[Inactive]Staff Complaint: CakeisOssim

[Skull132]

It's only worse off when it's spotted moving there.

For the third sodding time: you're relying on power from magical SMES that never run out. This makes the spot very easy prepare and move to, in comparison to any other spot off the station. On principle, this is questionable to me. The specific scenario is almost irrelevant here to the actual issue of, is this a legitimate play, or should we force malfs to take more time by going through the actual steps to setting up a new safe haven for themselves?

[Guest]

Why does it matter

Why do you people try so hard to make issues out of these things

[Skull132]

Well, there are roughly two points here.

First, is the AI permitted to be moved off station?

Second, is it alright to use the TComms satellite (and its magical SMES) for activities that clearly benefit from the energy security they provide?

The first question will shape the way enforcement of AI specific shenanigans is handled, while the second will shape the way the magical SMES and their utilization is looked upon. It is specifically the latter question that has never been answered by a higher authority, as far as I'm aware. Hence my raising that for review.

Why does it matter? Why do any of these questions matter? Why are these questions even asked? In the case of the first question, it was asked because a member of the community was displeased with the currently established rules of enforcement. The latter, because, again, it's not need answered properly yet ever.

[Snoopy11]

Draining the AI of power isn't necessarily a strategy that would work on the station either, as the AI has it's own smes. It would involve either cutting a specific wire, or disabling the command smes completely. The benefit that Tcom provides, is it stops engineering from emitter drilling in from either side of the commandstation, which is very, very common.

Tcom also has a many arrays of solars, that could be mapped to work for power, but I'm going to make an assumption and say a magical generator was put it to reduce the load of the solars having to track the sun position, get power, continuously calculate positions, etcetra.

[Skull132]

Yes, but power is a challenge a borg/AI team has to face to a greater degree if they want to move to anyplace other than TComms. That's my point: using TComms is made easier by the presence of a meta-hack. Had this complaint been about using the engineering sat, for example, or the asteroid (both of which have been done by other AIs in the past), I'd have walked along past this issue.

But I want to know what the madmins think about the infinite power thing.

[Guest]

From what was stated in the thread and the specific location that the AI was being kept, it looked as though that the ability of having your position completely unknown was the intention of the move.

Energy security is a huge plus but I don't know if that factored into the decision. Being put into a cozy crawlspace that wouldn't have been thought over twice was easily the priority.

Whether this is balanced is something that can be adjusted. E.g. making it so that telecomms actually draws from the solars and not complete magic.

Bravo for the antags in working together, at least. It's not abuse of game mechanics, it's utilizing them in a manner that does make sense but has its own risk attached to it if it isn't orchestrated correctly.

[DatBerry]

Seeing as how you can see the extra drain on SMESs all over the station, outposts and the sat, you can tell the general location of the AI or the general location of your EMP bombardment if it came to that.

Not to mention blowing up a cyborg and questioning the posibrain, all posibrains have a default directive of helping the station crew.

So i don't think the part about the AI being hidden in unreachable places or having no way to figure out is that valid.

Only issue left is the magic power SMES, an easy and fast fix would be making the SMES barely output enough to keep the sat going, let alone handle a super computer.

[Shadow]

This complaint was in OCT now its FEB. RIP.

Archiving.