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Boggle08's Dionae Lore Writer Application
Triogenix replied to Boggle08's topic in Developer Applications Archives
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Hi. This application has been accepted.
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Boggle08's Dionae Lore Writer Application
Triogenix replied to Boggle08's topic in Developer Applications Archives
I really like that you acknowledge the uncomfortable truth I've found present in a lot of our lore (including my own) that there's not a lot of character resources available, just world-building stuff that can potentially give the idea of character building resources through showing and not telling, but might also be too vague to be effective and similar. I'm curious about how you see effective character-building resources being written into lore though; like how would you go about writing those? Secondarily, I'd like to see your expanded thoughts on how you see this being accomplished; "Hieroaetheria needs trimming and reconsolidation. No retcons(PLEASE GOD), but we need to retool it so that it isn't as demanding as writing an Adhomai or a Moghes, and so it's easier to parse through and conceive of a character from the player's end." That's all for now. -
We are looking for applicants to fill the position of synthetic writer. When making your application, please include the Lore Developer Template: Ckey/BYOND Username: Position Being Applied For (Wiki Maintainer, Lore Developer, Deputy Lore developer): Have you read the Lore Team Rules and Regulations wiki page?: Past Experiences/Knowledge: Examples of Past Work: Include answers to the following questions in your app as well. 1. What do you think are the primary themes of synthetic lore? If you got this position, how would you develop them? 2. What do you think is the strongest part of synthlore currently and why? 3. What do you think is the weakest part of synthlore currently and why? 4. The Synthetic Team recently got a faction of it's own, with Pactolous/the Golden Deep; what would you plan to do with this faction? 5. What do you think are your strongest and weakest attributes in terms of working on a team, and why? 6. As the writer of synthlore, you will often find yourself required to work with other teams, primarily the human team, consistently to further your lore, and reach compromises as their lore is highly intertwined with other species. Therefore, how do you think you'll deal with not being able to do what you wanted, either in part or in full? 7. The synthetic writer is a position that comes with two deputy writers under them on the team. It is the writer's job to manage their team, in addition to their duties of moderating the WL. Given that, what skills do you have that you think will assist you in this? On the opposite end, what do you believe is your weakest link regarding management and moderation?
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Hi all. Around the time I first became Loremaster, I can’t remember exactly when, there was an idea that for headstaff on the development side of things, we write out our general thoughts on our areas of responsibility, explain our reasoning, and give our general thoughts more openly to the community so they can understand the position we’re coming from, as like, an official thing. I don’t remember much else, all I remember clearly is Matt mentioning it in the discord at one point after being appointed head-dev. This is barely related to that, and more to start a discussion than let people know what I think - but I got the idea from it. Recently with the increase in discussion around the current setting as a result of the NBT2 player survey, my negative opinion on our current setting surprising some, and me writing for separate reasons what is basically an essay on the current issues of the setting, I decided to spend an hour editing down a few sections to throw them on the forums, so that people can see my thoughts clearly, fully, and without needing to essay post on discord. Instead I’m just doing it on the forums. You don’t need to take the time to read this, only if you’re curious, or if I linked this topic to you after you asked for my thoughts and reasoning in some discussion. That’s all - here’s Trio Essay posting. Problems with the Current Setting This section is going to be an overview of the problems with the current setting, and how to fix them, broken up into primarily three parts, and ending with my closing thoughts . The first part will be discussing what our narrative is currently missing, and the why/how it’s missing it. The second part will be discussing how we’re still chained to the past more in depth. The third part will be discussing issues, problems, and narratives within our current setting. Lastly, I’ll give my closing thoughts. All these sections will build on each other chronologically, so please read them in order, thank you. The Missing Medium Since switching to a ship setting, Aurora’s narrative has been missing something. Due to how the setting of the Horizon was designed (being chained to the corporations and the SCC), alongside how we did not want to repeat what occurred in the past with the original station - that being everything in the spur revolving around one point - it has left us with narratives within the setting being either too large(general worldbuilding with things like politics, wars, and similar) or too small(character driven stories, something in the hands of individual players who may use lore the team writes, but are not written by the team). What we’re missing is something in the medium, on the level of the ship as a whole, that uniquely affects it/is involved in/is tailored to be around it - which sounds alot like event arcs which we haven’t been missing but isn’t what I mean. Basically what I mean is that right now, all the big general worldbuilding stuff(which the lore team focuses primarily on) is a vast majority of the time brought to the Horizon via character backstories, to play a role not in how the ship functions, or the day to day lives of the entire crew, but to be used in character driven stories - which may have those previous affects, but probably won’t. Why is this even important - why do we need stuff on the level of the ship? Because it’s what makes arcs feel relevant. As I will do later, using many Biesel Arcs as an example, it did not matter to the Horizon whether or not the Peacekeeper Mandate is still ongoing (then we added the Grupo) - it was just something going on in the background, maybe you’d get a TCAF patrol vessel mention it offhandedly, but it didn’t matter to the Horizon, even when it was in the CRZ - so it didn’t feel relevant to the ship. It’s not possible to run an event arc for everything and event arcs are really the only way we currently have to bring these big world building things down to the level of the ship. This is not something we can just “fix” ; it's inherent to the current design of the setting, so therefore we can’t just expand on this one aspect of medium level stuff to solve the problem. I will expand on this later, but for now, this does not mean that we should make everything revolve around our ship, but that the worldbuilding stuff has