AWPen Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 BYOND Key: AWPenheimer Staff BYOND Key: Alberyk Reason for complaint: I wish to complain about the warnings I received via ahelp. Evidence/logs/etc: Cut down version. [security] Eric Phillips yells, "Bad people!" [security] Wolfgang Kapp asks, "Vhat?" Wolfgang Kapp asks, "Vhat?" [security] Jimmy McFly asks, "More detail, Eric. Situation?" [security] Eric Phillips says, "They have cargo hostage" [security] Wolfgang Kapp says, "Vhat do zeh look like." Wolfgang Kapp says, "Vhat do zeh look like." [security] James Whaat yells, "Fuck me!" [security] Wolfgang Kapp says, "Shit." Wolfgang Kapp says, "Shit." [security] Wolfgang Kapp says, "Reporting." Wolfgang Kapp says, "reporting." [security] Eric Phillips says, "They have guns aswell" OOC: Skull132: the joke literally doesn't work if the other doesn't reply. [security] Woodrow Mason says, "Responding." OOC: MASMC: Can I post the Urban Dictionary link to 'skull fuck'? [security] Jimmy McFly says, "Officers are to respond to cargo." [security] Eric Phillips says, "They've taken another hostage" OOC: Crazytoast42: preferably not [security] Wolfgang Kapp says, "You guys go get guns. I'll keep them busy." Wolfgang Kapp says, "You guys go get guns. I'll keep them busy." OOC: Prospekt1559: Please, take this time to forgive what I say. [security] Jimmy McFly asks, "They're armed?" [security] Eric Phillips says, "Shit, we can't open fire" [security] James Whaat exclaims, "They've got lethals!" [security] Woodrow Mason says, "Multiple redsuited hostiles." [security] Jimmy McFly says, "Alright, report to the armory first off. Eric, keep me posted." OOC: Prospekt1559: That came out wrong, hold on let me re-word that. [security] Wolfgang Kapp says, "I'll keep zem busy HoS." Wolfgang Kapp says, "I'll keep zem busy HoS." [security] Woodrow Mason says, "Seeing two of 'em." [security] Jimmy McFly says, "Let's move our asses, people." [security] Uriel Evans says, "What type o- Arm in Tactical. Arm with Lethals and be ready to respond with Lethal Fire." [security] Wolfgang Kapp says, "Tell my grandkids I love them." Wolfgang Kapp says, "Tell my grandkids I love them." OOC: Prospekt1559: Please, let me take this time to forgive what I say. [security] Woodrow Mason says, "Looks like proper pieces they've got." OOC: Prospekt1559: Yes, there we go. [security] James Whaat exclaims, "Here we go!" OOC: Skull132: You may mean forget. Woodrow Mason aims a ÿNT Mk58 at Echo! [security] Eric Phillips says, "The hostages need to be top priority" Eric Phillips talks into the security radio headset Wolfgang Kapp says, "Woah." OOC: Prospekt1559: You trying to correct me? Wolfgang Kapp says, "Gun down dude." Tulip Muta taps on her PDA's screen. Aqua says, "DO NOT COME ANY CLOSER" [security] Jimmy McFly asks, "What kinds of weapons, energy based or ballistic?" Wolfgang Kapp says, "Go to the hOs." Woodrow Mason says, "Ain't gonna do shit." Wolfgang Kapp says, "Go." Woodrow Mason fires the ÿNT Mk58 by reflex! The rubber bullet misses Echo narrowly! Wolfgang Kapp says, "Put the gun down Woodrow." [security] Woodrow Mason says, "Ballistic pieces." Woodrow Mason talks into the security radio headset Tulip Muta taps on her PDA's screen. Echo fires the energy gun! Woodrow Mason fires the ÿNT Mk58 by reflex! Kal Dickerson says, "Listen i dont want any troule" ÿEcho has thrown the energy gun. ÿWolfgang Kapp has been hit in the upper body by the energy gun. Your armor has protected your upper body. Wolfgang Kapp yells, "WOODROW!" [security] Eric Phillips says, "It looked like a mixture" Woodrow Mason fires the ÿNT Mk58! Echo is hit by the rubber bullet in the head! Aqua has grabbed Kal Dickerson passively! LOOC: Echo: WAT Woodrow Mason fires the ÿNT Mk58! ÿThe wound on Echo's head widens with a nasty ripping noise. Echo is hit by the rubber bullet in the head! Woodrow Mason fires the ÿNT Mk58 by reflex! Aqua puts the ÿC-20r SMG into the satchel. ÿThe wound on Echo's head widens with a nasty ripping noise. Echo is hit by the rubber bullet in the head! Echo slumps to the ground, too weak to continue fighting. LOOC: Skull132: wat Eric Phillips taps on his PDA's screen. Uriel Evans draws the energy gun, pointing it at the ground. Aqua aims an energy gun at Woodrow Mason! Aqua fires the energy gun! Woodrow Mason aims an energy gun at Aqua! Aqua fires the energy gun! *beep* Woodrow Mason fires the energy gun! J.A.S.P.E.R states, "Unit cannot identify these people" Wolfgang Kapp yells, "We can't ffight here stop!" Uriel Evans says, "Drop the weapon" Aqua fires the energy gun! LOOC: Echo: My clicks man Uriel Evans fires the energy gun! A small burn marks the surface of the refitted refitted blood-red voidsuit! OOC: Prospekt1559: