Yonnimer Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 Ckey/BYOND Username: Yonnimer Position Being Applied For: (Species Maintainer, Wiki Maintainer, Lore Developer, Deputy Lore developer): Dionaea Lore Dev Past Experiences/Knowledge: I've been working as a Dionaea lore deputy for the past month or so. Examples of Past Work: https://wiki.aurorastation.org/index.php?title=Dionaea#Mechanics https://wiki.aurorastation.org/index.php?title=Dionaea_Citizenship Essay: The essay is a proposed rewrite of the first discovery of Dionaea by the skrell. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A4wbpyf0rsT5BUjMvgpUawz3QlNQcALKnzxr0KRGQ2A/edit?usp=sharing Additional Comments:
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 Glad to see your app. Big +1. Love your essay. I provided commentary on it and you responded well. Good at taking constructive criticism. +1
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) I do have a question and i figured out how to phrase it. Do you think diona should be treated as mystical entities or with a scientific bent? For an example, unathi lean heavily towards mysticism in the aesthetic. Cults, magic, spirits; the validity of all the magical elements of unathi are leaned on as is. There is a sense of mystery and wonder. The opposite end of that spectrum (to me) is Vaurca. All about Vaurca has scientific explanations and is grounded in facts and physical science even if it gets theoretical with scifi. Theres not anything thats mysterious or wonderous. In your document i suggested to you basically that the big diona gestalt uses rootsong to manipulate a wormhole; tuning it like an instrument to apply some importance on the language and the mystery of diona. Someone else took issue with this, calling it unrealistic and stuff. Not with this but in general, do you think diona can benefit from being on the mystical side of the spectrum or the scientific side? Another way of asking, How ARTSY do you want diona to be? Edited September 10, 2019 by Marlon Phoenix
Yonnimer Posted September 10, 2019 Author Posted September 10, 2019 I would want to lean on the "mysticism" side of things with Dionaea as they are a strange and mysterious species. Their origins, for instance, are a mystery to most other species. There are hints as to maybe where they come from, or how old, but nothing concrete. Although while saying this, I do not want it to ever be "magicy" mysticism in the sense that while something may seem magical, it would still be scientific in nature, although possibly highly advanced. While I do want to keep this mysteriousness with them, I do also want to be a bit more publicly open about their "background" lore with OOC knowledge. For instance, I want it to be oocly publicly known as to what happened to the Dionaea who left a few months ago based on the news article, although I would not want it to be known icly by non-Dionaea.
Snakebittenn Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 The conduct on your deputy application left a lot to be desired for me. What do you think are the largest issues with modern lore, and what's your gameplan to fix this? Just so we can have all your thoughts in one place.
Yonnimer Posted September 11, 2019 Author Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) Personally, I don't have too many issues with the current lore for Dionaea. Saying this though, I do wanna expand their lore with more details that can hopefully allow for more character ideas with the species. Minor thing, for the next couple of days I probably won't be responding much here. Been feeling the sick the past two days, don't know how long it'll last. EDIT: Deleted the second paragraph as it felt a bit rambling and badly worded, probably not the best combo of things to write while feeling sick. Edited September 11, 2019 by Yonnimer Deleted the second paragraph as it felt a bit rambling and badly worded, probably not the best combo of things to write while feeling sick.
Coalf Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Yonnimer said: The major issue with DIonaea currently however is the lack of players. Different people will say different reasons why they believe this, although personally I believe their lack of players is due to their lack of players. A player seeing the species and liking the idea of it will be encouraged to play that species. what Could you elaborate, do you mean like players don't play the species so other players don't play the species? Wouldn't be that the result of the lore/idea of it being un-interesting because there is not even that initial spark of interest from curious people on the server? Also do you ever plan on expanding on the idea of how Dionaea actually integrate into society, get doctorates and who like funs their colleges and stuff? That whole subject has been mostly avoided and as a result a lot of dionaea backstories end up with "And then he did a thing and was in NT because a reason". Which is really hard to from a command/security/medical perspective. Edited September 11, 2019 by Coalf
Yonnimer Posted September 11, 2019 Author Posted September 11, 2019 I deleted that paragraph. Felt a bit too rambly and badly worded on my part. Probably not the best to write something like that while feeling sick.
Yonnimer Posted September 11, 2019 Author Posted September 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Coalf said: Also do you ever plan on expanding on the idea of how Dionaea actually integrate into society, get doctorates and who like funs their colleges and stuff? That whole subject has been mostly avoided and as a result a lot of dionaea backstories end up with "And then he did a thing and was in NT because a reason". Which is really hard to from a command/security/medical perspective. I do have plans to rewrite the education blurb a bit on the wiki to include more information, like how education would swap between gestalts and some ways they could pay for their education. Although regarding them integrating into society, I haven't personally thought much about it. I don't think it has come up much with me. I do want to run polls with fellow lorestaff and Dionaea players to see what their issues are with Dionaea, and if this came up top, it would be something I would focus on fixing if it's disliked.
Mofo1995 Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 I've decided to accept this application. You have good long standing commitment to staffing on the server, and it seems to me that you're barking up exactly the right tree of what I'd like to see more of from Dionaea. While it garners some criticism for playing it a bit on the safe side, not being overly creative being the biggest I can think of, I love how the introduction of dionaea into skrell society isn't just a matter of fact *thing* anymore. Instead it sends shockwaves through skrell society for being the first alien race they've met. That's great! I always thought the way it was described before was really underwhelming. More importantly, expanding upon their integration into skrell society is phenomenal and has been criminally underexplored for years now. Just thinking about all the things a diona could do that a skrell couldn't makes my imagination run wild with how they might serve in the workforce in the federation, and the idea of the federation emphasizing a more dual-race society is a great idea for which I have been longing. I think you've got a lot of good ideas to really move this forward.
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