effects which are at the ship's level and impact how it goes about its daily routine. Additionally - though the Horizon is mobile, we need to present most of the time due to a variety of constraints to feel the effects of a narrative on that medium level. Being present anywhere new takes developer time and energy, a lot of it, so also limits where we can go. This is more an OOC issue than a setting one, but I feel the need to mention it because I can see someone in the replies innocently suggesting we just visit newer places more frequently. Chained to the Past Secondly, I think it needs to be understood that the modern setting did not come to exist in a vacuum. It is the messy result of the last 7-8 years of IC and OOC lore developments, all stacking on top of each other in a sort of communal writing project style, to create it, and can’t really be separated from those previous developments. This is why writers bitch about old-lore so much. In its own right, for the time, on the whole old lore was not bad - despite the egregious examples that would never be allowed today being the most commonly brought up ones. However this early in the development of the Aurora setting ended up becoming it’s foundation, and by 2020 with the introduction of KOTW, the issues it caused were already beginning to show. I do not mean to beat a dead horse even more; while KOTW was my favorite arc as a player, 5 years later as loremaster, it has created more issues that I now have to deal with than any other arc run. That’s all I’ll say here on KOTW; however, those issues stemming from the early developments of Aurora lore continued to grow, and grow, and grow - until today. As many problems as KOTW created, fundamentally, the setting will always be flawed and problematic due to these early developments. I do not blame those creating the lore at the time; nor do I blame those that came after, it is only sitting here now that we can fully understand the ramifications of what seemed like trivial decisions almost a decade ago when it comes to Aurora’s Narrative. Issues, Problems, and Narrative Okay, this section is going to be a little complicated, mainly because I had to cut like half of it. I’m going to be talking about the specifics of how these obstacles in the narrative of the setting occur, why I think they happen, and what we can do about them. For this, we’re putting aside any hope of getting impacts on the ship's level, This is to show how, no matter what we might be able to do, the setting has a fundamental flaw. Also, I will be using the word “obstacle” or “obstacles” to describe the fundamental block we cannot overcome with our current setting, aka, how we'll always stagnate over time. To start, we’ll need some definitions going forward. For this section ONLY when I say issues, I mean something separate from problems; issues as I see it are defined as things or pieces of lore that make a narrative more dynamic, mostly from the perspective of the player characters and the ship - an example of an issue with the SCC is how its members squabble internally - it makes any narrative about the SCC more dynamic because it’s not fully unified (though we struggle to show this on the ship). Issues also do not necessarily have to be problems. An example is that Hephaestus having a monopoly in the Hegemony is an issue, but not necessarily a bad thing for the Hegemony (at least parts of it’s government) - however it still fills the criteria of being an issue because it introduces a narrative dynamic to any story within the Hegemony, and is relevant to Unathi player characters as a whole. Again for this section ONLY I define problems as just, something that is a struggle with/a bad thing, but doesn’t introduce a narrative dynamic in the setting or with the players. An example can be found with both Elyra and Tau Ceti, where both nations certainly have problems, but they don’t introduce a real dynamic to the narrative of the nation currently, or any player characters. This is complicated to put into words but I will try to be as clear and concise as possible; problems are not a bad thing in their own right, and can become issues if narratives are introduced that see those problems make that narrative more dynamic. When this doesn’t happen they become obstacles to a dynamic setting, and cause stagnation. The reasoning is very multifaceted, but the main reasons boil down to that the problems are at too large a scale, ignorable by characters from certain backgrounds, or disconnected from the wider narrative in some way. To give an example of how this can happen - I'll use the recent Biesel Election Arc. The biesel election arc saw the status quo of the republic shift due to issues (that barely fulfilled the criteria of being issues due to being rooted in the Peacekeeper Mandate) within the country that allowed the narrative to become more dynamic. What I didn’t do was replace those issues with more issues that fulfill the criteria of making a narrative more dynamic. Instead those issues were resolved (or some carried over) as the status quo changed, and what all of the newly introduced things were problems that were at a large political level, and while they have the potential to make the worldbuilding narrative more dynamic, as of now they don’t translate down to individual characters or the ship at all.This change was also ignorable by most characters for now, because it doesn’t really matter to the primary setting of the corporations - they’re still the ones with power behind the scenes, so it’s not something that affects the setting’s narrative. It has the potential to, but doesn’t yet. I believe that is something we need to improve upon, but is the result of the setting and narrative overall; as this trend has been going on for close to a decade now, not only in the past five years, let alone my tenure as loremaster. Basically I'm saying I could have run an event every day of the election onboard the Horizon for the biesel election, and that wouldn't matter - it still wouldn't work - it doesn't matter to the Horizon who the president of Biesel is, unless a player chooses to consciously make it matter to their character, for whatever reason. That's not a setting you're playing a character in, that's a setting you're watching the TV of. That doesn't account for actually getting events set up. To be fair - sometimes that's what people want, but there are so many narratives like this, where no matter how fire the writing is, the uncomfortable truth is it's become a vast majority of the teams arcs, including my own. The only arc outside of events I'd say I've written that was important to the Horizon in some way(and even then, not very) was The Titan Rises - everything else fell into this category. So, we need to both know how this obstacle can arise - which was just covered in that example - but also why it happens, which is a much trickier question. This “why” ties back into what I mention in the second section, about how the setting did not come to exist in a vacuum, but is the result of the last 7-8 years of lore developments, something that also applies to the narrative. Aurora has one of the most unique narratives of any SS13 server, as it’s a continuation of the same narrative that was started in 