Bad move, buster-rhymes. Woodrow Mason turns the energy gun on Echo! LOOC: Echo: gg Kal Dickerson resists! Woodrow Mason fires the energy gun! Wolfgang Kapp says, "YOU VILL FUCKING DIE." Uriel Evans holsters the energy gun. LOOC: Cronac: rubber bullet op Frank McCarthy says, "Get up" Wolfgang Kapp says, "GO TO ZE HOS." Woodrow Mason says, "Y'all at a standoff." ÿAqua has been battered in the upper body with crowbar by Kal Dickerson! [Common] Leo Octave asks, "Lydia?" ÿKal Dickerson has been struck in the upper body with energy gun by Aqua! ÿAqua has been attacked in the upper body with crowbar by Kal Dickerson! Aqua fires the energy gun! Wolfgang Kapp says, "Everyone chill okay." Echo aims a ÿC-20r SMG at Frank McCarthy! ÿKal Dickerson has been struck in the upper body with energy gun by Aqua! ÿAqua has been whacked in the upper body with crowbar by Kal Dickerson! ÿAqua has been bludgeoned in the upper body with crowbar by Kal Dickerson! Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Uriel Evans draws the energy gun, pointing it at the ground. Aqua fires the energy gun! Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Uriel Evans fires the energy gun! Aqua fires the energy gun! ÿYou hear a loud cracking sound coming from Frank McCarthy. Frank McCarthy screams! You fire the ÿNT Mk58! Aqua is hit by the rubber bullet in the chest! The ÿNT Mk58 is not ready to fire again! Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! The bullet shrapnel sticks in the wound! Uriel Evans is hit by the bullet in the chest! Uriel Evans fires the energy gun! Aqua puts the energy gun into the satchel. Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Uriel Evans is hit by the bullet in the chest! Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! ÿYou hear a loud cracking sound coming from Uriel Evans. Uriel Evans screams! You fire the ÿNT Mk58! Echo is hit by the rubber bullet in the chest! The ÿNT Mk58 is not ready to fire again! Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! The bullet misses Uriel Evans narrowly! Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! You fire the ÿNT Mk58! The bullet shrapnel sticks in the wound! Uriel Evans is hit by the bullet in the head! [security] Eric Phillips yells, "Hostage down!" Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! You fire the ÿNT Mk58! Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Aqua fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Wolfgang Kapp is hit by the bullet in the chest! Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! You fire the ÿNT Mk58! Aqua fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Your upper body hurts badly. Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! The bullet misses Wolfgang Kapp narrowly! The rubber bullet misses Echo narrowly! The ÿNT Mk58 is not ready to fire again! The bullet misses Wolfgang Kapp narrowly! The electrochromic window shatters! Uriel Evans holsters the energy gun. Cracks begin to appear in the electrochromic window! You fire the ÿNT Mk58! [Common] Lydia Sinclair asks, "What was that?" Uriel Evans draws the energy gun, pointing it at the ground. [Common] Aerianna Blackthorne asks, "What exploded?" ÿEcho has thrown the smoke bomb. ÿJ.A.S.P.E.R has been hit by the smoke bomb. J.A.S.P.E.R is hit by the bullet in the left arm! J.A.S.P.E.R is hit by the bullet in the chest! You fire the ÿNT Mk58! [security] Jimmy McFly says, "I got ONE officer armed here. I'm bringing guns to you." Echo is hit by the rubber bullet in the chest! Your upper body hurts badly. *click* Woodrow Mason fires the energy gun! The small burn on the blood-red voidsuit widens! OOC: Prospekt1559: I feel like I'm pissing you off skull lmfao Frank McCarthy says, "Fuck" Woodrow Mason fires the energy gun! Vince Manuel says, "Oh please don't kill me." You remove the magazine (.45 rubber) from the ÿNT Mk58. Kal Dickerson says, "Hwlp" Woodrow Mason fires the energy gun! Uriel Evans talks into the captain's headset J.A.S.P.E.R states, "System integrity critical" You insert the magazine (.45 rubber) into the ÿNT Mk58. [Common] Lydia Sinclair asks, "Mister Octave?" Wolfgang Kapp yells, "OPEN IT!" Uriel Evans holsters the energy gun. ÿBANG ÿYour ears start to ring! Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Woodrow Mason is hit by the bullet in the chest! You cannot hear yourself speak! Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Woodrow Mason is hit by the bullet in the chest! Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Woodrow Mason is hit by the bullet in the chest! J.A.S.P.E.R talks but you cannot hear . ÿAqua has thrown the smoke bomb. Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! The magazine (12mm) falls out and clatters on the floor! Woodrow Mason is hit by the bullet in the chest! *click click* Frankie Fleming talks but you cannot hear . *click click* Uriel Evans talks but you cannot hear . Uriel Evans talks but you cannot hear . You are now resting You are now getting up Uriel Evans talks but you cannot hear . Frankie Fleming has grabbed Uriel Evans passively! Kal Dickerson is having trouble keeping their eyes open. You feel your headset vibrate but can hear nothing from it! Aqua is having trouble keeping their eyes open. You fire the ÿNT Mk58! Uriel Evans talks but you cannot hear . The ÿNT Mk58 is not ready to fire again! You cannot hear yourself speak! Eric Phillips talks into the security radio headset Wolfgang Kapp shouts, "GET FUCKING GUNS!" Wolfgang Kapp exclaims, "HOSTILES HOSTILE HOSTILE!" [security] Eric Phillips says, "One guy got hurt pretty bad, one hostage injured" Frankie Fleming shouts, "Oo!" Wolfgang Kapp says, "RUN." Aqua fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Wolfgang Kapp is hit by the bullet in the chest! Wolfgang Kapp exclaims, "Guys!" ÿSomething feels like it shattered in your upper body! Wolfgang Kapp screams! Aqua fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Wolfgang Kapp is hit by the bullet in the chest! Wolfgang Kapp shouts, "Chill!" Aqua fires the ÿC-20r SMG! The bullet shrapnel sticks in the wound! Leo Octave is hit by the bullet in the chest! ÿYou feel broken bones moving in your upper body! ÿSomething inside your upper body hurts a lot. ÿYou feel woosey Kal Dickerson stutters, "HW-WEL-Lp-p" Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! ÿYour armor softens the blow! Wolfgang Kapp screams! ÿThe wound on your upper body widens with a nasty ripping noise. Wolfgang Kapp is hit by the bullet in the chest! Wolfgang Kapp shouts, "CHILL!" Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! The reinforced window looks seriously damaged! Kal Dickerson stutters, "I n-n-need-d m-med" Echo says, "SHit.." Frank McCarthy starts climbing onto the plastic table! Wolfgang Kapp says, "Chill out." Wolfgang Kapp says, "We can talk." Echo says, "I need time, Aqua." Your upper body hurts badly. Kal Dickerson stammers, "H-Help-p" Aqua stammers, "N-n-n-no t-tal-l-lk-kin-ng-g." Frank McCarthy climbs onto the plastic table! ÿYou feel a sharp pain in your upper body Wolfgang Kapp stutters, "Arg-g-gh." Wolfgang Kapp stutters, "Get-t-t-t a m-med-di...m-med-dic-c..." Kal Dickerson stammers, "I v-v-ve b-bee sh-hot-t" Vince Manuel starts climbing onto the plastic table! Aqua fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Aqua fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Frankie Fleming has grabbed Kal Dickerson passively! Aqua fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Aqua fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Aqua fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Your upper body hurts badly. [Common] Wolfgang Kapp stammers, "M-med-d-d-dic-c... to c-car-rg-go." Wolfgang Kapp stammers, "m-med-d-d-dic-c... to c-car-rg-go." [Common] Wolfgang Kapp stammers, "M-Man-n dow-w-w-wn." Wolfgang Kapp stammers, "M-Man-n dow-w-w-wn." Eric Phillips exclaims, "If you guys cooperate, we can get you a medic!" [Common] Aerianna Blackthorne says, "They're en route." [Common] Wolfgang Kapp stammers, "I r-rep-peat man dow-wn-n-n-n." Wolfgang Kapp stammers, "I r-rep-peat man dow-wn-n-n-n." Wolfgang Kapp stutters, "Ar-r-rg-gh-h." [security] James Whaat shouts, "Responding!" [security] Wolfgang Kapp stammers, "T-Tel-ll my-y g-gr-r-r-ran-nd-dk-kid-ds-s-s-s I l-love t-t-th-h-hem-m-m." Wolfgang Kapp stammers, "T-Tel-ll my-y g-gr-r-r-ran-nd-dk-kid-ds-s-s-s I l-love t-t-th-h-hem-m-m." Your whole body is going numb! Additional remarks: I want to explain it from my point. I heard of the situation at cargo to which I responded. Normally merc is a bloodfest but I wanted to try RP and barter the hostages our way. Woodrow(Chaznoodles) Comes in, aims his pistol and the reflex function fires for him, a fire fight kicks off to which I take cover and tell everyone to chill out. There is a mid firefight pause to which I try to calm the situation so no one dies. It kicks off again and I join in. We all run out of ammo as you can see the submachine gun mag drop to the floor. I see this as a opportunity to stop the firefight peacefully, I'm out of ammo so I tryed to calm it again to which I get sprayed down by a submachinegun mid typing, I try to get to cover and due to me being useless and out of ammo,calm the situation. I pass out and leave frustrated. I apologise for not valuing my life but I don't believe I should have received a warning for trying to RP the situation, and trying to get to cover anyway. If you wish anything else to be explained from my perspective just ask.
