Vaurca and Cloning

[SilverTalismen]

So currently, Vaurca can't be cloned at all, They are at where IPC's were afew months ago, you die and you have the option to either be borged, or left as a brain to die, What I want to suggest is a new machine, One that (With NanoTransens illicit work) has created a CA type VR Cage, that say two Vaurca die, You remove their brains put them in CA support rings (Reiconned MMI's to sustain brain life) and set them on one of three ribcage like shelves hooking them up where with some work from skull involving skull and abit of make work from someone else, would send them to a Nanotransen hosted VR (filled with Nanotransen advertising and crap) where they would have their avatar bodies back and have some basic things they can do to pass the time and RP. The machine itself would drain alot of power (with the option of being able to turn it off when its not on), I'm not sure how much in itself it would take, But for every brain it would add on more drain , and if the machine loses power, the VR starts to shut down, block by block and if a VR Vaurca is caught in it, their brain dies, killing them

But the other side of this that makes it cloning, is that Cargo would be able to order a blank Vaurca body you would put it in the machine, much the same way you put somebody in a cryo pod, and on the console you can pick which vaurca to download into the new body, and this vaurca when downloaded will recieve suffocation and toxin damage upon download due to the shock of this operation and be suffering from the effects of sleeptoxin for awhile but will be alive and whole, the body being renamed to their old name and ofcourse stay bound or unbound as before. (Their old brain dying in the process of download) I would love feedback on changes or other ideas you guys all have and if this isn't the right area for this sort of thing, then move it sorry!

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

What would the process to this be, mechanically?

You put two ant brains in the machine and they pop out as holograms?

[SilverTalismen]

There are shelves on the thing that you place the brains in, you would go to the console and if the brain is viable, you would have the option to send them to the VR were it would take the spawn preset your character has, a basic jumpsuit and body and creates and places you inside of it on the VR Z-level, When someone places a blank Vaurca body in the machine and downloads you in, it deletes said VR body and transfers you into it, dealing suffocation and toxin damage because unlike natural CA's, NT tech isn't up to par with theirs in this regard

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

Would this require that we map a new z-level for Ants placed into the machine to spawn into?

The rest of the process seems like an Ant-variation of repairing decapitated IPC's, so that itself could be interesting! Who would specialize in doing this? Roboticists? Doctors? Scientists in general?

[Lady_of_Ravens]

If we're going to make a VR system, it should probably be a VR system that everyone can enjoy, not just the occasional dead bug. Both because a VR area with noone else in it would be kinda boring (and how often are there going to be two dead Vaurca with properly salvaged brains who haven't been given new bodies yet?), and because then it would be something that's worth spending the time to do really well.

[SilverTalismen]

Well, I would say we could map a area, It wouldn't have to be massive or complex so it wouldn't be something that would take forever to build, And you are right Raven, But I think that in the begining it should be something that Vaurca should have a option to have when their dead, You COULD put a human brain into a MMI and hook it up to the VR, but I would say it would pose more risks to human brains and if it did succeed they wouldn't be able to transfer into a Vaurca body and We could even make it a option for Vaurca who are living to hook themselves up to it an go in on the condition that they can only return to their own body

Edit: And I would say it would fall inbetween Roboticists and Scientist work? Maybe a Bio Engineer could handle it? or just a normal Scientist

[Skull132]

Here's my proposal, an idea I hashed out with a few coders.

Instead of having an empty VR space, why not make it possible for a living Vaurca to download the dead one? Keep in mind: Vaurca are programs, basically. So you could conceivably have more than one Vaurca program inhabit a singular body. Obviously the original owner would still control the body, but they could communicate (as if borer and host, except the host can also whisper to the borer) and so on. Idno, I think it'd be a unique mechanic, without being too snowflake, and it'd make sense within the lore.

Also, I kinda want them to be short a standard or even proper respawn mechanic. Dunno why, but I think it'd be neat? Maybe I just don't like the mindset that every race must have a respawn mechanic. I probably don't.

[SilverTalismen]

Well How could we go about this Skull? would we need a machine or somesort for this sort of thing?

[Skull132]

Since it's Vaurca tech interfaced with Vaurca tech, it might be as simple as one Vaurca taking some bit of the other (like the neural cortex whatever the fuck organ they have), and plugging it into their own.

[Conservatron]

you could make the vaurca 'brain' work like an implant, when targeted on the head of a vaurca it automatically inserts itself, and will detach on death.

maybe require robotics 'surgery' to open up a port or something and install the other vaurca program

[SilverTalismen]

Hmm yes but this would prolly rquire surgery on both Vaurca or some sort of machine to do it

[Lady_of_Ravens]

They already have sockets, so... Vaurca crossover cable?

[LordFowl]

I say don't bother with any VR consideration. Just make it so you have to order a new Vaurca shell, and then slot the cortex chip or what have you in there.

[TishinaStalker]

I'd say that if going with Fowl's suggestion, then place a limit on how many can be ordered in one shift. I remember Silver, I think, saying that the hives would get mad if they're just being thrown to the slaughter Since they take a lot of resources to make. Maybe a limit of five before it just seems like more than workplace accidents, and then seven or eight or so is where it's disabled; since I don't think we'll lose that many Vaurca in one shift. Just a thought, I think, in order to have a lore reason behind that.

[Killerhurtz]

I love both ideas, but Skull's in particular.

And if the "multiple mind in a single body" idea goes through, I'm totally getting a Vaurca whitelist just so that when I'm antag I can go around and steal the other vaurca brains

[Skull132]

Note, Tish. 5 is too much. If 5 Vaurca die, then it's probably emergency shuttle anyways. 1 to possibly 2 should be the limit in that case.

[SilverTalismen]

Note, Tish. 5 is too much. If 5 Vaurca die, then it's probably emergency shuttle anyways. 1 to possibly 2 should be the limit in that case.

I would say make it five, since Vaurca population has been going up, We could make it so the minds can be together, But then we can transfer them out into a ordered shell, That way if your killed twenty minutes into the round it isn't another hour forty of you being in another Vaurca unable to interact with anyone, ya know?

[Dreamix]

Aren't Vaurca the new Tajaran's? Expendable, some of them working for free, stupid, unsanitary, ugly bugs?

Just two, I'd say.