CampinKiller

No idea if I can, but if I can, voting for dismissal. This is a headscratcher

This was the interaction: The only thing that was said was "Stop calling me sir, I'm a woman," whilst you were already behaving with hostility towards Gajuti. There was no further explanation as to why, any additional context, nothing. There was no "deliberate refusal to accept being told to stop." Rather, you and Stripes both began berating the player with no further context, with Stripes going so far as to draw a weapon. A normal, good faith response to the player would probably have been "Could you please not, I'm a trans woman, calling me sir makes me uncomfortable." Instead, you assumed the worst and attacked the player. From simply being told "I'm a woman, don't call me sir," I don't see how a reasonable person can say that they were intentionally misgendering. And let's be clear, you and Stripes both said that it was intentional, both in the ahelps and in the complaint. I don't really get how you can claim otherwise. I'm also aware that you and other people within this group of yours are slandering me over this decision, just like Matt (no idea why he was included here btw). I'm only going to say I trust that this behavior will be dealt with by the handling staff.

The complaint in question was dismissed because, after investigation, it was clearly unfounded. As for the public with hunt, we have confidential complaints for a reason. They would have been far more appropriate than levying some serious accusations at a new player for anyone on the forum to see. It is also a bit hard to believe that you made the complaint in total good faith when these accusations had no or little evidence to back them up and featured vague references to supposed other incidents. People seriously need to consider the ramifications of things that they say. There was a very big implication that the person misgendered Stripes's character intentionally in yours and others posts. The stigma that someone would have from that and the damage to their reputation is quite large, and that's before the fact that they could very well end up banned for such behavior. I'm not sure how you could make that complaint and then sit here and say that you were not accusing someone you thought was intentionally misgendering someone of being transphobic. Those don't add up. The player in question said he had never had any intention of misgendering anyone and would take care to avoid doing so in the future. I'm going to take umbrage at this thinly veiled swipe at our decision. First of all, characterizing a note as "extreme" is laughable. Further, yes, threatening someone with a knife and locking them in a room because they mistakenly called you "Sir," when they have both called everyone on the ship by that AND have no idea that they are speaking to a transgender woman is not remotely reasonable behavior. As said in the complaint, there was no real attempt to explain what the issue was. Instead it was demands, threats, and anger. Quite frankly, it looked like Stripes and you were baiting the player and trying to get him into further hot water if they didn't kneel at your feet and apologize whilst having a knife waved in their face. The ONLY reason I decided to not consider anything further than a note against Stripes was because they were told to find an IC resolution - even though that resolution was quite insane. This entire debacle was completely overblown on both an IC and OOC level and was completely toxic over a genuine mistake from a new player, so I would consider it charitable that the only "punishments" dished out were a note about the IC rule breaking.

We have come to a decision regarding the complaint and have decided to take no action against the player of Ishwari Gajuti. The accusations that his character is a stereotype are baseless, though we can see why some might perceive a racist stereotype. While we don't think it was outright offensive, we will ask for it to be toned down a little. The use of "yes sir" would make sense in context of Gadpathurs highly militaristic culture, but it would be nice to have "yes ma'am" added without incident. It is clear to us after reviewing the logs and hearing from them in DMs that he clearly had no idea that he was misgendering anyone, was extremely apologetic for the entire situation, and that nothing was clearly communicated to him to indicate that, other than instant hostility. The player talked the way he talked the entire round. There was no possible way for the player or character to have any idea that Vien was transgender without somehow having viewed their medical records (which he had no access to) before being told that. We found that there were no reasonable attempts to explain the situation, other than making threats towards Gajuti and eventually pulling a knife on them and locking them in a room, which is against rules against both self-antagging and reasonable behavior. I want to be abundantly clear here, these sorts of accusations should not be flung around lightly, nor should they be turned into a public trial or witch hunt. These sorts of accusations can leave a stigma attached to a player even when they are cleared of any wrongdoing, as is this case here. It is also quite disingenuous to make vague references to previous behavior without any evidence to back it up. That said, we take accusations of transphobia seriously, and it is something we do not want to see explored IC, similar to "real" racism (that is, not levelled against a fictional group IC). It is even more bad faith to engage in this sort of behavior towards players, especially new ones, by becoming incredibly hostile about things which are not obvious. In summary, the player of Ishwari Gajuti did not violate any rules. Action will be taken against Stripes for pulling a knife and locking the player in the room over his initial comment. In the future, let's all act with a little grace towards other players instead of unnecessary hostility and baseless accusations.

Myself and @Fyni will be handling this complaint.

Binned for OOC reasons

Let's be clear, you were the only person who didn't recognize this issue, as in your own OOC logs: If you're not capable of seeing the issue with basically randomly saying to a group of strangers "Hey, do you know about scorpion penises?" then I don't know what to tell you. Locking and archiving.

Myself and @Loorey discussed this. We are not an 18+ server, we do not allow the discussion of topics of a sexual nature, especially genitalia (real or fake alien), on the server. It is an obscene topic of discussion, one that I'd daresay should quite obviously not be brought up. Further, Owen did not even give you a note for this (rather generously, considering the topic of discussion), and we didn't find there to be any issue with his behavior in OOC. The reason he was telling you to not talk about it was pretty clear cut, this was not a nuanced situation at all. If there is nothing else, this will be closed in 24 hours.

I'm not submitting any form of government ID to anyone on this server nor am I going to ask someone to submit theirs either

This will be closed, actions on the relay are not IR-able.

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Your chance to comply was before you even were messaged by kermit. In the interest of not going in circles, I'm going to lock it, but if you still have issue with the decision, you can make another complaint to head staff.

I don't find whether or not you had time to change your vote to be relevant when you were told not to do it in OOC a full 3 minutes (and a full vote!) before being messaged by kermit. Also, from what I recall of the logs, you did not comply, if you'd even had the chance. There wasn't any "intentional misleading," going on. You were the last person messaged in the group.

First of all, there's no dirty tricks designed to give out warnings happening here. The only presumption is one easily made, when you're in OOC trying to get people to vote meteor, that you are also voting meteor, which you were in fact doing, so this entire "you didn't actually know" thing is quite ridiculous. Secondly, when a member of staff says to not do something, do not do it. Kermit said in OOC to stop meme voting meteor before the final vote even started, well before you were finally bwoinked about it. Your response was to call them the 'fun police' and then vote for meteor again anyway. This is really nothing more than a case of 'play stupid games, win stupid prizes.' The entire server was told not to do something, you did it and got warned. I see no issue with that. The rest of this complaint about numbers of voting people and server pop is irrelevant. If there's nothing else, this will be locked in 24 hours.

I'll be handling this.