Quartermaster Standing

[LordPwner]

While in my few/many rounds as Quartermaster have been very nice, and actually some good respect, they're have been a few rounds where I as the Quartermaster, basically get told I'm just a child to someone on a lesser pay tier and ranking then I am, and their excuse is I am not a head of staff, but in all reality, it Seems the Quartermaster is the Head of Staff of Cargo, so I would like to purpose that the Quartermaster actually be a Head of Staff Role, since the Quartermaster runs his own Department, Has his own set of skills (Light Engineering. Management, Etc.) I believe it would make the Quartermaster role seem a bit more.. important and not just seen as a higher paid Cargo Tech. Please do tell me what you all think of this, and explain why you believe it should or shouldn't become a thing! Thank you!

[EvilBrage]

No. He's really just the warden of cargo, plus he doesn't (and shouldn't) have access to all of the things that the other heads of staff do. Shuttle calls, the bridge, etc. The only way you're going to command respect in-game is to earn it (or force it, depending on the character) out of people - and an arbitrary switch on the manifest isn't going to do anything to change that.

[Feorn]

If you want to be the real head of staff for cargo, just play Head of Personnel.

Otherwise, get in good with the Head of Personnel, so they'll discipline any cargo techs that aren't listening to you.

[LordPwner]

Its not Cargo Techs, its other people, Atmo Techs. Engineers in all reality, just being eh, and I have tried to command it, most of the time even in my own cargo bay, its kinda well, ignored by said Atmo Techs and Engineers that end up in my Cargo bay for really no reason, and nine times out of ten, they tell me "You're not a head of a staff so you have no power"

[incognitojesus]

Its not Cargo Techs, its other people, Atmo Techs. Engineers in all reality, just being eh, and I have tried to command it, most of the time even in my own cargo bay, its kinda well, ignored by said Atmo Techs and Engineers that end up in my Cargo bay for really no reason, and nine times out of ten, they tell me "You're not a head of a staff so you have no power"

 

Directly from the wiki:

You have up to three potential Cargo Technicians to help you redistribute things throughout the station. You also have authority over mining, and should try and coordinate the miners to meet the needs of the station.

 

You basically run cargo and mining, but you have a boss that is over you. You're not a head of staff, you're the person who keeps the sludge moving through the pipes. If other people don't respect you, that's really a fault on your character. If somebody won't listen to you because you're a head of staff, bring it up to your supervisor (Head of Personnel). Otherwise, suck it up. I don't see making the quartermaster a head of staff fixing anything, because nothing is broken.

[LordPwner]

Its not Cargo Techs, its other people, Atmo Techs. Engineers in all reality, just being eh, and I have tried to command it, most of the time even in my own cargo bay, its kinda well, ignored by said Atmo Techs and Engineers that end up in my Cargo bay for really no reason, and nine times out of ten, they tell me "You're not a head of a staff so you have no power"

 

Directly from the wiki:

You have up to three potential Cargo Technicians to help you redistribute things throughout the station. You also have authority over mining, and should try and coordinate the miners to meet the needs of the station.

 

You basically run cargo and mining, but you have a boss that is over you. You're not a head of staff, you're the person who keeps the sludge moving through the pipes. If other people don't respect you, that's really a fault on your character. If somebody won't listen to you because you're a head of staff, bring it up to your supervisor (Head of Personnel). Otherwise, suck it up. I don't see making the quartermaster a head of staff fixing anything, because nothing is broken.

 

Ok Thank you

[Zundy]

I thought the QM was in charge of the Cargo, not an offical head but they still have the capacity to tell you to get the fuck out of cargo if you're in there for no rasin?

Edit: Made my comment actually make sense...

Edited March 27, 2016 by Guest

[LordPwner]

I thought the QM was in charge of the Cargo, not an offical head but they still have the cpacity to get the fuck out of cargo if you're in there for no rasin?

 

I would believe so too, ya know since he/she/other alien race is the Quarter Master, and as the wiki says he is in charge of Cargo Techs and Miners. Inside the Cargo bay, *If not being a Head of Staff/Having proper reason, paperwork, orders from Head of Staff etc.* The Quartermaster still should be able to tell people to get out of his/her/other alien species' Cargo bay.

[Nanako]

I look at quartermasters with fear and distrust. They have a rather common tendancy to arm themselves and murder people

I sure don't want them being given anymore power than they already have, which is a lot

[Zundy]

I look at quartermasters with fear and distrust. They have a rather common tendancy to arm themselves and murder people

I sure don't want them being given anymore power than they already have, which is a lot

 

QM's are like Pit Bulls, they seems scary and aggressive but they're usually soft and loveable.

Support a QM today.

[LordPwner]

I look at quartermasters with fear and distrust. They have a rather common tendancy to arm themselves and murder people

I sure don't want them being given anymore power than they already have, which is a lot

 

QM's are like Pit Bulls, they seems scary and aggressive but they're usually soft and loveable.

Support a QM today.

 

Yeah I mean look at me, I'm Soft and loveable! And Quartermasters only arm if they are a antag

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

The Quartermaster is the manager of the cargo department. He is the assistant supervisor of cargo, with the Head of Personnel the one true emperor of Cargonia as King of Kings. The QM is trusted to oversee the department and handle the technicians and miners, who are expected to listen to him. In ideal situations the HoP relays how things should go on the supply channel and the QM handles the specifics.

Any competent Head of Personnel supports his competent Quartermaster. If technicians are being sassy or you're having trouble bringing them to hell, bring in the Head of Personnel. Flagrantly disregarding the QM is grounds for reassignment to custodial.

[LordPwner]

The Quartermaster is the manager of the cargo department. He is the assistant supervisor of cargo, with the Head of Personnel the one true emperor of Cargonia as King of Kings. The QM is trusted to oversee the department and handle the technicians and miners, who are expected to listen to him. In ideal situations the HoP relays how things should go on the supply channel and the QM handles the specifics.

Any competent Head of Personnel supports his competent Quartermaster. If technicians are being sassy or you're having trouble bringing them to hell, bring in the Head of Personnel. Flagrantly disregarding the QM is grounds for reassignment to custodial.

 

Again it is NOT CARGO TECHS OR SHAFT MINERS that are causing the issue, it is people entering Cargo and I'm telling them to leave and they blow me off and Ignore me, and 9 times out of 10, they just begin to go like "Ok make me" Kinda deal, so I just go away and when a Head of Personal is on it doesn't happen as much, it really happens when no HoP is on,

[Carver]

Its not Cargo Techs, its other people, Atmo Techs. Engineers in all reality, just being eh, and I have tried to command it, most of the time even in my own cargo bay, its kinda well, ignored by said Atmo Techs and Engineers that end up in my Cargo bay for really no reason, and nine times out of ten, they tell me "You're not a head of a staff so you have no power"

Again it is NOT CARGO TECHS OR SHAFT MINERS that are causing the issue, it is people entering Cargo and I'm telling them to leave and they blow me off and Ignore me, and 9 times out of 10, they just begin to go like "Ok make me" Kinda deal, so I just go away and when a Head of Personal is on it doesn't happen as much, it really happens when no HoP is on,

I have a very simple solution for your issue, call for Security. The local murderhappy lizard guards will be glad to slap your trespassing Engineers with full charges and ensure they don't mess with you ever again. It's very easy to get people to fuck off when they're under threat of sitting in the Brig for 10-30 minutes. You don't need head of staff permissions to be able to call for Sec. The QM isn't and should never be a head of staff, he's more like the manager at a fast food joint.