CampinKiller Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 BYOND Key: CampinKiller Staff BYOND Key: Garnascus Game ID: b8X-cVLy Reason for complaint: Finding 3 cultists not in violation of the gank rules despite them clearly violating the gank rules. Told to make a staff and not a player complaint Evidence/logs/etc: Joined this round in progress, nothing is going on. Start gearing up. In the middle of gearing up, get rushed by Luke Conan, Joseph Nikolov, and K. Olsek (RealSync/???/Karhast), who are three cultists with rifles and guns. I try to escape and get chased down and killed. Total time between joining and death, about 5 minutes. There was no attempt to RP by the cultists, who, according to everyone watching, had done absolutely nothing until this point. They simply ran into the brig and decided to kill me. Fun. After the two looc messages I just gave up resisting and let them kill me. I told them to not shard me as I was not willing to play with them after being ganked, which they did anyway. Additional remarks: This is a pretty clear cut case of gank, where they rushed me without any sort of escalation, forcing me to try and run and defend myself, before getting killed because it was a 3v1 of cultist robes and ranged weapons against an epistol. Two of these people have a history of doing this, and it is ridiculous that this happened and was not taken care of by Garn, especially with the 5+ people in dchat watching it happen even agreeing it was straight up gank.
Alberyk Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 A bit confused, but looking at the screenshoots; you opened fire first. What did exactly you say or what did they do before you opened fire?
ThelonTV Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 As a deadchat member/Observer I can relay what the cultists in said screenshot said: "We surrounded him for at least 5 minutes trying to convert him... and then he just ran" >No front directed at anyone, just here to give some deadchat context
Garnascus Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 8 hours ago, Alberyk said: A bit confused, but looking at the screenshoots; you opened fire first. What did exactly you say or what did they do before you opened fire? As it was explained to me in an ahelp with all three of the cultists + campinkiller this is what happened. The cultists geared up with what makeshift guns they could and their cult swords. They entered security with the hope of converting people (just the detective at that point) or stealing the loot from the armory. As they where doing this the HoS spots them running down the hall toward him. Naturally he pulls out his gun and opens fire on the obviously hostile group of cultists. Unfortunately they manage to chase him down and cut him to pieces. Valid salad all around. It will never not be bizarre to me that people genuinely come out of these situations thinking they "died without any RP".
CampinKiller Posted September 5, 2020 Author Posted September 5, 2020 22 hours ago, Alberyk said: A bit confused, but looking at the screenshoots; you opened fire first. What did exactly you say or what did they do before you opened fire? Came out of (maint? not sure) nowhere with rifles and a sword and ran straight at me
CampinKiller Posted September 5, 2020 Author Posted September 5, 2020 16 hours ago, ThelonTV said: As a deadchat member/Observer I can relay what the cultists in said screenshot said: "We surrounded him for at least 5 minutes trying to convert him... and then he just ran" >No front directed at anyone, just here to give some deadchat context Yeah, they didn't surround me until I was bleeding out on the ground, so not sure where that statement came from
Alberyk Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 Okay. So, this was not gank. I will explain why: The cult getting armed/assaulting the armor had a clear reason and purpose for their plans. They were not really affer to kill the head of security, and you coming by them was really just bad timing. Now, you opened fire and they fought you, that is a fair reaction from both sides. The cult did not run out of nowhere to murder your character or anything, it was pretty much you being on the wrong place at the wrong time. If it was just a random assistant that was not related to the situation in any way or shape, that would have been gank. So, Garn is right here, sorry.
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