Ames De La Fontaine! What do you think do you think of him?

[Rusty Shackleford]

That... is rude, and this is a honest character I am making.

I play with him in game, you can see him in the flesh (or the pixel)

 

You got banned for having a character where you tried justifying her beating the shit out of random people every single round, and then you come back on the promise of making a normal character, and produce this monstrosity instead. No doubt in my mind that you're just trolling.

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

That being said, if I make his background more fitting can I make him a VIP character?

 

yes, only as a visitor.

if the admins don't mind because VIP's with the ability to possibly impact the round need their knowledge and/or consent. We learned this after I made a VIP impact the round without letting admins know and Dea wagged a finger.

 

Elaborate please.

 

A prince from a foreign country requires special consideration while on the station. Him joining creates a mini-event because the station needs to take special consideration with him. Because he's a VIP and it would be unfortunate for NT if he got murdered or thrown in the brig and beaten by an edgy Tajaran officer.

[Owen]

Meta, I will just put this out there. I, and I am sure many others have offered to help create a better background for a character. Some even offered to help with your previous character. You need to take a step back and look to see the type of character you made. It is completely unrealistic as Jackboot said. I am serious about this, if you are willing to fix what was wrong, I will work with you on getting a better character that isn't some sort of super being.

It also isn't just me that could help creating a character with a normal backstory and some basic set of records. I know for a fact that there are others willing to help with this. I have seen them offer publicly over the forum posts where you were asking for opinions on Seon. This will not keep going on in an endless cycle. I am putting that out there now.

[MetaphysicalPersona]

Actually this is Alberyk fault, I created a man named Ames Strangelove which was a nurse heading towards virologist but no, My name was too much so I had to change it, which was something I did a lot until I Got De La Fontaine which to me didn't fit the thought for me.

[LordFowl]

Its all your fault, Alberyk. Thanks a lot.

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

Actually this is Alberyk fault, I created a man named Ames Strangelove which was a nurse heading towards virologist but no, My name was too much so I had to change it, which was something I did a lot until I Got De La Fontaine which to me didn't fit the thought for me.

 

i never said your name was worth mention or changing.

[Alberyk]

Actually this is Alberyk fault, I created a man named Ames Strangelove which was a nurse heading towards virologist but no, My name was too much so I had to change it, which was something I did a lot until I Got De La Fontaine which to me didn't fit the thought for me.

 

People ahelped that Doctor Strangelove was a reference, which is, so we asked for you to change his last name.

 

I am sorry, Aurora, I have failed you all again.

[ChevalierMalFet]

I have a challenge for you, Metaphysical, an actual, personal challenge.

I want you to create, just as a thought experiment, an interesting character that you think you would enjoy playing, within the following limitations.

- They come from a working- or middle-class background.

- They are from Tau Ceti.

- They do not have unusual physical characteristics of any kind.

- They are not unusually skilled.

- They are not unusually skilled for their age, whatever it is.

- They have never done anything materially special - all the special things they've done have been internal to them, in their feelings and motivations and relationships with others.

- They are working because they have to; they need the money in order to pay the bills.

Just do your best with this. Do your best, and play a couple of rounds with them, and see how you like it.

[MetaphysicalPersona]

I have a challenge for you, Metaphysical, an actual, personal challenge.

I want you to create, just as a thought experiment, an interesting character that you think you would enjoy playing, within the following limitations.

- They come from a working- or middle-class background.

- They are from Tau Ceti.

- They do not have unusual physical characteristics of any kind.

- They are not unusually skilled.

- They are not unusually skilled for their age, whatever it is.

- They have never done anything materially special - all the special things they've done have been internal to them, in their feelings and motivations and relationships with others.

- They are working because they have to; they need the money in order to pay the bills.

Just do your best with this. Do your best, and play a couple of rounds with them, and see how you like it.

 

I'll try something like this... but it's hard to make a "Normal" Person being that I'm not a normal person myself. (I might be a snowflake...)

[MetaphysicalPersona]

Here's what you should do... everyone, tell me the properties that make a snowflake.

[SirStem]

So, so far, I've had exactly three interactions with him. He's pushy, obnoxious, and above all else, annoying. RPwise, he's a viable character. Other than that, though, I hope he accidentally gets mass driven.

[ChevalierMalFet]

Here's what you should do... everyone, tell me the properties that make a snowflake.

 

A snowflake is a character:

- That is unusually competent in their field, or unusually versatile.

- That is unusually attractive or charismatic, especially if they have inhuman features - purple eyes, etc.

- That lives outside the concerns of normal human beings, or is unbothered by normal human problems.

- That is either unusually innocent or unusually jaded.

- That 'sees through,' to the author's satisfaction, the thoughts and opinions of people around them.

- That is too young, or else too old.

- That frequently bucks authority or insults others, especially when that authority is gained 'normally.'

