Dreamix Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 You can't just create a gun with all the appropriate mechanisms for it to support a hangun magazine. We're talking about ghetto stuff, so unless your engineer/whoever is also a gunsmith, that shouldn't happen. As DatBerry originally proposed, you should load the gun with one bullet, fire it, load another, fire, etc. It should literally just be a pipe+trigger. "b-but we have w-wizards and all, r-realism is nonexistent" No, just no. The game is supposed to be believable and consistent.
Guest Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Are you even trying to make a coherent suggestion, or is this just the typical posting habits we've been seeing from you as of late?
hivefleetchicken Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Are you even trying to make a coherent suggestion, or is this just the typical posting habits we've been seeing from you as of late? Old habits die hard as we see delta being a cunt after all these years Does the handmade pistol also come fully loaded with a magazine upon crafting? Just curious.
Dreamix Posted August 27, 2016 Author Posted August 27, 2016 Are you even trying to make a coherent suggestion, or is this just the typical posting habits we've been seeing from you as of late? I don't know what you're about. Everything is serious here, and so is this suggestion. I'm not the only one who finds the current ghetto semi-automatic handgun to be bad. This suggestion was made after a longer discussion on discord.
Guest Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 You can't just create a gun with all the appropriate mechanisms for it to support a hangun magazine. We're talking about ghetto stuff, so unless your engineer/whoever is also a gunsmith, that shouldn't happen. Yes, you can. Gunsmiths produce quality, workable weapons, and even then, modern-day firearms are factory produced and not made by hand anymore. It is, however, possible, to piece together a shoddily crafted weapon like this that also supports standard pistol magazines. Pipe guns are not the only thing a crafty person are limited to making. As DatBerry originally proposed, you should load the gun with one bullet, fire it, load another, fire, etc. It should literally just be a pipe+trigger. Pipe guns are incredibly dangerous as they are not suited for high-velocity projectile firing. Not to mention the fact that pipe guns are not as simple as "pipe and a trigger." Not even a flintlock is as simple as that. How they are portrayed in modern games today is entirely unrealistic, inconsistent with firearms mechanics and entirely ignorant of the physics behind ballistics. "b-but we have w-wizards and all, r-realism is nonexistent" No, just no. The game is supposed to be believable and consistent. Wizards have nothing to do with guns. Whinging about this same detail over and over again doesn't make it more or less true. The current semi-automatic makeshift pistol is fine. It works as intended and has its own filled niche.
Alberyk Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 The pistol was made with the purpose of being a magazine-feed pistol, and I have no plans, by myself, to change it. It is far inferior to security's colt, due to higher recoil and less accuracy, besides being the first one to be blessed with jamming mechanics in the next update. And if I did wish for it to be a zip gun, I would just allow the crew to craft those. Does the handmade pistol also come fully loaded with a magazine upon crafting? Just curious. No, it does not, like every other makeshift weapons, it comes unloaded and can only use .45 pistol magazines.
hivefleetchicken Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Ah, okay. On tg it does. I'm assuming the ammo is only craft-able in an autolathe, or can it be made out of metal/plasteel/whatnot sheets too?
Alberyk Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Ah, okay. On tg it does. I'm assuming the ammo is only craft-able in an autolathe, or can it be made out of metal/plasteel/whatnot sheets too? No other source of obtaining ammo was added, so, yes.
DatBerry Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 The way i wanted to work (and how a new ghetto pistol im fiddling around in DM works) is by having to unload the magazine and then manually putting each bullet, i didn't think the magazine would go into the pistol itself when i sprited it. Though this isnt really an issue, with jamming mechanics coming in soon. As delta already stated, semi auto weapons are easily improvised. My only issue with it right now is how fast its made, but with how fast everything else ingame is (surgery/cooking/ etc) i think its somewhat fine, if it wasnt for engineering...
Dreamix Posted August 28, 2016 Author Posted August 28, 2016 Okay then. You got me here, Delta. Ghetto semi-automatic handgun can stay. Feel free to bin this one.
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