Zundy Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 All of that, Zundy, provided that what you're saying is not offensive, bigoted, etcetera in general. And no, the excuses of, "He's not really serious," and, "it's a meme," are not applicable in those instances. Yeah I'm concerned with the use of the term 'offensive' since that's usually an arbitrary opinion. What is the offical stance on what is 'offensive'?
Skull132 Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Yeah I'm concerned with the use of the term 'offensive' since that's usually an arbitrary opinion. What is the offical stance on what is 'offensive'? Hokay. This is going to be a bit of a long one, but heyo. I wholeheartedly recognize that the views of the community members here range from super conservative to super liberal. My intent is not to create an environment where one side is shot down by the other. As such, I am completely fine with opinionated discussion. If you do not like certain tendencies, or certain folk, then that's fine and not really my business. And if a discussion on such a topic is initiated, then you are fine to express your opinion on that matter in a civilized fashion. Should others not like it, then at that point, it is their own issue, and they need to understand that there are as many views on one issue as there are people in the world. Should your expression of opinion in a discussion turn hostile, however, that's a point where it has to end. If you stop respecting the fact that other folks have opinions that differ from yours, then you need to take a step back and pipe down. Examples to illustrate effective ruling: - This post, along with this one, was reported by a user as bigotry. In my opinion, as neither post is hostile nor outright disrespectful, they're completely fine. Recognize that people with opinions differing from your own exist, and learn to live with them. - Dropping a meme which very clearly references slavery and human trafficking will get you in trouble, however. To be completely honest, I'd rather everyone keep their shit to themselves to begin with. What you are, what you hate, what you like is your own thing and should probably be kept to yourself. But since my viewpoint is shared by a relatively small group, I'll run with what I wrote above instead. Another note to the dichotomy between the two extremes here is, both can act completely disrespectful towards the other side, and ideally, both will get put back in line as they stray. Extremes are godawful, and a lack of ability to remain respectful towards individuals purely because of their view on something dear/important to you is also, awful. ---- The other side to this is when we're discussing the critique of individuals. I don't want to, nor do I intend to create "bubbles" around individuals who need them. That does not work, and it will end in a loss at one point or another. If you try to whiteknight, you will simply lose more, at the end of the day. Everyone should be willing to accept critique, and to deal with it by simply being around here. However. Unless the person is completely fine and "in" on the joke, you should remain respectful of the individual you are talking about. Ragging on someone for no rhyme or reason, in a fashion that is disrespectful, even after they've requested you to stop (happened recently, oh goodie) should never be acceptable. ---- The TL;DR: be respectful. It isn't fucking rocket science, hooyah?
Zundy Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Sadly I'm still not fully clear on what is officially acceptable. We've kinda of moved in another obscure direction in the form of 'respect'. I'm not sure what that means. Sure I know what it means to me and I know the dictionary definition, bit what do we define that as here?/What would get me banned in OOC for example? I only ask in an attempt to once and for all hammer out a clear understanding of where the line is thst doesn't rely on the whim of the individual at the time. Perhaps a simple roleplay of a scenario would be good? It would make an excellent frame of reference for all and form a base for future rulings going forward so no one can get fanny flustered when the get ban-slapped because it would link to a solid foundation that isn't 'much feels'. It would assist the staff as much as the players...well we're all players but ya know.
Immortal_Starfish Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 We need a new prophet to tell us what's wrong, and why is everything burning. Or else the community may die, with nice people leaving.Or just Inverted. I miss him. LONG AGO IN A DISTANT LAND, I INVERTED_RECTUM, THE SHITPOSTING MASTER OF DARKNESS UNLEASHED AN UNSPEAKABLE EVIL! BUT A FOOLISH SSL WARRIOR STEPPED FORTH TO OPPOSE ME. BEFORE THE FINAL BLOW WAS STRUCK, I TORE OPEN A PORTAL IN TIME AND FLUNG HIM INTO REDDIT, WHERE MY EVIL IS LAW!
Guest Menown Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 We need a new prophet to tell us what's wrong, and why is everything burning. Or else the community may die, with nice people leaving.Or just Inverted. I miss him. LONG AGO IN A DISTANT LAND, I INVERTED_RECTUM, THE SHITPOSTING MASTER OF DARKNESS UNLEASHED AN UNSPEAKABLE EVIL! BUT A FOOLISH SSL WARRIOR STEPPED FORTH TO OPPOSE ME. BEFORE THE FINAL BLOW WAS STRUCK, I TORE OPEN A PORTAL IN TIME AND FLUNG HIM INTO REDDIT, WHERE MY EVIL IS LAW! And with the Messiah's return, I believe this discussion is over. Lock thread, pls.
Guest Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Finally, it's good to know that the rituals weren't a total waste of my time and money in preparing.
Dreamix Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 That's not Inverted, you dumb fucks. It's an impostor, calm down.
Immortal_Starfish Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 FOOL. IT IS INDEED I, THE SHOGUN OF FUNPOSTS, THE DELIVERER OF VICIOUS, VERBOSE DIARRHEA. HE WHO HAD BEEN WRONGLY DENIED HIS HEAD OF STAFF APPLICATION LIKE, THREE TIMES IN A ROW BECAUSE DEA TACITA DIDN'T LIKE ME BECAUSE I YELLED AT HER ONCE IN THAT LORE ARGUMENT ABOUT IPCS NOT BEING ALLOWED TO BE HEADS. WHICH I AM STILL MAD ABOUT. I DIDN'T EVEN WANT THE WHITELIST PROPERLY, TO BE HONEST I WAS REALLY JUST DOING IT BECAUSE PEOPLE TOLD ME NOT TO DO THAT. DEA YOU'RE NOT EVEN DYING OF SUPER-CANCER. YOU AWFUL PERSON. I KNOW ALL ABOUT YOUR AWFUL SECRET.
TishinaStalker Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 Yeah, just gonna lock this now. Since everything that needed to be said has been. Safe travels, Mikalhvi.
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