Voyd2000

+1 Because everyone deserves a chance, other alien whitelist experience is always good, We need more catbutts, Open the gates!

Bit of a hardass QM! No profit to be made, but may be fun to set him lose on the crew as HoP. Give'em a gun let's see what happens! +1

I guess I mean what kind of impossible events?

I forgot to add in my last post that if we did indeed walk away from this learning something it is the one thing we can get out of this whole thing that Skull can now bug hunt that shit. So from what I understand you wanted to change random events? or add new events into round start vote? Or add new events to the random events? I'm curious.

One can hope this does not become the new "Cool Kid" thing to do, let's see what buttons I can mash to fuck everyone up, oh you voted for it silly players, teehee~. People need a bit more discipline, maybe not poke around new and strange shit in the code when none is around to fix these kinds of fuck-ups. This is nothing to talk about in game, it's not cool or funny and please none else try to "one up" this crap or the server may never come back from it.

I was here for this and I Methinks he (Garnascus) doesn't want to see people bitching about his poor decisions o.O However, this is a waste of time, I have noticed that nothing ever comes of these posts but long winded back and forth game of he said she said. But I do agree, putting the mute on things when the situation clearly is not properly diffused was a poor choice at the admin level. I still also insist you guys dial back on the whole recruitment drive of new staff and get a handle on your existing group and develop some standards of behavior from them when it comes to dealing with players in a given situation and more so how to properly conduct themselves, Because muting people and essentially telling them to shut up and or dismissing their grievances does not fix the issue or even come close to trying to rectify anything, It just makes matters worse.

What's the logic behind the no?

You are correct, I agree however being insistent doesn't necessarily mean being truthful Never claimed anything, I suggested something and asked a question to help support or refute my suggestion. I had just recently killed a mouse who told me to fuck off in LOOC before I did anything to provoke them, In fact it was the LOOC comment that made me go after them, Thus I felt maybe that player was out to get even with their hostility fresh in my mind. Feeling like it hides things is irrelevant and subjective, As you stated it's your job to get to the bottom of issues, not emotionally project how one feels about a situation. Facts are always better than feels. The only painting I have done is with the colors I was shown, by taking the stance of angry parent with the "Don't take that tone with me" serves as just that, a painted picture of an upset parent / teacher / Insert preferred authority figure, I never made claim that you are being emotional, you must have picked it up from your own words being quoted back. In fact the only time I used the word Emotional was in my defence from being accused of taking some kind of negative tone in order to hide things based on subjective feelings.

If you want people to hate you IC, do it IC with creative RP not in LOOC demanding people treat you and your race a certain way.

BYOND Key: Voyd2000 Staff BYOND Key: Killerhurtz Reason for complaint: Overly hostile, Implying I'm doing/being things I'm not Evidence/logs/etc: Moderator PM from-Killerhurtz: You've been opening doors for the medical team?(Accusing not asking) PM to-Killerhurtz: fixing windows they keep smashing, PM to-Killerhurtz: cleaning floors, doors do open. Moderator PM from-Killerhurtz: So you didn't purposefully assist a team of medics in getting to injured people? PM to-Killerhurtz: they smashed their way in, I was moving around to fix and clean. Moderator PM from-Killerhurtz: A player claims you distinctively did it though. Moderator PM from-Killerhurtz: Maybe you stopped in a door to chat OOC or something? I just want to know what happened to make sure PM to-Killerhurtz: they claim wrong, what's the players key? maybe it's meta hate or the mouse I killed. Moderator PM from-Killerhurtz: Don't take that tone on me. I'm not accusing you of anything. My job is to get the facts straight and solve situations. (inconsistent with open statement of accusation) Moderator PM from-Killerhurtz: I believe both of you and that's why I'm asking questions. PM to-Killerhurtz: tone? no tone, the med team got into the bridge by smashing and ducking into doors as i moved around, I'm not following crew commands. Moderator PM from-Killerhurtz: I said I believed you and I was about to close the case, but now you're getting awfully defensive. It's okay if you did, I just wanted to tell you that if you did you shouldn't because drones are supposed to play like crew was invisible. PM to-Killerhurtz: what do you mean? I'm not being anything o.O geez. Additional remarks: I don't like being painted in colors that I'm not, I was answering and telling my side/actions of the event. Not being defensive or anything emotional this staff was making me out to be. don't appreciate it one bit when I did nothing wrong.

Pulled the same crap of his own free will as a spider bot in the next round. quite the troll and rude as fuck.

BYOND Key: Voyd2000 Character name: Glitch Item name: Glitch Why is your character carrying said item to work? This borg looks like a drone. Item function(s): Functions like a drone but is lawed like a borg. Item description: This drone looks like any other drone but sports a large crack down the face of its blue ocular lens Item appearance: Looks like a station drone. Additional comments: Glitch looks like a drone and functions like a drone but is lawed like a borg and thus is able to interact with crew in its limited way with motions, chittering, boops and buzzing.