2017 with only minor tweaks/retcons made to past articles over time. It is our biggest strength, but also our biggest weakness as this is the fundamental reason why these obstacles around issues and problems exist. The way the setting was established back then, even with all the changes, set the paths the narrative could take, but due to how the setting was established, there was only one path that was logical and reasonably justifiable to take, where as time passes the narrative moves towards issues being resolved and replaced with problems, resulting in the setting becoming more stagnate. How and Why? Narratives and Storytelling are fundamentally, structured conflicts, but our setting is one where any conflict requires huge amounts of justification to logically and reasonably happen. This is caused by a ton of factors, such as the fact that our entities are split primarily into two groups, large hegemonic powers for whom conflict is almost always unnecessary/unprofitable, and smaller regional powers who are prevented from starting meaningful conflicts directly or indirectly by the larger hegemonic powers; other things include the complete and total power dominance of megacorporations, something that has previously seen attempted fixes that didn’t do much, the Solarian Alliance pre-collapse, completely surrounding the system of Tau Ceti, and much, much more. It can be argued that theoretically we could shift our approach as a team, but practically, this is the logical and justifiable narrative trend, so it will be the one consistently returned to as a narrative trend overall as the team is not one consistent group of people, but changes members overtime, sometimes very rapidly. Therefore, our narratives and storytelling overall are going to drift towards stagnation, even if we have bright spurts of a growing dynamic setting here and there, because they are structured conflicts, and our setting is not conducive towards conflicts happening. To be clear, as of now this is only a theory, I do not have hard evidence other than the general return to stagnation overtime continually despite arcs like the first invasion of Biesel, Frost’s rise to power, and then KOTW, all of which threatened to shatter the status-quo, ended up fizzling out or were resolved eventually for one reason or another, in one way or another. Closing Thoughts Trio note: Back to normal usage of the word issue and problem. Articulating this issue at the heart of our setting is something I always struggle with, especially how it’s basically not something we can fix, now, or again in the future. The problem does not stem from old lore being “bad” on the whole, it stems from oldlore not being prepared, designed, considered, whatever other word you want to use, to be the foundation of an almost decades long narrative, and it’s unreasonable to think that back in 2016 they could have known what they were writing. Seemingly trivial details, like just what type of state the alliance is, something I can’t imagine anyone thought would cause the largest event arc this server has ever hosted, ended up required it to be shattered in KOTW just for a breath of fresh air in the setting, which is now beginning to stagnate again. Every little detail that didn’t matter then, now defines what the setting is and will continue to be so long as it’s our groundwork; and that will always be the case, no matter what we do, even coming up with an entire new setting from scratch in a completely different galaxy would see those tiny details grow in importance again, and again, and again. So then how do we fix it? To be honest….. We don’t. Atleast, not entirely. This is one of those issues that is inherent to any communal writing project - especially a volunteer one like Aurora’s is. While the days of the Lore Team’s Wild West are over, it will always be the case that something someone thought was minor gets added, and ends up being something definitive, especially in the early days of any setting. The lore team has tried a lot over the history of Aurora to fix this problem, massive OOC retcons, IC arcs; Kermit just redid the entire way we process inhouse planet applications so it’s less arbitrarily up to the loremasters with guidelines now, and I’ve been bashing my head against the wall of figuring out a way of doing documentation and longterm planning that isn’t guaranteed to die like the lore diary did since I got this position, but nothing I or anyone else has tried has worked over the past almost decade. So - where does that leave us? Fundamentally, no matter what we do today, as long as we are working with the same flawed foundations, we will have a flawed setting. This isn’t anyone’s “fault” or similar, we just can’t go back in time and tell the 2016 team that this narrative would run continually for what seems an assured decade and that they need to plan for that. What can we do then? Basically, figure out a way to make the foundation of the setting irrelevant to the current lore - fully this time. I really don’t see any other way to fix this problem. Thank you for your time reading this. Trio Note: Hi everyone who made it to the end. I decided on a whim to make this due to the amount of questions I’ve gotten about what my problem with the setting currently is. I won’t be announcing it, and spent an hour quickly cutting down my original writing to be under three thousand words. As a result, this isn’t perfect. I did a poor job at connecting the Missing Medium to the Issues, Problems, and Narrative section, cutting what I had trying to explain the link, because I felt it would come off wrong. Figuring out what words to say to communicate what you want, especially over text, is difficult for me, and I didn’t want to risk miscommunication. So then why not wait until I finished everything? Mainly just what I’ve seen around discussions involving the setting currently. Things don’t just happen randomly, they happen for a reason; sometimes that reason makes sense, sometimes it doesn’t, but I think it’s important that we explore more of the “why” the setting ended up the way it did, and right now when discussions about the setting come up, it’s mostly about it in the present, not how we got to this point. I think the latter is far more important - so I decided to say fuck it and open a discussion specifically on that. I'd rather do something and have it be imperfect but atleast get a discussion started sooner on what, IMO, is important to recognize and learn from. Oh also, last thing - the just changing x argument, where x is some piece of lore in the past, probably an IC thing. Whatever piece of lore it is, given the time, X has probably become foundational and removing it/changing it would fundamentally alter at least one or more factions/species. Trust me, I tried to retcon the antag contests, and found out just how important they were to modern lore and wanted to die. Also there's gonna be like a trillion spelling mistakes, what part of an hour was lost. ALSO I FOROGT; Credit to the lore team as a whole for helping me figure out how to articulate this in any sense of coherency, but specifically NM for pointing out the missing medium way of looking at it, and schwann for pointing out the Hegemonic/Regional power divide and it's effects.
