Player Complaint - Rickeymadenson

[K0NFL1QT]

BYOND Key: K0NFL1QT

Game ID: bTv-dhh9

Player Byond Key: rickymadenson

Staff involved: None

Reason for complaint: Pointlessly ruining a Merc gimmick in progress, for no good reason.

Long version.

Lilium Argentium has an approved contract for her abduction. I, as a Merc, decided to pursue it. We geared up and deployed, and this is a side issue but the moment we set foot off our shuttle the Vox Heister was pulling drivebys on us with an Xray laser gun on a space bike. So rather than deal with that bullshit, I went ahead into the station alone, secured my target, extracted them successfully with much delay. I had the shuttle dock at arrivals just so I could get back on the shuttle and get the target secured and safe. I got my infection tended to and then went to torment the kidnapped crew with our pre-planned gimmick, but apparantly Rickeymadenson, as Divine Exia, decided they were just going to shoot me because they didn't like what I was doing. I wasn't forcing them to be a part of my plan, wasn't asking them to help too much, and was ready to help them if they ever wanted to do more than sit on the shuttle contributing precisely nothing to the round.

Did you attempt to adminhelp the issue at the time? If so, what was the known action taken by administration/moderation? No, because I doubt it classed as grief, but I still feel it was very dickish.

Approximate Date/Time: 22/03/2018

[Garnascus]

So if i am reading this right ricky was a member of your merc crew and shot at you for "IC reasons". I am sure [mention]Ricky_the_banshee[/mention] can elaborate a little on that. All i know is its generally SUPER SUPER discouraged to shoot or kill your team mates. Some semblance of team work is expected. Although its definitely possible.

 

Did you attempt to adminhelp the issue at the time? If so, what was the known action taken by administration/moderation? No, because I doubt it classed as grief, but I still feel it was very dickish.

 

ALWAYS AHELP THINGS!!!!!!

IT IS WAY EASIER TO DEAL WITH IT IN ROUND!!!!!!!

NEXT TIME I WILL LOW-ORBIT-ION-CANNON YOUR COMPUTER!!!!

[K0NFL1QT]

ALWAYS AHELP THINGS!!!!!!

 

Yes, but I actually want to see his responses. The IC justification from what was said between the characters, was weak to non-existant. I want him to justify OOCly shutting down the only surviving merc interaction with the crew.

[Garnascus]

Yes, but I actually want to see his responses. The IC justification from what was said between the characters, was weak to non-existant. I want him to justify OOCly shutting down the only surviving merc interaction with the crew.

 

You're telling me you did not ahelp and instead made a public player complaint specifically so you could ricky's justification yourself instead of a staff member telling you it was valid or not? Thats not how this works! thats not how any of this works!

[K0NFL1QT]

I did not ahelp because, technically, nothing I saw done was against the rules. We had RP through the round, mostly me shouting at them to move the ship, and a couple minutes of RP on the ship before they turned on me. They held me up for a minute before firing. The problem is, that's all they did. They manned the ship, interacted with no-one else, and betrayed a merc in the middle of an antag RP that had been planned for over a week. I want to know why. Maybe it was legit. It seemed like they shitting on the roleplay for no good reason. Exia could have walked away from the confrontation. Exia could have gone to the station for loot/other captives. Why was betraying a merc in the middle of antagging the shit out of someones backstory for kicks, the way to go?

This was co-ordinated, backstory based roleplay. I got the characters name right, I got the backstory details right, I got a good flavor text picture, I survived the meta-vox ambush and stealthily solo-extracted my target and was in the middle of a very personal antag exposition. Ricky's contribution was 'I don't like it so I'm gonna kill you'. I don't care that I died. When I antag, I expect to die; I just try and make it a fun ride for people. I don't expect anything done was technically against the rules, except for perhaps being a dick by needlessly shutting down roleplay. You know, that thing we're all here for.

[Ricky_the_banshee]

WARNING: Grab a mug, popcorn, or both because it's going to be a looooong story.

