Player Complaint: Alberyk

[moltenkore]

BYOND Key: Moltenkore

Player Byond Key: Alberyk

Staff involved:

Reason for complaint: I don't make complaints very often at all unless I feel very strongly about the situation and in this case I do. Basically the round was very stressful, it lasted over 4 hours and a ton of things happened during which I won't go in to. This incident occurred right at the end of the round just as things were being wrapped up. Emillia Fairfield the research director one person hunted Akela and Nasir Ha'kim because they believed they both were trying to escape as terrorists. Basically ERT had ordered Akela and Nasir to board the command pod and weld themselves in, which of course due to previous round events, was done. The RD decided to take it upon themselves to grab a few guns, head out EVA and shoot through the pod's window. About four or five shots were fired landing Nasir instantly in critical condition with a further three or four shots aimed at Akela. After this, a volley of green projectiles was fired rendering both Akela and Nasir critical and unable to move.

According to Alberyk in OOC chat the round after, they had just 'aimed at the window' however this is quite untrue due to the damage that Nasir suffered on the first round of shots. Akela did pull a side arm out after Nasir was downed however it was extremely useless as it failed after one shot.

The problem I have with this incident is the lack of RP. The RD decided to take it upon themselves (without talking to ERT) to one person take on two people in a command pod, which to me is very unrealistic. Why an RD would go hunter killer all of a sudden is rather odd. Yes, they do have access to weapons but they should not be going out on a tactacle strike just to kill two people in a command pod. If anything and procedure was to be followed.. they would have at least talked to ERT before going Rambo.

Apologies in advance for my terrible spelling / grammar etc.. it is currently 05:45 AM.

Approximate Date/Time: 04/11/2015 RP-Rev Round, 05:00 AM GMT (UK)

Edit: Looking back on it this whole round was a plain mess and I did receive a PM from Alberyk apologising which I accept. ERT were not very communicative at all during the end-game which did lead to the actions listed above. I would like to withdraw this complaint as I feel that the situation is resolved.

Edited November 4, 2015 by Guest

[Nightmare]

Because im apart of this, i'd like to paste this before Alberky starts saying that him and Aleka traded shots https://gyazo.com/b0fa7256c1d373d345e5d4bb6d0263e7 Akela fired once after getting shot at a bunch of times and ran out of ammo.

[canon35]

Yeah, we went all over Reyjakai's ass for doing this sort of stuff as a RD. You're a research director, not security. If some armed terrorists might be escaping on a pod, you don't go over to kill them. No, you go onto the nice safe shuttle, leave, and then tell CentCom "Track your pods down, there might be armed men on-board.".

[Alberyk]

So, playing as RD, we are told by the captain about the directives, the same thing for rev rp. Then, I just stay at research doing my work, until the captain orders the construction of a Durand, without lethal weapons. Later, they call engineering to be terrorists, I didn't leave research most of the time. So, my character was mostly loyal to the command staff and their superiors, the only time I did leave was to cargo, to find out that the cmo was murdered and people broke inside research to steal weapons. I tried to contact the hos most of the time, but, she just mostly ignored all my questions.

The chief engineer hides herself into the engineering outpost and keeps taunting the other members of the command staff over the radio, the medical odysseus is stole and the ripley went rogue. Then, after hours and hours, I give some more gear to the officers and the round goes on, I was mostly getting information by the command channel, since the common one was disabled, so, Amellia was unaware of most things and would make sense to stay loyal to the chain of command. At some point, people said that engineering did threatened to mess with the engine, and Nasir was doing death threats over the radio.

ERT is called, I cooperate with them, and a shuttle is called. Both tajaran leave to the command escape pod,where they hide themself, they said that ert asked for them to take a pod. While before arriving at the station, they said that they would need to answer for it like the captain himself. I try to ask the ert, they ignore all the times I asked and one mention for them to move to departures. One trooper also says that there is a riot going on medbay. The brig was also bombed and people stole weapons from research. Also, she was in command, as said by the captain before stepping down.

