[Resolved] Unban request - Alfa1561

[Alfa1561]

BYOND Key: Alfa1561
Total Ban Length: Permanent
Banning staff member's Key: Alberyk
Reason of Ban: Banned from another SS13 server for allegedly trying to coerce a minor, which resulted in a ban from here.
Reason for Appeal: I have never attempted to coerce a minor. The ban which this refers to is from Polaris, where I was disliked mostly due to my personal views, and then banned from the discord with the DM from the banning moderator "Get bent, Nazi shibboleth." This ban was placed in 2017, when I MYSELF was a minor, which I can prove, so I don't know where this allegation has come from. I am perfectly willing to show staff in a private setting proof of my ID to prove this. The ban from Polaris I never appealed because it was clear I was not welcome there from the actions of that banning moderator. I do not know why suddenly that ban has been applied to me here.

Edited June 5, 2022 by Faris

[Alberyk]

Moved this to a staff complaint since you don't agree with the ban. I will reply this week still.

[Faris]

Posting that I'll be handling this. I'll wait for @Alberyk post before moving forward.

[Alberyk]

What happened is that we received reports from two people about alfa's ban. We checked with polaris staff, and after people involved in the incident spoke up, we decided to apply the ban, since he was both banned on bay and polaris for the same reason.

Due to this happening back at 2016, the only evidence we have currently is the testimony of people involved in it.

[Faris]

Can you elaborate some more on your history with Polaris and Bay? It’s a crucial point in all this based on what you allege. @Alfa1561

[Alfa1561]

I'd like to clarify that I was not originally banned from Bay over this matter, and instead have only been banned as of this month. Back when this situation happened, to my knowledge, the ban reason was reported to Bay staff but the staff at the time didn't ban me, presumably due to the lack of evidence beyond testimony. Given that the person who hosts/runs Polaris now hosts/runs Bay, its a bit of an unfair comparison to look at how I'm now banned from Bay as a reason to enforce the ban.

 

I had no issues on Bay and continued to play there without issue after the Polaris ban. In Polaris, I had moved there to see if I'd play it as a new server as I wasn't happy with the SEV Torch. I played on Polaris for a while, but came at odds with the community for my political views (expressed in their politics channel on discord) and as a result was eventually banned from the discord with the banning moderator messaging me to say "get bent, nazi shibboleth."

 

At the time, I was on holiday in Italy and so wasn't even aware of the server ban and its reason, and I'm not sure they were applied on the same day as the discord ban. It wasn't until I got home that I found out about it, and as best I recall, I was informed by someone that it was forwarded to Bay but Bay didn't take action.

As I stated in my initial message, I was a minor at the time this allegation was made against me, something I don't believe the accusers or banning staff were aware of. @Faris

Edited June 1, 2022 by Alfa1561

[Faris]

1 hour ago, Alfa1561 said:

banning moderator messaging me to say "get bent, nazi shibboleth."

I’d appreciate log proof of this and anything else you feel is relevant.

[Alfa1561]

41 minutes ago, Faris said:

I’d appreciate log proof of this and anything else you feel is relevant.

Just as the other side of this says, it's been six years, I don't have logs of this anymore. I don't even recall the banning moderator. I can provide my own witnesses to the events, and if you'd care to message me in private I can show my Drivers License to prove I was a minor, as well as proof of recently passed police background checks involving my employment and volunteering history.

[Faris]

Unless I’ve missed, it seems like you don’t know where the ban was coming from on Polaris. Is this completely fabricated or a misunderstanding? 

[Alfa1561]

25 minutes ago, Faris said:

Unless I’ve missed, it seems like you don’t know where the ban was coming from on Polaris. Is this completely fabricated or a misunderstanding? 

A bit of both. I was never told why the ban was put in place, but I've an idea of where it came from, and yes, it was at worst fabricated, at best very selectively reported. I was never once questioned or even spoken to about the ban.

[Alfa1561]

3 hours ago, Faris said:

I’d appreciate log proof of this and anything else you feel is relevant.

I managed to happen across an ancient screenshot of it. I had the wording wrong, but here's the extent of what I received before the ban.

[Faris]

I'll see about resolving this during the weekend. I may post further in the meantime.

[Faris]

After an expansive investigation, @Melariara and I will be upholding the ban. 

Details sent in a private message.

[Faris]

As an addendum, we confirm that the player was a minor at the time of the events. The ban being upheld is for other reasons that despite the time gap and difficulty in locating evidence, we have had to make a judgement call.