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I've barely played odyssey rounds so I won't participate much in the discussion about them specifically, instead just do the thing I always do and bring up experiences running events and how that relates to this situation. So - we've run events with basically uncapped departments and roles, the ones I'm most familiar with being Silicon Nightmares. I generally think they're nice - I won't comment on the ratio of people per department or whatever, since frankly, that's irrelevant; what's more relevant is that people could play the game in the role they wanted to have fun. That's the end goal of the game, and this type of thing works towards that end goal. I think where the issues begin to arise, though, is handling that many people. Not in a technical capacity but on command members. I remember one of the Silicon Nightmares events saw command spend more than the first hour of the event just trying to wrangle and organize everything in-round (though there's no other real way to organize things since you don't know the command roster till the rolls are in but anyway) - I can easily see similar situations developing with odyssey's, where command needs to spend a significant amount of time wrangling kittens before things start, resulting in overall less fun rounds. There's probably a ton of ways to implement this without issue, I just wanted to highlight this specific issue since it's something I remember clearly and had five minutes to type up.
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Hi. After careful consideration, myself, Owen, and Max have come to the conclusion to overturn this decision. While we understand the reason Noble initiated this ticket, we do not believe Arlo classifies as a reference name that would warrant a rename. If any of the parties involved wish to contest this decision, please file a staff complaint. This post will be locked and archived in 24 hours, thank you.
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QuestioningMark's Skrell Application
Triogenix replied to QuestioningMark's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
Hi! As we currently don't have a skrell writer - this is something the LTA and the remaining skrell deputy will handle. With that said - wanted to throw a few questions your way. 1. In the recent-ish past - the starlight zone has been the site of rioting as a result of tensions between the trinary perfection and resident skrell; did Suioq’tui participate in those riots? What were their thoughts on the riots as a whole? 2. Beyond that - what's their score on the Social Compatability Index? That's it for now! -
Article 6 of Trouble in Paradise Zavodskoi and Hephaestus Run Out The Guns; Level Significant Accusations at Each Other, Miranda Steps In(Again) The internal conflict within the Stellar Corporate Conglomerate has reached new heights, as today both Hephaestus Industries and Zavodskoi Interstellar have leveled yet more serious public accusations against each other. Hephaestus Industries announced the conclusion of its investigation into the recent attack on Burzsia early this morning, laying the blame at the feet of Zavodskoi Interstellar, accusing their fellow SCC member of supplying members of the militant terrorist branch of the Trinary Perfection, known as the Exclusionists, with equipment for their raid against Burzsia, and further assisting them by orchestrating the planetary uprising through implanted agents on Burzsia. Publicly, the evidence Hephaestus has presented are the corpses of who they claim to be Zavodskoi employees recovered from an asteroid base that was believed to be used as the staging area for the raid near Burszia, and a number of unregistered weapons found to be in the possession of rebellious positronics on Burszia of Zavodskoi make. Positive identification of the corpses has proved impossible, as no matching DNA and blood identities have been found in any database, and the bodies were thoroughly desecrated by ship to ship munitions during the fight to take the base, as were any documents they might have had on them. Additionally, sources close to the investigation tell that several Hephaestus machinists known to have survived the events on Burzsia have since gone missing, their where-abouts unknown. UPDATE: Since the writing of this article, two of the missing machinists have been found dead in their living quarters, one of suicide and one of drug overdose. Only two hours later, Zavodskoi Interstellar fired back, laying the blame for their shipping disruptions in the Sparring Sea and Badlands regions with Hephaestus Industries, who they accused of supplying and paying anti-Dominian unathi pirates, alongside other pirate groups in both regions, to disrupt their operations. Zavodskoi’s evidence is as slim as the evidence of Hephaestus, with some corpses who are unidentifiable which the corporation claims to be Hephaestus agents, and some Hephaestus weaponry in the hands of dead pirates. A confession was also recorded from a captured pirate who shortly died afterwards, however its authenticity and method of obtaining are currently in question, with Hephaestus Industries leveling accusations that the confession was made under duress of torture before the pirate’s subsequent extrajudicial execution. Into this mess has once again stepped Miranda Trasen, for a second time, with the full weight of NanoTrasen behind her. Publicly all we have is a statement from her office stating: “The accusations made by both Hephaestus Industries and Zavodskoi Interstellar are troubling, and the Stellar Corporate Conglomerate will be working with both corporations to ascertain the truths of these claims, and prevent wild, inaccurate public speculation from spreading further.” Both Hephaestus Industries and Zavodskoi Interstellar have confirmed that this statement was made without consulting either corporation, however – since this statement – neither megacorporation has continued to make or respond to allegations made by one another, going silent towards the media. A Stellar Corporate Conglomerate source reported that there are circulating rumors that Miranda Trasen has reigned both Titanius Aeson and Lyudmilla Zavodskoi in with the promise of using NanoTrasen Corporation’s immense power and the assistance of the rest of the SCC to severely punish both of their respective corporations should this feud publicly continue. It is uncertain where this feud will go from here, but we will be certain to keep our readers updated.