- That is different from other characters in ways that are materially noticeable but dramatically trivial - "different for the sake of different."

- That functions as a wish-fulfillment vehicle for the author or player.

[Guest]

I'll try something like this... but it's hard to make a "Normal" Person being that I'm not a normal person myself. (I might be a snowflake...)

I fully understand. It's very hard to play normal characters when you are an Owl. Imagine how disorienting not being able to rotate my head 360 is. Horrible.

[Alberyk]

Here's what you should do... everyone, tell me the properties that make a snowflake.

 

Snowflakeness itself is not a problem, but the excess of it can be an issue. The point is that your character is pretty much a mary sue in that case.

Some examples of it;

-He is a heir of an entire planet.

-His planet is a place of full good people that are fine with being ruled by a monarchy.

-He is supossed to be the chosen one, destined to go out of his home to be some kind of hero.

-He was an unacommon hair color due to some kind of odd trait, like being an abhuman or something.

-While you say that everyone at his planet are good guys, he still has "uncanny will to do rash things and put his life before others and aid/help in any way he can", he is a snowflake among snowflakes.

-Like you said before, his backstory has a relation with his name or something at all.

Those are just some examples. There is nothing wrong with playing characters with unusual backstories/traits, but when it is too much or just plain silly, that is an issue.

[Gollee]

I'll try something like this... but it's hard to make a "Normal" Person being that I'm not a normal person myself. (I might be a snowflake...)

 

Let me school you, all of what I am about to say is entirely true:

 

• I am an identical twin
  
  I have a photographic memory
  
  I am an actual lordling
  
  I can calculate De Moivres Theorem and more in my head
  
  I'm 6'2", 9st (55-60kg), despite eating EVERYTHING
  
  My house has three snakes, a bearded dragon, two cats, two gerbils, a crested gecko, two rabbits and two giant african snails
  
  I'm on the Gifted and Talented register (Not that that really means a bloody thing)
  
  I'm a former event manager for government events
  
  I'm a former member of the Youth Parliament
  
  I am in the top 2% of all young mathematicians in the UK. I reached that category in year 7.

 

Inis was initially even more snowflakey than Ames. And I'm saying that seriously, I can dig out the origin story if you want. Now, she's an epileptic pacifist that follows some weird-ass religion.

Just because you may be unusual, does not mean you are incapable of making normal characters; in my case, Kàyla, Iris, Delindivar (Baring the name), Goodwin, Baralor, Guenivere.

Put characters through these:

http://katfeete.net/writing/suestart.php

http://www.springhole.net/writing/marysue.htm

[Hatley]

If I was playing Ames, I'd personally have made him just some history buff from some ordinary planet, one who's obsessed with the culture and mannerisms of the European High Middle Ages. That way, you can still talk like somebody from the 12th Century. That would also allow for your character to stay in the Medical Profession, with such a keen mind, eager to learn, being a valuable asset in your vocation. As for the Hero thing, well, wanting to be known for being a heroic, altruistic individual is a perfectly ordinary ambition, and doing otherwise irrational things to help others, like, as you put it "disobeying orders or giving his tank of oxygen to anyone in need", would be absolutely in-character for somebody who's goal is to be a "hero".

[MetaphysicalPersona]

Here's what you should do... everyone, tell me the properties that make a snowflake.

 

A snowflake is a character:

- That is unusually competent in their field, or unusually versatile.

- That is unusually attractive or charismatic, especially if they have inhuman features - purple eyes, etc.

- That lives outside the concerns of normal human beings, or is unbothered by normal human problems.

- That is either unusually innocent or unusually jaded.

- That 'sees through,' to the author's satisfaction, the thoughts and opinions of people around them.

- That is too young, or else too old.

- That frequently bucks authority or insults others, especially when that authority is gained 'normally.'

- That is different from other characters in ways that are materially noticeable but dramatically trivial - "different for the sake of different."

- That functions as a wish-fulfillment vehicle for the author or player.

 

 

nowflakeness itself is not a problem, but the excess of it can be an issue. The point is that your character is pretty much a mary sue in that case.

Some examples of it;

-He is a heir of an entire planet.

-His planet is a place of full good people that are fine with being ruled by a monarchy.

-He is supossed to be the chosen one, destined to go out of his home to be some kind of hero.

-He was an unacommon hair color due to some kind of odd trait, like being an abhuman or something.

-While you say that everyone at his planet are good guys, he still has "uncanny will to do rash things and put his life before others and aid/help in any way he can", he is a snowflake among snowflakes.

-Like you said before, his backstory has a relation with his name or something at all.

Those are just some examples. There is nothing wrong with playing characters with unusual backstories/traits, but when it is too much or just plain silly, that is an issue.

 

I see but I think most of you are confused... I completely agree, he is a snowflake but he isn't a crazy one as you guys think.