Yep, he was on said Tajara telling people around him in LOOC to hate Tajara. As for what he was saying in his words, I can't quote, however the time index I gave and a quick log review will find his words, and mine telling him not to demand people hate Tajara in looc and his reply that he does not plan to stop doing it.

BYOND Key: Voyd2000 Player Byond Key: Kazkin Staff involved: None. Reason for complaint: I'm sick of people trying to foster hate for Tajara in OOC and LOOC. This player was demanding other players hate Tajara in LOOC. Approximate Date/Time: Date: 12/10/215 Round time around 7:00pm EST.

The whole round was one big murder boner, even Kanza was being hunted by sec with lethals at one point. I she did nothing at all ICly that warranted being chased down by officers, maybe not taking cargo orders after the place was trashed, bombed and the CMO being cut up into bits and gutted by officers right in cargo. I honestly have no idea why officers tried to get her, with lethals even. I'd love some answers over what the hell sec was doing this round. was it one big meta play to catch the evil revs before anything can happen? I'd love to know!

The information I recall Tajaran worked in cargo as a miner. Tajaran's boss was QM. Tajara worked as miner for about 45mins without incident soon to bring back many samples that almost always make. robotics and science happy for the rest of the shift. QM ordered Tajaran to mine for glass. Tajara did not understand this request and asked if it could be ordered from cargo to save an old Tajara from more work. Cargo Tech (Maybe under order of QM I don't know) Says no, with explanation of "Saving points". Tajaran perturbed by this insists it be ordered. QM becomes angered by Tajara ignorance, demands material be collected. Tajaran perplexed by the process of mining for glass insists it be ordered from cargo. QM becomes angered by Tajara ignorance, starts using curse words and ultimatives (Do A or else B) Tajara gives up and returns to station outpost meets QM by the refiner with shovel in hand cursing up a storm about teaching Tajara how to do his job. Tajara (and player) not willing to RP with this person opts for option B over option A. (B being fired, A being demeaned for no reason) Tajara is fired, reports to HoP and has ID changed, Returns to Cargo lobby to see how many cargo points his job was worth, turns out to be 10 points for an order of glass. QM sees Tajara at the console and insists in a hostile manner that he "Get the fuck out of cargo" Tajara follows order and leaves, later he returns with a stool and sits outside the lobby in the hallway to stew at the absurdity of what just happened Tajara goes back into the lobby and starts to place about 15 orders for glass as a childish way of protest to losing his job over 10 points. QM catches Tajara and orders him to stop. Tajara stops making orders and starts to collect the papers and stack them neatly on the cargo desk QM makes threat of violence if Tajara touches the console again. Tajara makes counter threat should act of violence be carried out. QM eggs Tajara to touch the console again. (eg. I dare you to touch that console again.) Tajara makes another order for glass. Qm closes the distance and hits Tajara. Tajara hits (claws) back. Fight starts, Tajara falls down, QM escalates by use of air tank as Tajara lay on the ground. Tajara pops up from the ground in middle of weaponized beating (to my surprise) and keeps swinging till death msg pops up. Tajaran kills QM. actions eating his insides Tajara calls for help claiming to have been attacked. Admin PMs and I become wise to my mistakes.

I agree, it was meant to be a bluff, a thing that would make the human consider not acting on his own threat of violence should Adama not follow his order. I never made the threat until after the human player made their own threat to beat adama should he touch the console again. The human player made the first threat, I made my own with escalation in order to "scare" the human into not carrying out his threat in the event I called his bluff and touched the machine. Yea, I took it too far when I acted on my own bluff and I realized my mistake and poor choice in taking another player out of the game, I learned from this and it was my first incident in the 6 months I had been playing the race, When I realized that I may have broken lore and made the playspace even more toxic for my fellow Tajara I wanted to die in the gamespace, literally begging to die, to suffer the same fate I had dished out, to be taken out of the round just like the player whom I took out. Killing people is not a point of pride in my gameplay, I vote nuke round every round with no intent of being an antag, I play a char (Kanza) during these rounds that will never attack people and would sooner curl up in a ball and be beat to death before ever lashing out. She's a prop to be utilised by antags, regulars being able to rest assure that she will never suddenly go rambo, never be a hero and is not robust in any sense of the word, yea she loves guns and loves to hug them to her chest, but when it comes time to use them she would sooner drop it and cower and run away.

45 minutes of play doesn't really give you the right to outright kill people because they degraded you for being a Tajaran. Plus, what Meowy said, this doesn't really help the whole issue of Tajaran looking to kill people or resort to using claws (made for hunting through evolutionary process btw) on people. Again, this was not over words, It was when he started throwing punches and then using an air tank to beat me that things got out of hand, I don't attack people over words so let's not make it out like I did.

