Jim Calhoun's Casual Security Uniform

[Redfield5]

BYOND Key: Redfield5.

Character name: Jim Calhoun.

Item name: Casual Security Uniform.

Why is your character carrying said item to work? It's a variant of the standard security uniform, much more common and practical.

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Item function(s): Clothing/Jumpsuit.

Item description: A polo shirt and a pair of cargo pants.

Item appearance: A shirt and pants comprise the uniform. The shirt is a black, short-sleeved polo shirt with a gold badge on the left breast (from the wearer's perspective). The trousers connected to the item would be a pair of navy-blue cargo pants.

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Additional comments:

[coolbc2000]

The thing is (Which is why am only typing here) is that the uniform's are supposed to protect the user from damage.

I got fucked in the ass because I had a suit on before. Just point it out ^^

Good luck.

[Owen]

I don't know, this is something that most of my characters wouldn't allow. Maybe for like CSI or Detective. But if you are wearing this as an Officer or Warden I would tell you to get into uniform.

[Redfield5]

I don't know, this is something that most of my characters wouldn't allow. Maybe for like CSI or Detective. But if you are wearing this as an Officer or Warden I would tell you to get into uniform.

 

The problem is...it is a uniform! Hahaha!

But seriously, polos and cargos are starting to come into style with law enforcement. It's much more practical than the traditional uniform, especially with the choking hazard removed.

[Dreamix]

Definition of an uniform:

"Uniforms are special clothes to show that a group of people belong together. The group of people will all be dressed in the same way ("uni" means "one" so the word means "one form")."

If only Calhoun will be wearing it, it will no longer be a security uniform.

Also, quoting replies to this topic:

"I think it'd be dependent on your role. If you're in a role where you need to be visually identifiable, such as a sec officer, captain, etcetera, then they'd be more strict."

"Security jumpsuits will protect better from brute damage and are made of heavy duty fabric to withstand combat"

"For staffers like medical, security, and engineering, there has to be a way to tell who you are at a glance. Security officers should have some sort of blue on them"

[Redfield5]

Definition of an uniform:

"Uniforms are special clothes to show that a group of people belong together. The group of people will all be dressed in the same way ("uni" means "one" so the word means "one form")."

If only Calhoun will be wearing it, it will no longer be a security uniform.

Also, quoting replies to this topic:

"I think it'd be dependent on your role. If you're in a role where you need to be visually identifiable, such as a sec officer, captain, etcetera, then they'd be more strict."

"Security jumpsuits will protect better from brute damage and are made of heavy duty fabric to withstand combat"

"For staffers like medical, security, and engineering, there has to be a way to tell who you are at a glance. Security officers should have some sort of blue on them"

 

During my time in military school, we had many different uniforms that we wore, and not everyone wore the same uniform as everyone else on any given day. For example, I might have to wear my ACUs one day, whilst someone else is wearing their Class B, or even wearing their ACUs but with a different blouse, like a short Eisenhower-style ACU blouse instead of the standard one. Law enforcement agencies do the same thing; for example, in the city of Lexington, North Carolina, you may have two patrol officers wearing different uniforms, be it the standard black button-up that's been in service since the 90s, or the new black and blue polo with POLICE on the back in big letters. Jim's not wearing casual clothes; he's wearing a security polo with a gold badge to represent his office, however I'm open to putting SECURITY on the back of the shirt in bold white letters. Even with that concession, it's covered up by his gear, gear of which no crew outside of Security/Command would be wearing.

What about the officers who wear black jumpsuits, huh? I've seen more than a few officers wearing black jumpsuits and I have seen no uproar on the forums - nor from the department itself - over their apparent lack of conformity with the Security image. I can understand the black jumpsuits, but it's not like I'm wearing a pink jumpsuit as Security.

 

"For staffers like medical, security, and engineering, there has to be a way to tell who you are at a glance. Security officers should have some sort of blue on them"

 

Is navy blue no longer a shade of blue? Are our trousers on our standard uniforms not in fact blue? How different are a pair of blue cargo pants from the standard trousers, aside from the addition of vestigial cargo pockets?

If it's such a problem, why not include it as an alternative uniform for Security?

[Jennalele]

Black jumpsuits were murdered by bluesec. I weep for it, because it was the only jumpsuit that looked particularly nice on Reanne as an officer.

[Hackie]

Hey'a sport.

Sure, sure you can justify the outfit, it makes sense. But what does it represent as a role playing opportunity? It's certainly, dare I say it, not very special. It's just some plain old slacks. If you're at the watercooler not much really to present there. And, it's just so plain it doesn't add to Jim Calhoun as a character. It doesn't add some jazz to his image. For example let's look at Jaylor Rameau. He has a suspicious turtleneck, and he commonly adds to that image, he has an odd guttural accent that hooks players in and encourages them to check records and such! Ah, he's a pirate. Now, I might not be getting the proper point across but I feel that Jim would find more value as a character in a custom item that involves his military background, or something along that line.

[Redfield5]

Hey'a sport.