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Article 4 of Trouble in Paradise Zavodskoi Interstellar Shipping Disrupted in Sparring Sea and Badlands; Corporation Reports 500% Increase In Known Pirate Activity Sad news for those waiting on Zavodskoi Interstellar products coming out of the Empire of Dominia; the megacorporation reported that their shipping has been severely disrupted within the regions of the Sparring Sea and Badlands, with Zavodskoi Interstellar reporting an almost 500% increase in pirate activity against the corporation’s vessels and a number of presumed missing Zavodskoi Interstellar vessels failing to appear at their destination. Zavodskoi Interstellar has requested the assistance of the Empire of Dominia’s Imperial Fleet, Izweski Hegemony’s Navy, and the Serene Republic of Elyra’s Navy to assist in pacifying trade routes in the Sparring Sea and Badlands Of the three, only the Imperial Navy have released confirmation of a naval response to the reported pirate activity; both the Serene Republic of Elyra and Izweski Hegemony have reported they have seen no indications of increasing pirate activity in the regions. Zavodskoi Interstellar has also redirected a significant amount of their asset protection fleet to the region to aid in pacification efforts. No other megacorporation or nation state has been able to corroborate the reports of surging piracy, reporting “business as usual”, with the exception of the Empire of Dominia whose flag many Zavodskoi Interstellar vessels operate under. Zavodskoi Interstellar spokesperson Riaad Weyers made a statement claiming that the company is being specifically targeted by this rise in piracy,and have confirmed that the megacorporation is closely liaising with the Imperial Navy to investigate the matter and discover if any particular organisation is behind the attacks. No statement has been issued on when the resumption of regular shipping is to continue.. Other News: Burszia Invasion: Source close to investigation reveals Burszia Invaders are in control of technology capable of influencing positronic behaviour and were supplied with information on Hephaestus Industries facility security plans.
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With Brotendo’s resignation, the Skrell Lore Writer position is now free. Alongside the standard developer format, please include answers to the following questions: 1. What do you think are the primary themes of skrell lore? If you got this position, how would you develop them? 2. What do you think is the strongest part of skrell lore currently and why? 3. What do you think is the weakest part of skrell lore currently and why? 4. What do you think are your strongest and weakest attributes in terms of working on a team, and why? 5. Skrell have “symbiotic” relationships with both the C’thur and Dionae. How do you plan to continue this relationship an further develop it? 6. The skrell lore writer is a position that comes with two deputy writers under them on the team. It is the writer's job to manage their team, in addition to their duties of moderating the WL. Given that, what skills do you have that you think will assist you in this? On the opposite end, what do you believe is your weakest link regarding management and moderation? 7. What are you thoughts on the Nralakk Federation's current geopolitical situation - eg. Federation isolationism, the Traverse? We look forward to seeing your applications, and wish all applicants the best of luck!
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untilCanon: Canon Event Type: Hephaestus Investigators Coming Aboard Event Intensity: Low Assigned Admin: Owen OOC Event Description : Some Hephaestus Employees are going to be coming aboard to check on the IPCs. Who knows about it : Everyone! https://discord.com/channels/157516682288562176/1163485401151975434/1346118671046541366 Host/participants : Trio Notes : Have Fun! : )
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Server Moderator Application Basic Information Byond Account: Triogenix Character Name(s): Claire Saylor, Akhtar Antonov, Valerie Vitell AI Name(s): N/A Discord username + tag: triogenix Age: 23 Timezone: EST/ET When are you on Aurora?: Normally in the afternoon into evening between 1600 EST/ET and 2200 EST/ET. Experience How long have you played SS13?: Since 2017, though it was on and off until 2020. How long have you played on Aurora: Since 2020. How much do you know about SS13 (Baystation build) game mechanics?: Almost all of the basics, and most of the complex ones, but some of the more niche mechanics are beyond me. Do you have any experience moderating for an SS13 server?: Nope. Have you read through the criteria thread; https://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=4198 - and believe that you mark off all the criteria?: Yes, and yes. Have you ever been banned, and if so, how long and why?: Never been banned. Personality Why do you play SS13?: I was introduced to the game by a friend who sent me the MandaloreGaming Video on it, and ever since it’s been a game I’ve found myself coming back to it time and time again due to a variety of factors, the biggest of which I think is the sheer amount of possibilities it offers in terms of server variety and playstyles, combined with avenues for community worldbuilding. Why do you play on Aurora?: In 2020 when lockdown was happening, I found myself with nothing to really do - so decided to give HRP on SS13 a try. At first the more established servers daunted me, but eventually I found my way to Aurora and was captivated by the dynamic setting, welcoming community, the stable and reasonable staff, and the general fun of it all, while still maintaining a serious HRP environment. That captivation never left and I'm still here 5 years later, and as the Loremaster no less. What do moderators do?: A moderator's primary duty is OOC moderation, meaning to maintain the standards and expectations of the Aurora community that keep it open and welcoming. This is done through various means, sometimes it means ensuring the rules are followed and correcting community members when they stray outside those rules, or removing them from the community if they refuse to correct their behavior; other times it means helping new players learn the ropes, and ensuring they have the correct knowledge needed to enjoy playing on the server. What does it mean to be a moderator for our server?: It is a commitment to not only do all of the things mentioned above, but do so regularly and at a consistent level. I’d compare it to working at a summer camp with kids; no matter how shitty you might be feeling on a day, you need to do the job, and do so to the same standard as you would on any other day. Additionally, you have the responsibility to be an exemplar of those standards and expectations we have as a community. Why do you want to be a moderator?: This is a complicated question for me, because it’s not a simple surface level reason, but I'll keep this as short as possible. It’s something I’ve always thought about doing, but I’ve said as much in the past, I didn’t think I would be good in the role. However now, mainly due to my IRL work but also due to the responsibilities of being Loremaster, I think I have the skill set and knowledge of myself to where I would be a good fit in the role, and I’m always willing to help out if I can, so I want to give it a shot. What qualities do you possess that would make you a good moderator?: I like to think that I am someone who is easy to engage with first and foremost, and who can go