From what I see, Tajara hate is less about their actions ICly and more about an OOC idea that they are automatically associated with an OOC group of people called furries, I'm not one of these people I simply enjoy RP and the stories and inspiration that comes from the stories in game. There's a constant OOC hate and bleeds into the game due to, from what I see as a hate for "furries" and the actions other people have taken in the name of that community of people, such as DDOS attacks and devastating server grief. I feel that when someone picks to be a Tajara in game they are automatically labeled as one of these furry people OOCly and thus the hate and bias tends to bleed into the gamespace due to the actions of others that harm the server into an unplayable state. This puts existing Tajara who are furries into a perpetual state of defence as they are automatically grouped in with the negatives of what that label entails given the history of attacks on the server by a small group within that community.

I was reading the PMs between you and whomever handled the situation. I didn't witness the event outright but yeah. Given what I read and your statements here, I agree that your character had a right to defend himself and incapacitate the human character. However, killing them once they were down (which was the large portion of issue the staff member had with your actions) turned you from being agressive in a defensive manner, to being a murderously aggressive Taj, one that isn't helping the Tajaran aggression that everyone is talking about. It's perfectly fine to stand your ground, it's not cool to escalate that aggression any further. And talking with the admin handling it I came to understand my mistake and planned to adjust my actions in the future if such an event happened again. Also might I add the human started using an air tank to beat me, thus escalating from punching to weapons, granted Tajara have knives for hands and maybe he was just trying to even the fight out a little however going from fists to weapon was also a form of escalation on their behalf.

Backstory or not, your character apparently attacked somebody over an argument. And now you're attacking Tish, despite the fact that you only proved why people view Tajara as savages. If your only issue with this is Tish getting the job wrong (despite cargo tech and miner being in the same department) and him knowing nothing about your character or why you felt justified to kill somebody as a non-antag, then maybe you should take a step back and look at this in the big picture. I'm not attacking anyone, stop trying to make drama and color my my words with malicious intent, kthx. And no, it was not over words, had the event stayed as just words nothing would have happened, it escalated when the human player started throwing punches. I don't attack people over words so let's not claim I did.

Yea, This was my char, and said char had build up and a lore behind why it happened, The Tajara in question was Adama Al'Rafati, a long time abused and subjugated Tajara who worked as a an unpaid slave miner under the threat of pain and suffering if he failed to do his work, This build up was over the shift as I worked for about an hour gathering stuff only to have said QM start yelling about collecting sand for glass, This set the Tajara into a mode of fear and anger. Adama asked if cargo could order some, they said they wanted to save points and not order glass, so over a 10 point order the QM thought he would yell at and degrade the miner for not digging dirt and instead asking if cargo can order some for 10 points, this cost the Tajara is job as a miner as the QM continued his slander and race hate remarks. Adama went to order some glass after being fired and the QM and him got into a pissing match, they called each others bluff and the QM paid dearly, Adama got the snot beat out of him and by fluke won the fight and did exactly what he said would happen. essentially warning the player before hand that if they escalated to hitting, that it would not end well for them if Adama won the fight. Said Tajara felt so bad for what he had done that he begged medbay not to save him, yelling out his crimes and asking to be locked away or left for dead, eventually going to the brig and sitting in lock up under his own choice (Due to open doors in the brig) as it seemed officers did not take his confession seriously or had other things to be dealing with at the time. This was the first time in about 6 months of play that I have ever even raised a claw or fist to another player and I felt I had backstory, sufficient build up/escalation plus outright warning of deadly consequences. And in classic human style of not fearing pain or death they initiated the first blow on a Tajara they knew nothing about. What you seen was the end result of a buildup over about 45mins of play, Plus you also know nothing is said char and assume many things. I was booped by admins and explained my side of the story and why it happened. It also shows that despite your claim of paying close attention your assertion that the Tajara was a cargo tech is flat out wrong, He WAS a miner that got fired. Your claim of being a witness is flawed and inaccurate.

You CAN pick them up, both live and dead, for the dead ones you must drag it onto your char icon with a free hand.

As a cargo bum I agree sometimes you can go a whole shift with one or two orders and that's it, job done, When shit hits the fan others tend to step up and do the job for you. But I find my fun and most of it has to do with paperwork, or trying to guess what people want when they walk into the lobby. The job can be underutilized but making the crew have to use it more out of necessity seems like a bad idea, as often the job can go unstaffed, Cargo could be handled by a borg, The number of cargo techs + a QM can quickly turn into a game of too many cooks as the tasks required even with paperwork can be handled by one person doing the job role. In the end I don't think there is much you can do about said department other than find your own fun with it, I do have a suggestion for something crew should be able to order, a Piano kit, Have it come in bits, make an engineer build it and now the crew has a piano to play.

I did a-help but it was not in a context of a crying child to mom and dad screaming GRIF GRIF He hit me!, it was along the lines of "Can you make Kanza puke, I was just force fed brains by a chuckle fuck" so yes, I did a-help almost as soon as I noticed what had happened. However it was seeking an RP outcome, I got no reply to, or actions taken based on said ahelp(Kanza never puked) so let's put the "Never a-helped" to bed. as it even says in the report "Asked for RP outcome but got no reply"