Sure, sure you can justify the outfit, it makes sense. But what does it represent as a role playing opportunity? It's certainly, dare I say it, not very special. It's just some plain old slacks. If you're at the watercooler not much really to present there. And, it's just so plain it doesn't add to Jim Calhoun as a character. It doesn't add some jazz to his image. For example let's look at Jaylor Rameau. He has a suspicious turtleneck, and he commonly adds to that image, he has an odd guttural accent that hooks players in and encourages them to check records and such! Ah, he's a pirate. Now, I might not be getting the proper point across but I feel that Jim would find more value as a character in a custom item that involves his military background, or something along that line.

 

You forgot about the polo, and I could care less about what a stroke-ridden pirate/QM wears. So what if he wears a turtleneck; I'm not going to profile someone based on a turtleneck. Why should it be some monumental plot device that somehow adds to his character? You call it boring, but Jim Calhoun calls it practical.

1. We don't have enough indicators to ascertain the two different training levels of Security; for example, I can't just look at someone and determine whether or not they're Level 1 or Level 2. Hell, I constantly see Cadets donning officer uniforms instead of their regulation Cadet wear, and I see officers doing vice-versa.

2. To be completely friggin' honest, I would rather the polo-and-cargo to be issued to all Level 2 officers and above, as a sign of distinction that these individuals have give a considerable amount of time and dedication to the ISC. Level 1s and Cadets would be able to identify these senior officers much easier. especially given that we don't have a rank system among the patrol detail. Yeah, it'd be complicated to implement, but I've got some ideas about how to implement this.

3. I can't find the words to describe my feelings on the current Security uniform. I guess that the tie on the standard duty uniform irks me, given that I was trained in BLET to understand that I could get choked out with it. I factor a lot of what I learned into Jim's character.

[Hackie]

Er, yeah I didn't get the right point across, my bad. Custom items are supposed to add to a character. If you have an issue with the current uniform and want an alternative, or would like to have certain experienced officers to receive special uniforms it'd belong more so in the Suggestions and Ideas board.

 

Be creative. Custom items are not about simply giving your character a unique look and to serve as visual showpieces. They can be, and should be more than that: something to tell a story, help tell a story, or help create/direct an experience.

[EvilBrage]

You forgot about the polo, and I could care less about what a stroke-ridden pirate/QM wears.

 

Great attitude, there.

What Hackie is trying to say is that your proposed custom item doesn't tell us anything about Calhoun, other than he likes polo shirts and cargo pants and has a grandiose self-delusion that he's in a military of some sort (which is not the case, but you as a player knew that, surely.) Far as identifying the various ranks, that's what the prominently displayed ID cards and PDA's are for. True, a custom item doesn't have to be of monumental sentimental value and whatnot, but this literally doesn't add anything. It's just "I want a different security uniform," which is definitely not what custom items are for, in my humble opinion.

[Redfield5]

You forgot about the polo, and I could care less about what a stroke-ridden pirate/QM wears.

 

Great attitude, there.

What Hackie is trying to say is that your proposed custom item doesn't tell us anything about Calhoun, other than he likes polo shirts and cargo pants and has a grandiose self-delusion that he's in a military of some sort (which is not the case, but you as a player knew that, surely.) Far as identifying the various ranks, that's what the prominently displayed ID cards and PDA's are for. True, a custom item doesn't have to be of monumental sentimental value and whatnot, but this literally doesn't add anything. It's just "I want a different security uniform," which is definitely not what custom items are for, in my humble opinion.

 

Relax, it's just a casual observation towards Jaylor. Hell, I had more or less accepted the fact that I wouldn't be getting this uniform, like back on Monday. However, if you're going to reignite this argument with a thinly-veiled insult because you're upset that I called Jaylor a mean name, then I might as well get involved once again.

On the subject of this "grandiose self-delusion" of militarism, maybe you should read into the character a bit deeper and explore who Jim Calhoun really is, besides a less-than-savory first encounter with him followed by the invalid IR that you filed (I'm sensing that you're still butt-hurt about Jim not getting penalized for spitting on Jaylor during a non-canon round; forgive me if this is an inaccurate assessment, but I doubt that you needed to explain something that's been explained by pretty much everyone else who has commented on this. A simple "this item doesn't fit as a custom item" suffices just fine without rudeness).

Contrary to popular belief, the officers and personnel aren't mere security guards. Their procedures, regulations, and other facets that comprise the organization put them more in-line with the classification of Company Police. Security guards primarily observe and report criminal activity in their zone of responsibility, and while they may detain someone, they are not empowered to charge people with crimes. The NSS Aurora isn't some storage unit facility that doesn't carry any significance; it's an important research facility carrying out sensitive work at times. I've never seen a conventional security guard detail equipped with a fully-functioning detention facility, or an armory with various lethal and non-lethal armaments or riot gear. I disagree with your dubious assertion that Jim feels as though he's in a military force, but the ISC isn't some sort of two-bit rent-a-cop agency.

 

He has a suspicious turtleneck, and he commonly adds to that image, he has an odd guttural accent that hooks players in and encourages them to check records and such! Ah, he's a pirate.

 

Talk all you want about "grandiose delusions," or just go back to your 19th Century whaling crew. Either way, I'm dropping this argument because there's no need for us to get into - or continue - a childish argument in which we hurtle insults at one another.

[TishinaStalker]

Application denied. If you want a standard uniform variation, then submit it as a code suggestion. If I accept this item, then I have to give all the L2 security officers one too, and I ain't about to do that.