- First, I didn't tell you the whole background story I just scratched the surface giving you an idea of what the planet is like, so don't think it's some utopia bad things do occur there.

- He is NOT a chosen one, on his planet people who want to ascend higher can choose 3 paths, one being doing righteous deeds and helping others, this is the path of Hero which he has chose.

-Yes he has an odd hair color but everyone has that hair color on his planet (It's like how most people have black hair) but lots of people have odd hair in Aurora

-When he does rash things, he does it in the will to be a hero because that's what he swore to do, though he isn't fearless though he can coward out and not do the heroic deed.

- His name has nothing to do with his back story, but his name being changed spawned this Ames ( I couldn't stop thinking about heros when I changed it to De La Fontaine)

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1- He is not competent or Versatile, he's a nurse the only real skill he has in Genetics but there ain't none.

2- Yes, he beautiful but not to everyone beauty is in the eye of the beholder. His hair is pink so that is snowflakey. He is charismatic but it comes with his oath.

3- He lives outside of his normal planet but he does have normal human problems because he is technically human.

4- He is not innocent or jaded

5- "'sees through,' to the author's satisfaction, the thoughts and opinions of people around them." What does this mean?

6- He's 25

7- He is not Seon

8- No, unless it's the pink hair?

9- What?

Just a note, before I told everyone that he was a prince I already had it secretly in play and it was never a problem until I OOCly announced it.

See how that works?

Before he was a flamboyant man with pink hair who claims it was natural and speaks in old English accent, now he's... pretty much the same but viewed very differently.

[Thesir]

I can understand the reasoning that you're using to defend this character, but it has gone too far. When you begin introducing things that don't fit within the lore, you're encroaching upon the work of others. I suggest you find a compromise concerning the planet that your character is from (there are rim worlds, after all), and think of a way for Ames or a similar character to fit the style of play that you're attempting without including elements such as bluespace shrouding and metahumans. You've been given some pretty good suggestions by other players and I think your character could benefit from some of them.

I still kinda like the idea of a medieval planet but also think that something like what Hatley is suggesting may make for a more grounded character.

[Gollee]

I can understand the reasoning that you're using to defend this character, but it has gone too far. When you begin introducing things that don't fit within the lore, you're encroaching upon the work of others. I suggest you find a compromise concerning the planet that your character is from (there are rim worlds, after all), and think of a way for Ames or a similar character to fit the style of play that you're attempting without including elements such as bluespace shrouding and metahumans. You've been given some pretty good suggestions by other players and I think your character could benefit from some of them.

I still kinda like the idea of a medieval planet but also think that something like what Hatley is suggesting may make for a more grounded character.

 

This, also, just use hair dye; if your guys are "Biblical humans" why is their natural hair colour pink? It's completely out from left field, just make them normal, and him using hair dye.

[Blingx3]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa those pretzels are making me thirsty

[Rusty Shackleford]

Honestly, unless you make some major rollbacks, this character will always be a massive trainwreck.

[MetaphysicalPersona]

Forget the metahumans part, that wasn't even 100%.

But I'll make a new character, after all once I explain his planet and make it fit into the lore Gollee said I can make him a V.I.P among the station (Respectively speaking).

[Blingx3]

Hello.

I fail to understand why you're trying to cram so many special charactaristics into one person. This is a heavy RP server, imagin normal people, and then give them one or two flaws, special remarks or attitudes. that's how you make a character special. not by pink hair and talking in a strange medival language. For example take Pheobe Essel. she is your typical spoiled blonde, she does not have a crazy thing about her, she is consistent and a normal person with well-worked background, and simple flaws. you're either trying to hard or too poor to make a good character here, and it's not working. and I'm positive if you asked for some help or guidence when creating a character, everyone will offer you a helping hand, including me.

[MetaphysicalPersona]

Hello.

I fail to understand why you're trying to cram so many special charactaristics into one person. This is a heavy RP server, imagin normal people, and then give them one or two flaws, special remarks or attitudes. that's how you make a character special. not by pink hair and talking in a strange medival language. For example take Pheobe Essel. she is your typical spoiled blonde, she does not have a crazy thing about her, she is consistent and a normal person with well-worked background, and simple flaws. you're either trying to hard or too poor to make a good character here, and it's not working. and I'm positive if you asked for some help or guidence when creating a character, everyone will offer you a helping hand, including me.

 

Opinions opinions... why does everyone goes to Phoebe Essel so much? She doesn't catch my eye really, she is deemed normal to me like everyone else I know (but hates humans) I don't know why everyone is always talking about her, I know many normies more likable than her and deserve more rep than her.

Edited February 21, 2016 by Guest

[Dea Tacita]

why does everyone goes to Phoebe Essel so much?

 

Because she's a non-cringey (Not anymore anyway) character that most people who've been around for a bit have RPed with at least a little and has existed...forever. Nursie has managed to play Phoebe for a year+ and still manages to keep her interesting.