into interactions with an open-mind and consistent approach; which also means openly admitting when I make a mistake or am wrong. Moreover due to my IRL work, I tend to be very level-headed no matter the situation, and logically work through a situation to come to a solution while maintaining my composure. Lastly, I think I have a good game-life separation(for lack of a better term), as while I care deeply about Aurora and it’s community, I view being a volunteer for it in a similar light to a job; it’s something that I enjoy and gives me deep satisfaction, but also something that I’m not so passionate about it affects my judgement or how I interact with members of the community. How well do you handle stress, anger, or insults?: At this point, I’d say very well. Stress is something I handle incredibly well, due to my IRL work, and I’ve had tons of insults thrown at me over the years I’ve been on staff; at this point I’ve gotten used to them. Anger is something that while I think I handle well, I can definitely improve with. I think frustration is where I can have the most improvement, especially when whoever I am having a discussion with is refusing to acknowledge what I’m saying or purposefully being provocative. This doesn’t happen often anymore, as working with kids or just as a leader of groups in general forces you to get better at keeping yourself calm, or take a break and hand something off to someone else if you can’t; however it’s still something I think I can improve upon. Anything Else You Want to Add: I always like to take these sections to discuss my weaknesses, so I will do so here as well. I think my biggest weakness is how long it can take me to convey my point in a discussion. This is mainly an issue over a text-medium, as I have a habit where I want to make sure there’s as little potential miscommunication as possible - therefore when typing I tend to slow myself down significantly, and really think over my words, and heavily expand on my points, something that is not an issue with speech because there’s no opportunity to do so. This can be seen as a benefit some of the time, but I think especially when dealing with tickets, it can be a detriment. Sometimes you just need to send it and not be a perfectionist over how a point is being conveyed to ensure things are handled in a timely manner. If someone doesn’t fully get it, we have the staff complaint forum for a reason.
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Readded this - tried to make it easier to see while still keeping it contained in dropdown boxes. If anything I'd drop down how much HTs make from middling to struggling - right now miners and officers make the same, and I think the base values for both of them are reasonable. Let me think about that. The issue with things like Hazard pay is with this system there's no way for me to account for it - I can't cover ever edge case. I've tried to make it clearer that these are general values which can be adjusted based on character and preference, but are still canon. LMK if it's clearer now.
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2 dismissals Make IPCs exempt from uniform regulations
Triogenix replied to Comet Blaze's topic in Policy Suggestions
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Page has been updated with some new stuff - also messed around with the values a bit.
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Article 2 of Trouble in Paradise Miranda Steps In; Promises Resolution In an announcement this morning, Miranda Trasen publicly addressed the news of a legal dispute between Zavodskoi Interstellar and Hephaestus Industries that came to the shock of many yesterday. In the statement, Miranda Trasen emphasized the unity of the megacorporations and likened the internal structure of the Chainlink to that of a family. Her full statement can be found here; “While I understand the shock at the actions of Hephaestus and Zavodskoi, it seems to me that many are blowing it out of proportion into something bigger than it actually is. The Conglomorate is a family, and what family doesn’t have squabbles from time to time? Our Internal Affairs will be investigating all the accusations made by both parties and help them come to a resolution. There is nothing to be worried about.” Despite this, the Tau Ceti Times have received reports from megacorporate whistleblowers of Zavodskoi and Hephaestus employees starting physical altercations aboard SCC installations, including several incidents where severe injuries were reported. Two videos have also surfaced this morning where Zavodskoi Interstellar security contractors were recorded harassing and aggressively handling a group of commuting Hephaestus employees utilising Mendell City’s Mendell Metro. Zavodskoi has rejected this video as a fake. Zavodskoi has further brought more serious allegations against Hephaestus today, raising a complaint over power outages at their facilities across Biesel, including several private prisons, and has accused Hephaestus of instructing their powergrid contractors to withhold supply to Zavodskoi assets. It is unclear if any of these allegations or testimonies are true, or if they will continue to escalate; however we will keep our readers updated.
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Article 1 of Trouble in Paradise Strife in the SCC; Aeson accuses Zavodskoi of Corporate Espionage, Zavodskoi accuses Hephaestus of Market Manipulation. Earlier today, the first meeting of the year between the CEOs of the Stellar Corporate Conglomerate’s constituent corporations took place. What was supposed to be a smooth meeting instead saw years of tensions boil over into what was described as a shouting match between Hephaestus Industries’ Titanitus Aeson and Zavodskoi Interstellar’s Lyudmilla Zavodskoi. This afternoon, it escalated to legal action. The two companies have long been rivals, even under the umbrella of the SCC, and have never gotten along, however it has not been this hostile since before the turn of the century. During the meeting, Aeson reportedly accused Zavodskoi of corporate espionage, alongside intentionally disrupting Hephaestus’ operations through the use of third party proxies, such as privateers. Zavodskoi have denied all allegations; however Aeson was reported to have continued to press and demand the Conglomerate do something about Zavodskoi’s actions, as they went against the tenets of the Conglomerate. Tempers rose rapidly and soon the entire meeting was derailed, ending with Lyudmilla and Aeson shouting at each other across a table, with none of the other megacorporate CEOs present able to calm them. It appears as though this dispute will continue as Hephaestus has officially filed a suit against Zavodskoi for a litany of charges in the Republic of Biesel’s courts much to the shock of megacorporate commentators and other observers who did not expect such a public dispute within the SCC. In response to the allegations, Zavodskoi has also filed a suit against Hephaestus for an equally long list of charges. This public dispute has seen confidence in both corporations fall, reflected in the value of their stocks which fell by 2 points by market close, as well as the confidence of the SCC, as megacorporate correspondents have been quick to characterise this as a failing of Miranda Trasen’s ability to keep the Chainlink together. As of now, we have no further information and are unable to verify the allegations made by either megacorporations. We will keep our readers updated on the situation as it develops.
