Sytic Posted August 10, 2018 Posted August 10, 2018 title says it all, but here's what I posted in discord earlier: goon ling is the shit. you wanna know why? because goon ling has hivemind. hivemind is badass. you still get to interact and have fun with the guy that nibbled you and gave you the succ. you also get to interact and they can give partial control to you to persuade people that they're you. it's fucking radical. it's awesome. in short: implement goon-like ling. you can still interact, still hang out with other people, even when you get got. it makes you feel included despite getting got, and also reinforces a more chill playstyle for Ling without sacrificing its deadly ways.
Jakers457 Posted August 10, 2018 Posted August 10, 2018 An interesting solution to an issue a group of people having without scrapping the feature completely? +1
Kaed Posted August 10, 2018 Posted August 10, 2018 Goon code is completely closed source last time I checked. Even if we did wants to port it over we can't. It would require us redoing the entire code for changelings. No one has had any interest in that. It is likely that no one will continue to have interest in that. And yet we leave it in the game despite it being the least popular round type in a literal poll that we held, where people said they would like it to be removed until it can be fixed. This is the state of changeling on this server. Almost no one likes it. No one will change or update it. And no one will even put for the effort to disable it. And yet we get about one of these threads a month.
Trazz666 Posted August 10, 2018 Posted August 10, 2018 This is fine as long as it's able to be toggled. I don't want to get annoyed by the people I've sucked. Though I remain completely neutral, if not against this suggestion.
Sytic Posted August 10, 2018 Author Posted August 10, 2018 suggestions are literally designed to give feedback on something to add or how to fix something. this is what this subforum is for. this is what I am doing. We should implement something like it, something with similar if not the same elements, because at the moment, this LRP configuration of changeling is more fun for the players who get killed by it than our HRP server and the only other thing people are suggesting to do is to scrap it entirely. [mention]Trazz666[/mention] if we're going by exactly what goon does, goon allows the ling controlling the hivemind to selectively mute people they've absorbed. for us it could be easier as a toggle, or just to boot them out of your head entirely instead of being muted. or maybe that's part of the challenge.
Jakers457 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 As someone who enjoys Ling, from the victims side and the antag's side of it. I'd love to see some innovation on it opposed to being straight up removed. As per my previous statement, I am interested in something interesting and creative being done with. Being a Heavy Roleplay server, I believe we're able to creative and interesting things, having our roleplay to such a high standard and all.
Scheveningen Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 'legally' port it over, emulate it with code mock-up, whatever. Anything that makes it so that ling is actually made good again would be the ideal option.
Aceofspades1228 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 I've already joked about Ling letting you play a bootleg Alex Mercer, and I've also called for something like this in the past. It'd both keep the people who are absorbed in the game in some capacity (in the same way that someone who gets caught by a corer borer is still in the game), while also making it so we don't have to redesign the entire Changeling gamemode to be less murder happy- by making the murder victims still capable of participating in some way (even if it's simply by giving the changeing advice on what to say and do in order to act as them properly.), we deal with one of the biggest problems of the round type. I think one issue though with it is that it'd make it nearly impossible to clone changeling victims in the aftermath- if they agree to join the hivemind, then they're signing away the ability to get cloned and be put back in the game under 'normal' circumstance, and if they don't agree to join the hivemind then they're being a sore sport, and making it that much more harder for the changeling player to succeed. This isn't that big of an issue, however- with cult, if you get turned into a construct, you can't be cloned either I believe, though admittedly the body is outright destroyed in that case.
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