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After some delay... Application Accepted Somone will reach out to you soon (or already has) to provide proper roles and access.

So, a few things to note. It is codified, sorta. To quote the Guide to Standard Operation Procedure: Under heading Horizon Weapons Systems This dictates quite explicitly BC and operations. Engineering is not mentioned as part of the weapon operation process. If a BC is subverting operations by using engineering to operate the weapons it is still a breach of SOP and should be treated as such. This is corroborated on other pages. The Hangar Technician page: The Engineer page at no points list reloading the weapons as a duty. They should not be reloading weapons; it is outside of their duties. And the Guide to Gunnery: If Bridge Crew are subverting Operations without reason for reloading the weapons, either go to command or ahelp. It is, now, a core part of the role of the department. Engineering is required to maintain the weapons. They are the only department capable of repairing them when weapons do get damaged or experience wear and tear, as is mentioned in the quote from above on the Guide to Gunnery. The SOP entry could be reworded if it is truly causing issues, I'll bring it up with the team and see about their thoughts. Otherwise, though, there is enough material to go to Command or ahelp about it. It is removing gameplay from a department who really could use something to do during combat.

You also completely missed the point of my response. I specifically brought out the context of the MD ruling because of what it responded to: a simplification of the attacking process beyond even what you describe the pen dagger to be. It is quite literally click and drag onto the target (assuming safety is off). No response, no indication. Truly invisible (especially if the silenced pistol could do this). The boot knife, as far as I'm aware, can be drawn using an action in the top right window. The object tab iirc. I'm not entirely sure on this, but my point isn't hurt by this either. A gun can do this just as well. You press H, ensure you're on harm intent, and click. RNG is the only savior for the target. The downside being it's visible. Take another example, a butterfly knife. Butterfly knives can sit in your pocket, which isn't revealed by examining. Click, activate, viola a knife. Most people can do this very quickly. Small guns can do the same, even removing the step to activate it. Just click from the pocket and harm intent click. This is so common, many antags and secoffs do this with great effect. It is not particularly different to any other weapon especially the concealed cane which is already in the game. TG is the inspiration of the idea, but thankfully we have the ability to modify how things are implemented as we desire. There are ways to address, you had one idea. Add an extra set to convert the pen, then activate it to turn on the laser blade. The benefit is that if you're searched, it's concealed. No one will know and you get to keep it, which is better than a boot knife which can be found (and requires a boot), or any other manner of weapons that are overtly weapons and would get you arrested/searched. That is the trade-off. Concealment for quick easy use. Either way, I think it's a neat idea. I'll leave it to the maintainers to decide either here or in a PR if one is made.

I don't think that ruling necessarily applies here. That MD was in regard to a weapon firing from a storage slot, meaning you can shoot someone with no lead up or indication. It goes from nothing to bang. The Idea mentioned by OP is a concealable dagger, but it still has to wielded and activated in hand before it can be used. It provides no real advantage over a boot knife in a fight in terms of first shot advantage. It goes from nothing, to in hand (optionally, activate as well), to stab. Essentially, the weapon should have to be in hand (and thus visible) to be used.

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