I understand that if chloral needed a nerf like years ago because of how instantaneous and impossible to counter it was, and the fact that everyone was using it against each other because there was effectively nothing better to use. However, I find myself in a lot of situations as an antagonist or even as a typical chemist trying to survive the insanity of antagonism, having to pass up previously useful stuff like chloral over jabbing soporific into people to replicate the same effect but instead using even more chemicals for it. Or even stuff like impedrezene, that stuff used to be really good at keeping people super down if they really deserved it.
However, the issue is now that nobody uses this stuff because it's not useful to implement unless you give an amount that's way over their normal overdose point. It kinda sucks for antags that are based in medical or science to have to use methods outside of their own department because the tools within their department are simply inferior and a giant waste of time and resources to use. Resorting to cheesy shit like telescience bombing or raiding the armory just to stop security from trying to stop you doesn't make for much of an interesting round.
What gives with it, anyway? Is there any way to make chemicals a reasonable threat again?
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I understand that if chloral needed a nerf like years ago because of how instantaneous and impossible to counter it was, and the fact that everyone was using it against each other because there was effectively nothing better to use. However, I find myself in a lot of situations as an antagonist or even as a typical chemist trying to survive the insanity of antagonism, having to pass up previously useful stuff like chloral over jabbing soporific into people to replicate the same effect but instead using even more chemicals for it. Or even stuff like impedrezene, that stuff used to be really good at keeping people super down if they really deserved it.
However, the issue is now that nobody uses this stuff because it's not useful to implement unless you give an amount that's way over their normal overdose point. It kinda sucks for antags that are based in medical or science to have to use methods outside of their own department because the tools within their department are simply inferior and a giant waste of time and resources to use. Resorting to cheesy shit like telescience bombing or raiding the armory just to stop security from trying to stop you doesn't make for much of an interesting round.
What gives with it, anyway? Is there any way to make chemicals a reasonable threat again?
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