Guest Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 I was the one watching as a ghost and the one who reported this. You, as a security officer, felt it appropriate to stick around, watch, trying to negotiate with gunmen with obviously hostile intent as your vest was being plugged with several submachinegun rounds. When murder starts coming into play for a situation like that where everyone and their mom was getting shot in the crossfire, all other bets are off and you should've cashed in your chips and keelhauled to a better position. There is a time and place for negotiation, in the middle of a firefight is never a good time, especially since your safety and the safety of other bystanders was at risk. Sitting idly in the cargo lobby telling the nuke ops to "Chill" while guns were blazing wasn't an appropriate course of action in terms of roleplay. You were only seemingly fearful by the time you had half a c20r magazine dumped into you. I believe Alberyk was in the right to issue you this warning, because there was very little of fearRP or any sense of self-preservation exercised by your character.
AWPen Posted June 12, 2016 Author Posted June 12, 2016 At first I tryed to resolve it peacefully. I joined it got hit a couple times before I ran out of ammo. At this point I was typing something and about to take cover behind the glass when I was sprayed down. With no ammo and no weapons it was more of a shellshocked on the floor about to bleed out 'chill'. However the reason I didn't react quick was because I was typing. However I got to cover after that and passed out.
Alberyk Posted June 13, 2016 Posted June 13, 2016 First, no warning was issued, I just had a talk to you and put a note about it. Also, the main issue is the following; Aqua fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Wolfgang Kapp is hit by the bullet in the chest! Wolfgang Kapp exclaims, "Guys!" ÿSomething feels like it shattered in your upper body! Wolfgang Kapp screams! Aqua fires the ÿC-20r SMG! Wolfgang Kapp is hit by the bullet in the chest! Wolfgang Kapp shouts, "Chill!" Aqua fires the ÿC-20r SMG! The bullet shrapnel sticks in the wound! Leo Octave is hit by the bullet in the chest! ÿYou feel broken bones moving in your upper body! ÿSomething inside your upper body hurts a lot. ÿYou feel woosey Kal Dickerson stutters, "HW-WEL-Lp-p" Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! ÿYour armor softens the blow! Wolfgang Kapp screams! ÿThe wound on your upper body widens with a nasty ripping noise. Wolfgang Kapp is hit by the bullet in the chest! Wolfgang Kapp shouts, "CHILL!" Echo fires the ÿC-20r SMG! You were yelling; "Chill", while the operatives were firing against you, that was the main issue, I had no problems if you tried to negotiate, even if did not make much sense at the moment. And as I said, you were not even issued a warning, I just had a talk to you, and the note, no administrative warning.
AWPen Posted June 13, 2016 Author Posted June 13, 2016 The first bullets I took where because I was typing hoping to avoid anyone dying. Yes I took a few bullet's before I moved to cover but due to the fact I had no ammo I just hopelessay yelled chill. I took a few bullets while in cover. I didn't mean to make it come out that way but I was mid typing and just yelling chill so I could say what I was going to say
Garnascus Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 Well, its been clarified that you actually didn't receive a warning for this. IS there still some issue here AWPen?
AWPen Posted June 14, 2016 Author Posted June 14, 2016 I realised that after I posted it. All fine now.
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