[+1 dismissal] RP-intensive role whitelists

[AmoryBlaine]

I am of the opinion that we have a lot of shitty Shrinks and Chaplains. These roles are usually populated by LowRP players who make no effort to act out the role in any constructive manner to further RP. As such, I think a whitelist for both roles should be in order. While the draw back is that there would be less Shrinks and Chaplains, it would ensure that the ones we do receive are of a higher quality. You could even set up appointments with specific Psychologists with there being less chance of the role taken up by an SSD or incompetent. We may actually even get proper Chaplains and Spiritual counselors rather than tribalistic shaman and overzealous Irish "priests" who drink until they are infirm.

I don't think it'd be much of a hassle, and there isn't much of a drawback aside from the previously mentioned dwindling of characters in the roles. But, like I said. Quality of quantity.

[sdtwbaj]

if we whitelist roles that require heavy RP, we should also whitelist security, bartender, and detective.

if they're a shitty chaplain or awful psych, ahelp it, file an IR, make a character complaint, but whitelisting these roles is just a random bandaid fix that is akin to alt-f4ing them out of the server.

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[AmoryBlaine]

if we whitelist roles that require heavy RP, we should also whitelist security, bartender, and detective.

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I actually agree with you there. But, you fail to see that while those roles have mechanical purpose in game- the Security positions, atleast- the two roles I specified are entirely based in RP. They exist for RP and have no other point. If I IR'd every Chaplain who did nothing but walk around with a trophy rack and hood while making no attempt to RP and ahelp'd every single Shrink who sits in their Office quietly I'd probably break my keyboard. I've always been of the opinion that more is less. Cut the fat from the roles, let those who truly want to RP as those occupations take them up instead.

But on the point of Security, yes- entirely I think we should have either OOC or IC barriers on Officers. They can make or break the round, really. And that's something that should be taken into account with them not requiring anything but a short timer on the role befor eit opens.

[sdtwbaj]

if we whitelist roles that require heavy RP, we should also whitelist security, bartender, and detective.

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I actually agree with you there. But, you fail to see that while those roles have mechanical purpose in game- the Security positions, atleast- the two roles I specified are entirely based in RP. They exist for RP and have no other point. If I IR'd every Chaplain who did nothing but walk around with a trophy rack and hood while making no attempt to RP and ahelp'd every single Shrink who sits in their Office quietly I'd probably break my keyboard. I've always been of the opinion that more is less. Cut the fat from the roles, let those who truly want to RP as those occupations take them up instead.

But on the point of Security, yes- entirely I think we should have either OOC or IC barriers on Officers. They can make or break the round, really. And that's something that should be taken into account with them not requiring anything but a short timer on the role befor eit opens.

 

If the people who actually wanted to play the roles were consistent, they'd be visible. I doubt there's much competition for Chaplain or Psychiatrist slots.

That, and Chaplain actually does have mechanics for battling cults and vampires.

Also, frankly, it isn't these roles' jobs to create RP. They're laid out as a freeform way for people to take a direction and run with it, in the case of Chaplain, or try to do conversationRP, in the case of Psychiatrist. Antags exists to create RP, and these roles vary between existing to deal with antags and existing for the sake of existing.

I can't see much benefit to whitelisting them, as really it would only lock players out of a job that they didn't particularly care about in the first place. That, and a whitelist implies that they can do something harmful to the round, which they really can't.

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

I would rather delete my chaplain characters than apply for a whitelist to it. A whitelist for a job that is not in high demand (command) will kill the role entirely. That is not your intention, but that is the reality. Ever since IAA has required a command whitelist the slot has been devastated in terms of activity. Whitelists for station jobs are for jobs that have a major round impact. The Chaplain and psychologist do not have a major round impact.

[Alberyk]

Against this because such issues are already covered by rules and should be ahelped.

Voting for dismissal.

[LordFowl]

Voting for dismissal. Whitelisting does not happen for roleplay-based roles and for good reason. Binning.