Staff Complaint - Roostercat#0

[Zelmana]

BYOND Key: Zelmana
Staff BYOND Key: roostercat
Game ID: Discord, Case ID 359, 360
Reason for complaint: Unreasonable Escalation, No attempts at De-escalation, Punitive Length/Severity

At 6:30a EST an admin made an announcement that an individual was leaving staff.
This is due to the player quitting after receiving a strike related to ERP.
I had made a comment that was basically the following:

"
>Advertise ERP Server
>Get striked
>Quit the server
<gif of guy smoking cigarette solemnly>"

I was striked for this by roostercat, with the below reason. 

"Making comments about another player quitting after linking an ERP server. While what they did was against the rules, it doesn't mean its suddenly acceptable to post snipe [sic] comments about them."

While I am aware rule 1 "Don't be a dick" is a completely arbitrary rule, I wasn't thinking what I did was worthy of being striked at all, especially without any confrontation or discussion. There was 0 attempts to address the issue beyond just striking.

After this strike, I made a remark something like

"Strike reasons be like "I don't like what you said".

I was instantly banned for the reason of "complaining" and "not acting like an adult".

While I was fine taking the strike for something that I disagree with, "don't be a dick", of which there is a tremendous amount of leeway for certain players or topics, and it is ununiformly enforced, I was not going to submit a complaint because I thought the issue was trivial. So trivial that I made a remark about it, jokingly. For joking about my own punishment I then got a perma ban.

I think this is extremely punitive and made no attempts to resolve any problem, if there was one. If anything, this has caused conflict and unneeded strife, and at worst, censorship. Which is totally in the staff's right to do, mind you. It just doesn't seem cool to end my decades long membership in this community over such a thing.

Evidence/logs/etc:

Additional remarks: None

[Zelmana]

Especially since this is my second permaban, meaning that this is likely unappealable.

I said a simple joke, after having a few years of very good record since my behavior when I was younger/since my last permaban.
Like I said above, I think this was given out waaaayy too casually.

[Roostercat]

8 minutes ago, Zelmana said:

Especially since this is my second permaban, meaning that this is likely unappealable.
 

This is a discord ban. Not a community ban. Like I said in the ban reason, you can make an appeal. 

Furthermore, I do not think it takes much effort to not be a dick. It isn't that arbitrary. You made a snipe at another player, and got striked for it. You then mocked the strike, and I applied a perma ban because that's basically just breaking the rule twice and telling me that it's a matter of time before you just do the same thing again. You also have a pretty bad history of saying off the cuff stuff on discord and then getting mad when your actions do, in fact, have consequences. That said, I completely stand by the ban.

 

 

14 minutes ago, Zelmana said:

I think this is extremely punitive and made no attempts to resolve any problem, if there was one. If anything, this has caused conflict and unneeded strife, and at worst, censorship. Which is totally in the staff's right to do, mind you. It just doesn't seem cool to end my decades long membership in this community over such a thing.

 

Nobody told you to make a snipe, nobody told you to complain about the strike after. You are quite literally the person causing conflict and unneeded strife, and no matter how you spin it, enforcing the most simple rule we have is not censorship. 

[Zelmana]

What I said was as much "don't be a dick" rule-breaking as your ban reason of "when you act like an adult". Both are casual, asinine statements.

[Zelmana]

Which, even if I cannot express without some frustration and perhaps badly wording some of my appeal to later be used against me, I still feel that it was a gross overreaction on your part.

[Zelmana]

bump

[MattAtlas]

I don't think there's much to say here man. The ban looks pretty valid to me. If we strike you and you openly make fun of the motivations we strike you for, you get to eat a ban at that point.

[MattAtlas]

Locking and archiving.