Staff Complaint: Skull132

[K0NFL1QT]

BYOND Key: K0NFL1QT

Staff BYOND Key: Skull132

Reason for complaint: Aggressive manner directed at me personally for critiquing the state of the code.

Evidence/logs/etc:

Additional remarks: Skull's grown increasingly hostile towards me in the past few weeks, and now I'm being threatened with a ban for something that's not against the rules; having an opinion.

[Skull132]

To clarify, I meant a kick. I know full well that your conduct is not fully ban worthy without a proper administrative review and other courses of action being used first.

To give long term background: ever since our code hop onto newer Bay, you have done little to nothing but whine and moan. We've cleared almost every issue, minus a few details which were left unimported and the IPCs/Shells, and are constantly working on adding more content while fixing the bugs we are able. We give our best, we really do. Obviously, bugs happen with code, with development. Literally no way to prevent them from happening, specially not the super obscure ones.

For the short term perspective: the round before the one reported, we discovered that under some very specific conditions, mobs do not die properly. I guess you saw my announcement to that effect. So, round swaps, myself and Nanako proceed to test and discuss this. On come you, and your second and third lines in dsay (also on the server):

Line 44647: [16:38:43] byg6Rf SAY: Ghost/K0NFL1QT : So organs are broken now?
Line 44686: [16:39:13] byg6Rf SAY: Ghost/K0NFL1QT : This code downgrade is the gift that keeps on giving!

 

Your attitude has been in this same vein for the last 6 months. I've made topics explaining the why's the and the how's. The first two months of the code swap, I did that on a daily basis. And I am very certain that you were told the reasons. Your conduct indicates that you quite obviously do not care. Very well, as you choose. And you are also free to have whatever opinion you wish. I do not enjoy some aspects of new code either. But understand this: your passive-aggressive method of complaining about it is ridiculous, specially when you consider that it has been going on for six months. (I won't even touch the issue that often times you just log on, go into dsay, and complain either about the code, or about something going on ingame. Nor will I question your reasons for actually still being here, with the previous sentence taken into consideration. That isn't here or now.)

The shift in my conduct is very simple, though:

If you choose to act disrespectful towards my own efforts, and the efforts of my team, without contributing anything constructive, then I do not feel the need to hold a friendly demeanor towards you. And I will use my administrative powers if you become disruptive, as is my job.

Oh, and as a closing remark. If those sentences count as "critique", then I'm the motherfucker President of the god damned Republic of Estonia. Fucking hooyah?

[K0NFL1QT]

A scan of my forum posting will reveal a majority presence in the 'suggestion and ideas' forum that, I think, counts for constructive criticism most of the time. I'm also one of the first to thank Nanako for their work when they fix a thing or introduce a new feature, and I rarely see the others in game, so it's not accurate to say I'm being disrespectful of the coding team. I applaud their work; there are always more bugs and there would be no server without the work of the coding staff. The last thing I remember you implementing on the in game side was that neat surgery table, which if I remember correctly I tested and gave feedback on before it was nuked in the codeswap. I've come and gone since then, but I've also offered feedback on the 'new map' as often as it's been shown during development.

That said, I've seen little benefit to the code overhaul six months ago that's broken so many things, such as two of my favorite roles and the only whitelisted race I've ever chosen to pursue (to explain why I spend most rounds as a ghost). Last I checked, it's not forbidden in the rules to have an opinion and express it, and I'm not even using offensive language. I just don't think in game is the place for long winded extrapolations due to the rate of screen scrolling, so I will sometimes express myself in short quips that are intended to be lighthearted. For a time I was even using the github to report problems directly, and I don't think any of the issues I pointed out months ago have been remedied yet so you'll excuse the cynicism. Cynical and sarcastic I may be, but searching the rules finds zero matches for 'disruptive opinions', or even just 'disruptive' as a matter of fact; it's not actually mentioned in the rules as something worth taking administrative action over. And unless I'm mistaken, you chose to remove yourself from matters of administration irregardless.

Nobody else is getting aggressive with me over throwaway comments celebrating inevitable code flaws, and I think I understand why. Unless I misremember, wasn't the code revert your idea? It would explain why you get so defensive over the consequences.

[Skull132]

Nobody else is getting aggressive with me over throwaway comments celebrating inevitable code flaws, and I think I understand why. Unless I misremember, wasn't the code revert your idea? It would explain why you get so defensive over the consequences.

 

Let me just flip this and use your own words against you here:

 

[...] such as two of my favorite roles and the only whitelisted race I've ever chosen to pursue [...]

 

So it takes an annoyed motherfucker to know an annoyed motherfucker. Alright. (Though, if I'm correct, forensics used to be one of those, and literally the only difference right now is the size difference of the two toolkit boxes. And this has been the case for the past month, prior to that there also existed a bug with boxes for baggies.)

I have a proposal. We both revert back to holding somewhat of a respectful attitude towards each other: I stop chewing you out, and you stop sniping over DSay, and we just carry on with our respective lives. And once all the stars and moons align, we can also have FBPs. Because, 200 file merge errors are great.

The alternative to that is that we give the Head Admins and primaries carte blanche on how they wish to manage this complaint and the issue in general. (This will happen anyways, unless we're willing to sort this shit out between the two of us.)

EDIT: two simple reasons why the code update was necessary:

• The amount of time it would have taken to make our code properly 510 compatible would have been months (meaning fun things, like unlisted server until such a time).
• Actually remaining compatible with other codebases, so we can import new features and backend support from other servers. Otherwise, we'd be relying on 1 - 2 feature-capable coders on making all of the features forever. Hint: that wouldn't work out too well, Nanako and myself have lives to take care of as well.

[Skull132]

Oh, and an addendum to the proposal. I will then go through other admins, if I feel like you're being an issue, as I recognize that my judgement may not be 20/20 on the matter.

Unless you're outright griefing, or some such.

[K0NFL1QT]

I have a proposal. We both revert back to holding somewhat of a respectful attitude towards each other: I stop chewing you out, and you stop sniping over DSay, and we just carry on with our respective lives.

 

I can agree to us both letting go of our recent issues and letting this be settled.

[Shadow]

Since you two settled this between each other Ill lock and archive this in 24 hours.

[DatBerry]

locking and archiving instead of shadow because's forgot, again.