn't make him the round antagonist, but it proves he did in fact have involvement in this. I want to talk about this because this is the main point of what I'm going on here. You're completely backwards in this. You don't get to punish me halfway for things that have not been proven, and promise to fully carry through with punishments WHEN (not if) you have the proper evidence. Last night you warned me off of something that didn't happen in the slightest, as we've learned, and told me that you "WILL find the logs", as though it was indisputably so; that I REALLY WAS LYING TO YOUR FACE, and so when you did, you would ban me for two weeks. Read the logs, you said nothing about "Well, sure, hive, let me fetch the logs, and see if this is true". You said in all caps that you WOULD find the logs and I'd be tried. You didn't. Even. Hear me out. Another point where you lied to me in PMs. If I recall correctly, you directly told me the RD has ZERO to do with literally any of the events. " to Killerhurtz: I literally sat in cargo while this guy did nothing but unleash vines and get guys sucked into breaches, so I finally came up to him, cable tied him, threw his powergamey gear into disposals and cuffed him to a chair far away from departures. [Moderator PM] Killerhurtz: That's too bad, because he had nothing to do with it anyway." It seems he had a lot to do with that second part according to your word last night. I don't know why you're changing the story now. I kept the RDs headset on until he stated "HELP HELP CARGO TECH KIDNAPPING" or something over the radios. No one called for him to be rescued - quite on the contrary, actually. Players did in fact cheer me on (although it was less of them cheering ME on and just saying "Glad the RD is cuffed and not coming on the shuttle, that guy destroyed the ship" You BOTH need to stop lying to me and others, and check the logs before coming up with the facts you two keep coming out with. Saying "I don't remember this happening" is, in admin language, "this didn't happen but I'm not fully invested in proving it". Stop lying to me, please. I'd like this warning removed, and that's all. I don't want any punishment to come to the staff who (sorry to say it but it's true) lied about what happened, and carried out an extremely unprofessional investigation which consisted of nothing but their (false :L) word against my (not at all considered by said admins) word. But since it all went so ridiculously I really can't sit with what this warning has meant. The other staff on the server at the time of the warning, which you earlier used as an alibi in which you said they all agreed with you, were lied to directly. No duh they would support you, the claims against me were ones even I would support a ban on. I want to drop this as much as anyone else, but I'm not going to so long as this warning stays.

Sunny Daise is an important one, Killerhurtz said there were multiple witnesses saying they saw me flush the RD, even though it was just me and the RD.

Here you go again, stating I "charged" directly for you and you only. I actually went in with engineering and medical to save people, as I stated above, and we burned our way into escape and research (which were both clogged with weeds) with emitters and flamethrowers, and you happened to be there with a golem and loose slimes running around. I didn't run specifically after you, it was a crew-wide rescue mission to save people (from you) and you were the bad guy in it.

Let me stop you here, because you've already jumped to a false conclusion. In order for me to have ganked you, I would have run up behind you, point blanked you in the head with a crossbow, and then punched you to death without saying anything, and throwing you out of an airlock. I wasn't even a "fast tajaran" (whatever that means) because I was wearing EVA gear since "someone" vented all of science. If you think handcuffing someone without monologuing to them first (and then proceeding to explain to them that because of their alleged involvements in the killing of multiple crewmembers that they can't come on the shuttle, before leaving them completely unharmed) is gank in the most extreme form, as you say, you're very deeply and sadly mistaken. I told you exactly why I did what I did to you. There was absolutely no gank. At all. You had might as well start banning officers who cuff people without reading crewmembers their Miranda rights, since not talking before performing a handcuffing is, in your opinion, gank in the most extreme form. You could totally use this as a point if you had made any attempt in IC chat to explain this to me. Instead of doing so, you said "HEY THIS IS BREAKING RULES" in LOOC, and called for someone to stop me. I don't know what communications removing event you're talking about. If I remember correctly, when you called for help I was applauded by the crew. People literally said "You deserve it" and "look what you've done to the station", so if you think it was just me, you're once again mistaken. I was told over the radio by Sunny Daise, someone who was trapped in there at the time, that you did nothing to help her and left her to die. I didn't hear anyone say you rescued anyone else, too. Any attempt to explain this to me in IC chat might have helped. I didn't know "nothing about" the situation. I knew (or in this case HEARD) that you allegedly released the vines, put a lockdown on research, abandoned scientists to die, and let people get sucked into breaches caused by you. There were deadly vines literally everywhere. Arrivals, dorms, medical, science. They were everywhere. The presumption, as you can see in the logs, was not mine alone. Plenty of people thought it was you and thought you were a killer. This is a part I really don't get - the gank accusations. I did not gank you in the slightest. I didn't point or wave a weapon at you at all. I did not rush straight to your location to kill you. I went into research to save people, saw you standing around in an open airlock, and I cable tied you and dragged you away. One person told me to stop, and it was a sentient slime man. I told him "No." And then got to a safe distance and explained to both you and over the radio why I did it. The others congratulated me for keeping you off the shuttle. I also talked to you in IC chat three times before cuffing you to the chair, explaining how you were a murderer and you were not coming with us. You didn't say anything outside of LOOC. You're just plain lying now. :L I didn't disposal bin you. I threw away your bag of holding and ID because I didn't want you killing me or any other survivors with wacked out science gear. They didn't register as attack logs, and they got skipped over. I'm pretty sure I also explained in the complaint that I did in fact disposal them, so....? I forgot to add those in the heat of the moment, but they don't really matter anyway because it was just dialogue between me and him asking for the logs and not getting them, and then us talking about literally the same stuff I brought up on this complaint. I'm typing on my phone, so I can't add them, just the ones from the current round. If you want, feel free to grab them after you prove the logs of me flushing you. I would think he would, considering what was said to have happened. If I had actually attacked you with a crossbow, cuffed you, dragged you to a disposal bin at the docked shuttle, and flushed you without any words being said, you could have banned me on the spot. I would totally understand. Unfortunately, zero of the above stuff is true, and none of it has been proven. Yet I'm still being punished for it. I cuffed you peacefully. The shuttle had not docked at this moment in time. Everyone had weapons because there were fucking vines killing people all over the station. I explained to you why I did what I did. I flushed your bag of holding to keep you from killing me with the gear in it the second you were unbuckled. I did not flush you. I did not self-antag. I didn't hold you hostage at gunpoint, battle security over possession of you, or throw a single punch OR fire a single shot. No harm came to anyone at all. To try to warn me for this is like warning an assistant for pushing someone they heard was murdering people in dorms.