Okay, here is an explanation from the root up until the initial "backstab" since you want your "IC justification". It started with crossfire commencing, and everybody was debating through AOOC what the gimmick was going to be. A couple of ideas were exchanged and shot down due to lacking much substance. Eventually, the consensus came down to "Let's see what both sides bring to the table and react accordingly to it should we engage each other." The rest was organized ICly, and we agreed on the following plan: Infiltrate the base, kidnap a scientist/RD (with the pertained IC context of possessing knowledge of NT schematics, patents and secrets of great value to "the client"/hiring party) and to bust into their vault and acquire all the valuables. The plan wasn't too elaborate, would have provided conflict with the crew, and perhaps with the raiders since it's crossfire. Knowing well that an well-organized merc team has at least one member watching over the shuttle, I volunteered to allow the others to have fun on-station and radio'd so. On our way, we were able to intercept a discussion between the pirates and the station (Keep this in mind, because it will be important for later.) and we figured this would be the perfect distraction to make use of.

Then things started to get messy. When arrived at the designated landing zone and in a matter of seconds a Vox on a space bike appeared spontaneously to open fire on the mercs on the away mission. I assume panic ensued, and everybody booked it instinctively so the team ended up scattered. One merc got stuck in an airlock and went MIA. the 2nd one managed to get to the vault, but supposedly succumbed to their wounds. And finally, there was K0n's being the only one left alive while I was trying to watch the shuttle as the Vox kept scooting by and digging holes. K0n's radio'd in that they had acquired a "hostage", which I assumed was a scientist as we had planned. With some messy coordinating and a disrupted radio network, we were able to rendezvous at the arrivals airlock where I had docked the shuttle.

Much to my surprise, K0n's merc deviated from the original game plan to instead bring with them a random bartender. When I confronted them on this, they told me to look at the uplink. The uplink revealed that the bartender in question was, in fact, HIS daughter. After that clusterfuck of an operation, with half the team KIA/MIA, he returned to the shuttle with just a single barkeep with a bounty. If it were a side-op, sure, why not? However, what prompted me to let my character backstab k0n's merc was his dismissive attitude and him refusing to go along for a second raid to complete the original objective because, "he got what he wanted" and instead told my merc to go on her own. He gave up on the team aspect on which Merc thrives, and instead insists I go on a solo mission to a research facility on high alert with heavily armed security personnel.

Furthermore, that same pirate crew from before had made some deals with the station which would’ve meant that we were even more outnumbered than we initially were. So I came up with a different plan instead. I’d kill off the merc, take his hostage back to the station to establish a truce and hopefully gain their trust. From then on, I’d resume the original plan and get out ASAP.

So I confront K0n’s merc, we engage each other in a firefight and he wins. People in dsay ask what prompted me to off him, I explain and the rest is history. A lot more happened, of which some started to build the unneeded salt in my blood, but that’s not relevant to this complaint. However, what is important is that following the end of the round, people asked the mercs what was up with their terrible gimmick, to which I responded and explained how things got messed up. When all of a sudden K0n calls me out on “sitting down and doing nothing whilst he at least went out to do shit.” So I respond, then I get a follow up about how at least he tried to bring “some RP with his gimmick.” I’m sorry k0n, but what’s basically a 1 on 1 chairRP is NOT what merc’s supposed to be about. It’s a team-based gamemode, that goes along with coordination and established mission plans. We had one, and you shat all over it by bringing something so trivial and pale-looking for the “sake of RP”. That you showed the audacity to call me out for “doing nothing” while I proposed the 2nd raid. You were the on who shot it down, you made the decision to have the others die in vain for you to solo a mediocre game plan of chairRP.

So, did I believe that backstab was ICly justified? Absolutely. Do I think this complaint is nothing but a petty attempt to paint me dirty because you know damn well you messed up and need a scapegoat? Absolutely. Pardon me on my French, but this isn't the first time you throw complaints at people who had shown the resolve to call you on your bullshit and it most likely will not be the last time you wil attempt to bring down somebody that calls you on your crap.

[Garnascus]

....well

I think that answers that question. Next time please just ahelp things.