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it would be but I found a way to make it easy. Also the IPC modifier is 0.45 - so they're making 45% of whatever a human in their job and corp makes. I uh - don't know if I should make it lower than that.
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I figured out a way that could work. I almost certainly missed some jobs, and species and some of the numbers are probably still wacky, and I'll probably need to reorganize the whole page; but here is every job under every corporation with every species that can play that job in that corporation*; https://wiki.aurorastation.org/index.php?title=Auroranomics_Rough_Presentation *not guaranteed I'm also certainly missing stuff.
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Tighten Command's ability to exclude crew from Odysseys
Triogenix replied to hazelmouse's topic in Policy Suggestions
Right, look. The topic of the Horizon's militarization and anything surrounding that topic, is one that is at current, closed for discussion. The maintainers have a position they've made clear, and me and kermit as loremasters agree with their position on the topic quite clearly, so there's no use going around in circle arguing about it. It may be revisited at a future date, in which case people can say whatever they want if we open a public discussion thread, but this thread isn't a place to air grievances about it. If you don't like the decision, we have a staff complaint forum for a reason. As for my actual thoughts on the suggestion; I think that there is a lot of crossover between the behind the scenes stuff the lore team does for planning events and arcs, and not only running an odyssey but coming up with a general idea for one. That said, as someone with alot of experience in the former, I feel comfortable saying people commonly underestimate how easy it is to involve every department in what is happening in a round, in my case event rounds. It's actually pretty difficult in most situations, especially when there's a specific story you want to tell ahead of time; and this is for event rounds that are heavily planned out ahead of time, have whole documents written up for them, and an admin who is there specifically to help ensure the event goes smoothly. It's even more difficult for a solo storyteller to do in a single round. I had a whole section written out about how the unathi events were planned because I was involved in that first as a deputy, then as unathi writer, then as loremaster, but it boiled down to a simple principle. When a story requires a specific thing for the Horizon crew to do/complete/ensure happens whatever synonym you want to use, either for the story to progress or simply because that's the type of round the storyteller is running, it is almost impossible to involve every single department. The unathi events were only able to pull this off because a majority of the storyline they were about was one I came up with and wrote Izaku specifically for back in May of 2022, and was eventually planning to do as an article arc, not an event one. The Horizon didn't need to do anything for it to occur, it could happen around them rather then through them. This is a baseline, the extensive custom mapping(thank you rusting, shaky, and all other mappers who helped out) and extensive planning that was done for it allowed it to shine. For storytellers however, they're trying to currently* do something on the fly with little other structure provided besides a map. The easiest thing to tell a story therefore is to give the Horizon's crew a task, something they have to do; but tasks, unless they are insanely large or there's multiple of them tailored for every department, cannot possibly encompass the entire crew and all departments. It is unreasonable to think that it would. I think bear's suggestion is the only reasonable one with this in mind, in terms of what we can currently do; I think going forward however, there's a couple things. Firstly the creation of odyssey's that are part of a larger story. The Lore Team will start looking into ways to have larger ongoing stories taking place that odyssey's can be built around, somewhat similar to what we did in KOTW where the Aurora had the whole battle for biesel happening around it and nearly all the antag gimmicks reflected that wider story. There's a few obvious issues with this immediately, but I'm not getting into them here. Secondly, given that it's going to be basically impossible to involve all the Horizon's Departments and crew in every odyssey, create a ton of different odyssey's that cater to different departments. It's not a perfect solution, but it'll balance it out a bit more. Re-use assets where-ever possible, like with Stev's nuclear missle silo/bunker thing, have the potential for the odyssey to be the horizon crew just repairing it, or restocking it before a new crew comes and takes it over, or helping out the people crewing it. Tons of different possibilities. Third, potentially make our future event arcs significantly longer with fewer 'planned' big events but have dev work during development go towards making tons of different potential canon and non-canon odysseys during that arc. I will discuss this with matt and arrow, but need to preface this by also saying this probably won't be in effect for the next arc, and the one after that even if we decide to do it, for reasons I can't disclose here. Lastly, and this one may be a bit controversial. Allow Odyssey's to come to the Horizon. Having them only be away sites will always be limiting, and I don't see a reason for them not to sometimes still be ship-centric. One of the best things about the Horizon is that we change regions often, and the best way to have consistent odyssey's would be to have some which don't require region specific maps or similar, but can happen anywhere the ship is and only need like, a shuttle mapped in. If the maintainers already said no to that and I just missed it, ignore me, and apologies. *to the best of my knowledge -
