DronzTheWolf Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 Remember that tank the TCFL had, but never used because it was behind an admin barrier? I do. Jotun was the trump card of the Legion, and if admins were generous, it would bring havoc to the station- In all the best ways. Unfortunately, bringing it into the newmech code wasn't a priority, and it was retired to just being a setpiece. I say no more, let's bring back Jotun. Modernize it to have the mech attachpoints and give it back it's cannons and guns, give it rubber tank treads so it doesn't actually break the station by moving, or at least doesn't do as much damage by running people over as oldtank did.. Lemme get my tank commander on.
Kintsugi Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 typically main battle tanks do not fix in three meter-wide hallways
Carver Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 Tanks in stations are incredibly anachronistic, and even more ridiculous for a supposedly advanced society like TC. Just give them a mech or something.
DronzTheWolf Posted April 2, 2020 Author Posted April 2, 2020 10 hours ago, Carver said: Tanks in stations are incredibly anachronistic, and even more ridiculous for a supposedly advanced society like TC. Just give them a mech or something. Mechs lazy and dumb. Tanks cool and old. That and the TCFL isn't advanced. That's why they use blasters and gauss guns instead of lasers and railguns like other advanced militarizes.
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 TCFL use anachronistic gear because their budget leaves them limited to offbrand products.
DaTimeSmog Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 A tank isn't an offbrand product.. even a tankette is way too much.. jesus.
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 Why is a tank egregious but our history of much stronger combat mechs are not?
DronzTheWolf Posted April 4, 2020 Author Posted April 4, 2020 The TCFL having the Jotun tankette is equivalent to how a lot of european armies use the MG3 machine gun even in the modern day, as it's a derivative to the MG42.
Carver Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 On 03/04/2020 at 12:04, Marlon Phoenix said: Why is a tank egregious but our history of much stronger combat mechs are not? Because a tank fitting inside a space station is fucking ridiculous. 'Tankette' is a poor excuse for using WW2-tier technology in the 2400s, and it's only been cute so far when the aesthetically low-tech Taj have used it. To have a supposedly 'modern' society like TC using WW2-tier tech is fucking ridiculous, especially when we've had outdated mechs for the longest (Durands) that would fit such a role just as well and without killing immersion.
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 Why is a tank fitting on the station more egregious than a large mech fitting on the station? The mechs are large tall and heavy. Is it just the wrong mouthfeel?
Kintsugi Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 On 04/04/2020 at 02:14, DronzTheWolf said: Jotun tankette The Jotun is not a tankette, it's a MBT. Thing would be huge, logically speaking. 1 hour ago, Marlon Phoenix said: Why is a tank fitting on the station more egregious than a large mech fitting on the station? The mechs are large tall and heavy. Is it just the wrong mouthfeel? Tanks are much larger than the mechs of our setting. Mechs are large, certainly, but they're crewed by a single person and are also designed in a way that's more conducive to moving around in a cramped environment. A tank is designed to navigate open terrain.
Carver Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 6 hours ago, Marlon Phoenix said: Why is a tank fitting on the station more egregious than a large mech fitting on the station? The mechs are large tall and heavy. Is it just the wrong mouthfeel? Per the above size mention, there's also that tank treads are absolutely notorious for fucking up infrastructure; with station floor tiles no doubt being notably weaker than any standard road. I'd expect tiles ripped up, crushed in or otherwise destroyed in some manner if a tank were to drive over them.
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Hmmmmmm................................ OK. I can see the merit of these arguments. The Jotun is probably the wrong mouthfeel for space station hallways.
DronzTheWolf Posted April 6, 2020 Author Posted April 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Carver said: Per the above size mention, there's also that tank treads are absolutely notorious for fucking up infrastructure; with station floor tiles no doubt being notably weaker than any standard road. I'd expect tiles ripped up, crushed in or otherwise destroyed in some manner if a tank were to drive over them. Don't they have rubber treads for this exact reason?
Carver Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 11 hours ago, DronzTheWolf said: Don't they have rubber treads for this exact reason? Rubber treads on asphalt roads are one thing. This is a station with somewhat flimsy, easy-to-remove tiling that's covering sensitive piping and cables.
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) What if breaks floor tiles it drives over? What if itsl becomes a hovertank? Edited April 6, 2020 by Marlon Phoenix
MattAtlas Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 For all intents and purposes I do not give a single shit about tanks being unreasonable to have on a station if someone PRs readding the tank.
Carver Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Marlon Phoenix said: What if breaks floor tiles it drives over? What if itsl becomes a hovertank? It'd have to break the pipes and potentially destroy the electrical cables. If you're willing to have that, why not, it gives people a more valid IC justification to hate the dumbasses driving tanks inside a space station.
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