BYOND Key: Hivefleetchicken Staff BYOND Key: Killerhurtz Reason for complaint: I really don't know where to start with this, so I'll give my point of view. Part One: The round itself (and the mess it was) Part Two: Killerhurtz enters the tournament (guns blazing) Part Three: What no why Evidence/logs/etc: Here is the extent of my attack logs on the RD, where I supposedly attacked him with a crossbow and flushed him down disposals. Here is the part of my conversation with Killerhurtz from the bar scene all the way to the end of the shuttle ride: Additional remarks: Let it be known that I don't want to make this, but I can't abide this warning in the slightest. It's utterly backwards and a testament to how the staff think they're always right, and don't hear players out before sticking ridiculous claims at them with no evidence.

There's obviously a nuke in there. The nuke sprite is 100% obviously a nuke. Because of this, anyone in sec (even a cadet or detective) can instantly see the nuke. This makes it common knowledge, indisputably. I don't like this at all, since we shouldn't have a nuke on board in the first place, but as long as it's there and can be seen by anyone, there's not much anyone can say to say it isn't. Until this gets removed, the nuke is going to just have to be common knowledge or we're going to have to do five incident reports every single round because people will notice a bomb in the vault with giant "WARNING NUKE" signs on it every ten minutes. Simple.

Do you know if you were the only one who was punished?

Only one of them was sec. The rest of the list was: A cargo tech, a janitor, a scientist, and an engineer.

I play Dark Eldar not as pain harvesting torturefuckers but moreso as simple space pirates since I don't use haemonculi units because they're just too evil archangel station is a warhammer 40k ss13 server that's been going pretty crazy lately but luckily it's still somewhat playable I know a lot of warhammer shit and own like a million warhammer books (I recommend Nightbringer) etc.

This is third time I've typed this so I'm just gonna' make this quick. Personally I think it was silly that Frankie here was even banned in the first place for something like this since seemingly everyone else does it (sometimes lacking even a reason as logical as "WITNESS ME") in hostage situations and none of them ever face repercussions. But all of that aside, shaving one day off the ban seems pretty harmless. He's behaved really well in the lore chat in the past six days of his ban, so I think giving him the seventh day can't hurt.

When you have to solo ERT

So, basically, I just had a vampire round a few minutes back. I had a lot of great RP interactions with my first few kills, a lot of sewing doubt in between people in the brig, and a lot of killing. I even got caught at one point, and was surrounded by half the crew in the permabrig as they were all curious what I was. Eventually, though, I managed to split them up wide enough to take them out individually and silently (sparing the nice ones of course). This is where my doubt comes in, though. I got into the lobby and took a handcuffed scientist down the fore hall threatening to shoot anyone who got close. Instead of people clearing the way and running, every last one of the crew that I entered the vision of ran at me, shouted at me, or refused to leave. I had to kill or critically wound EVERY SINGLE PERSON that was on at the time (tally ended at about 5/6 in just the central hall) because not a SINGLE one of them was able to RP the fact that someone is dragging a hostage by the neck with a laser rifle in the other hand. Garnascus actually came on and brought it up in LOOC how not a single person was stopping to think before rushing and trying to fight me. They all just silently ran at me, swinging fists, firing tasers, throwing toolboxes, spamming stungloves. What can we do to make sure this doesn't happen anymore? It got a bit old having to just spam: "HEY BACK OFF" "IM WARNING YOU" "LAST WARNING" "IM NOT JOKING" "OKAY ONE LAST WARNING" "HEY" "3" "2" "1" And not getting a SINGLE word in return from any of the people I said this stanza to. I don't even think they responded until I did start shooting them. I'm not mad, just concerned we're getting too close to a 'winning is the only thing that matters' type of setup. And frankly... I can see the players who are influencing its increase.