Then, Amellia was feeded up by that, since, some part of the people also behind that terrible shift would just avoid meeting with central command, unlike her and the other command members. So, I speak to them several times to come to departures, since, they were just refusing and ert was ignoring us for some reason. I got out and fire against their shuttle window, smashing it, one of them jumps out with an energy pistol and we trade shoots. Amellia did believe that there was a mutiny, but, since she had no real contact with the situation outside research, which was mostly calm, except by a rogue ripley drilling the walls around. So, icly my character had reasons to believe more in the command staff rather than others. Besides, one of her own scientists killed an officer and told her over the science channel.

In the logs that nightmare posted, you can see that the window was smashed by the laser, which can be only broken by clicking right into it with lasers, so, I missed a lot of shoots due to the position, then one shoot hit the window, the air goes out and he slam on it, two more shoots break the grille and then, she goes out with an energy pistol. So, in the first time, I was never firing at them with the carbine, otherwise there would be the logs of them being hit by the blasts.

Anyway, it was a really tiring round, and I did made mistakes by giving people too much gear, but, only, my character had reasons to believe they were terrorists, and not right as the captain or security was. It was not a good move, but, mostly result of a really tiring round, with a great lack of communication between the heads.

[Nightmare]

I still don't see where it was okay for you, as a Director to suddenly go out and shoot the windows out of the pod near the end of the round. I don't see where any logic falls to that, what were you hoping to get by this? Katelynn has been reported time and time again for hunting possible antags with weapons. You asked Akela why we were not in departures, and she told you ERT said to stay, I don't think that means "Oh let me go shoot out their pods and get into a shoot out with them" as a director. Unless im missing something

[Alberyk]

I still don't see where it was okay for you, as a Director to suddenly go out and shoot the windows out of the pod near the end of the round. I don't see where any logic falls to that, what were you hoping to get by this? Katelynn has been reported time and time again for hunting possible antags with weapons. You asked Akela why we were not in departures, and she told you ERT said to stay, I don't think that means "Oh let me go shoot out their pods and get into a shoot out with them" as a director. Unless im missing something

 

I also asked them if that was true, and I was even given different information by other trooper, Akela was also taunting all command staff, and Nasir was doing death threats, besides the talk about sabotaging engineering. So, my main plan was to drive them out of the pods, but, since she went out with a pistol set to lethal, it turned into a fight.

It was a really long round and really stressed, I am trying to defend my point in why I did so, but, it is kinda hard to be ignored by most command, mostly the hos which were unable to report how was the situation, when the captain just gives ups and give you his position and ert which was more busy shooting cargo techs than telling what they did say or not. I did it in a heat of moment thing, it was a bad move in a round full of them.

So, I do apologize for that stupid action of mine.

Also, it seems that Nasir had a damaged lung due to the lack of the air in the pod.

[Hackie]

I'd like to pitch in considering I was observing the whole ordeal at the time. This round was a horrible mess that ran on for nearly five hours. Of course people are going to make mistakes, and while Alberyk was definitely in the wrong, with the amount of miscommunication and conflict going on station-side, he could not be held wholly accountable for his actions. I suggest you look to Alberyk's perspective and try to understand how it's like to be proactively involved with the situation station-side, as you were from what I can see, actively avoiding involvement in conflict, which is of course reasonable.

[Guest]

I do believe Alberyk was initially trying to do their part in the beginning to fill the role as a head of staff. He probably thought it was right to hand out guns and etc to the security force and to the captain, because it was supposedly their job to stamp out the rebellion.

Though it did lead to a curbstomp, I don't really blame him for anything prior to the point of what this complaint is talking about: the pod killing.

Can't really say I approve of outright shooting someone up who is trying to escape in a pod, as I think that's bad form.

[Shadow]

Yes, shooting people in a pod is bad form.

However, I feel like Alberyk knows his mistakes.

You talked about, shared perspectives, etc.

I don't think a punishment is needed here. However, I'll leave a note on Alberyk.

If nobody rises another issue I will lock and archive this in 24 hours.

[Shadow]

Locking and archiving.