This is again an issue with the wiki itself - parsing functions are incredibly irritating to work with and around, and it's not possible for me to define them with what's called magic words in mediawiki without creating a whole seperate page for just that parsing function. While the back-end doesn't look like this now because a ton is subject to change, what I eventually want it to look like for everything would be similar to this; '''Research Director:''' Wealthy, {{#expr: (({{WealthySalary}}) - ({{WealthySalary}} * {{Tax}})) * {{NetIncome}} round 0}}cr a month (anything in brackets besides the expression itself is is a value the wiki is pulling from a completely seperate page, so {{Tax}} means the wiki pulls the value on the Template:Tax page, or 0.15 to then use in the math; these pages can contain only raw numerical values or expressions that output only raw numerical values or it'll error) aka no numbers at all on the page itself, just expressions using parsing functions assigned to magic words. For IPCs, or any non-human/skrell species It'd have to look like '''Research Director:''' Wealthy, {{#expr: (({{PosiWealthySalary}}) - ({{PosiWealthySalary}} * {{Tax}})) * {{PosiNetIncome}} round 0}}cr a month where {{PosiWealthy Salary}} would have to be it's own page and be a parsing function of the expression {{#expr:{{PosiAverageSalary}} * 8}} and {{PosiAverageSalary}} itself would also have to be it's own page and parsing function of {{#expr:{{AverageSalary}} * 0.75}} or smth. Expand this to cover everything and for each species I'd need to create on average ~14 new pages per species, or ~70 in total for all non-human skrell species, massively bloating this project, and this is before even considering corporations. I also can't shove all these expressions on one page because of the way the wiki works with calculations; magic words which define parsing functions of expressions which have a numerical value and can be used in calculations are determined by page name alone and can't be assigned to a specific expression on a specific page, unlike hyperlinks where I could use subtitles like [[The_Wasteland#Clan_"Gawgaryn"_-_The_Punished_Clans|raiders]] to link to a specific part of the page. Now there might be a way to work around this issue by using precedence, positional parameters, conditional expressions, and other parsing functions, but I'm still looking into it and a way to sort of force the wiki to output a raw number instead of a string or something else. For reference if someone thinks they might be able to figure it out; here's the help pages for most of the stuff I'm using; https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words# https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Expr_parser_function_syntax# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Conditional_expressions https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Representation_of_numbers_in_expr_parser_function Lastly as to why I just won't make either 70 new pages or have all the raw math on one page, the whole point of this is to make it incredibly easy to edit on the fly by future writers, and sort of 'foolproof' it so that changing it doesn't require complete understanding of how the system works. For example, should I go through with this, should a future writer want to say, double the cost of food for the Horizon crew, they'd just need to change the value on the Template:FoodCost page from 320 to 640, and everything else would automatically update as shown in these pictures. Before: After(just refreshed the page after saving the changed value before reverting that change) it'd also update across the entire wiki, no matter what page the expression was on. However I'll see what I can do with the wiki backend to allow for a more expansive scope.
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will consider this - I decided based on payrate but this makes a level of sense, esp. with security remaining healthy. Whoops. Decided this based off required education. HoS's require only a bachelors, CMOs require a full doctorate - I think a 2000cr/month pay difference is fine with that in mind. Will think about this because many people brought up how it feels that security is getting pennies. Might not jump it up all the way to alright, but might have them somewhere around {{AverageSalary}} x 1.5 or smth(currently they are at {{Average Salary}} x 0.9). However at the same time these are jobs that while dangerous, they are "low-skill" ones that require little to no education - I used the starting salary for the NYPD as a rough estimate, $58,580 a year, under this aurora sec officers make 53700cr a year, and currently in the code officers and miners are paid the same, so I kept that. All that said, I'll consider raising it, though officers/miners are probably never going to be making as much as engineers or similar. sadly one of the limitations of doing this on the wiki is that without a mountain of backend shitcode(there's already a ton for this page) it's very difficult to have parsing functions do more complex stuff like this. I'll see what I can do though. Will look into this more if I end up doing this.
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Hi y'all - so this is something that since I've joined the server has gotten brought up atleast once a month; the micro-economics of the setting, how much our characters get paid, how much stuff costs, etc. It's something that will never be explained to satisfaction, and there's been attempts in the past to do so that were either ineffective or made the situation worse. However I'd like to give it another shot - but I don't want to do it if there's no interest - this is going to be something that I not only have zero interest in "enforcing harshly", but isn't enforceable harshly, this can only be relevant and useful lore if the community at large decides to engage with it. Therefore the purpose of this post is to open the floor for the community's thoughts on the concept itself and feedback on what I've cooked so far, so that I can gauge whether or not this is a worthwhile endeavor. Please keep feedback relevant, polite, and as concise as possible, even if that's just "I don't think this is a good idea" followed by a sentence or two explaining why. Questions are welcome, however I might take a while to get to them, as my main focus is still the scarcity rework. Here's a rough draft that I put on the wiki(due to the math involved, trying to do it on google docs was painful); https://wiki.aurorastation.org/index.php?title=Auroranomics_Rough_Presentation Thank you, and happy holidays!
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For IPCs specifically - in general since they have a fixed price tag attached to them, I would rather not see them become more ""expensive"" than other species, or more difficult to manufacture at a baseline; so in this case positronics. When move onto species/factions specifically, depending on the feedback I get from the IPC team, the case might end up being positronics specifically don't use phoron, but other components in certain IPC frames, or just contemporarily produced IPCs in general do. As for cyborgs; no idea what I want to do yet. Any significantly powerful AI is going to use phoron though(so the horizon's AI would)