[Accepted] Reyjakai Science Unban Request

[Reyjakai]

BYOND Key: Reyjakai

Total Ban Length: Indefinite.

Banning staff member's Key: I think it might have been Tish, not 100% sure. It was a consensus thing.

Reason of Ban: Being a really, really good powergamer.

Reason for Appeal: I've given up the hard life and recanted this life of crime. Also Garn recommended that I appeal it.

[Jennalele]

Not gonna lie. The minimalistic and non-apologetic attitude you seem to be carrying about this does not put you off on a good start, at all. These appeals are meant to convince us that you've changed and are willing to work with us to prevent those mistakes from happening again. What I'm seeing off the bat really doesn't help your case. I mean. Reason of ban: "Being a really, really good powergamer." Really? That doesn't seem like you're very sorry for whats happened in the past, or that you really care all that much about this appeal.

Try again.

[Garnascus]

Your original ban was indeed placed by tishinastalker. The character complaint is in our archives, although i believe it was just the last straw https://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=3955 . Essentially your character had a large history of both cherrypicking skills and chasing down antags. Sure there may be details here and there that you are in the right on. Do you understand that your behavior was absolutely unacceptable?

I will ping tish for his input since he handled your case.

[Reyjakai]

Not gonna lie. The minimalistic and non-apologetic attitude you seem to be carrying about this does not put you off on a good start, at all. These appeals are meant to convince us that you've changed and are willing to work with us to prevent those mistakes from happening again. What I'm seeing off the bat really doesn't help your case. I mean. Reason of ban: "Being a really, really good powergamer." Really? That doesn't seem like you're very sorry for whats happened in the past, or that you really care all that much about this appeal.

Try again.

I don't see a huge need to unnecessarily fluff up my unban request. Also, what should I have said the reason for my ban was? Shooting the rogue AI too many times with research weaponry? That's powergaming, effectively. I talked to a lot of people back when I got banned and still don't really know the full reason that I was banned, other than having a half dozen complaints over the span of a year and those last incidents being the final straw. There was that ridiculous situation that started over me breaking into the AI's chamber because I thought ICly that it was rogue. That somehow got lasting repercussions over a miscommunication, and nobody really cared to talk to me about it back then.

[Scheveningen]

Er, try again. You weren't banned for a single incident. You don't recall your own long-time spread history of science powergaming, antagonist validhunting, the infamous "combat mode activated" meme and the slew of other antithetical nonsense that proved to be more damaging to roleplay than beneficial? Five individual warnings for powergaming and ramboing. Can Tish drop by to confirm in what period of time those were accrued sequentially? https://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=3955#p39144

The DOs attempted to correct your behavior.

You overrode it with excuses and attempting to loophole around them. Twice. IC administration failed to stop you from clicking antagonists horizontal and ruthlessly murdering and bulldozing antagonists in your path, oft more than not catching innocents into the crossfire due to your characters bloodlust.

You were such an issue that server staff could not do anything to get you to stop besides outright banning you from playing your every-woman Shell protagonista syndrome character. You put the reputation of Shells to utter shame and spat upon the efforts of Jack_fractal's original intention for shells.

Baka could not have put it any better: https://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=3955&start=20#p40555

"Snowflake" would not even begin to describe such horror that was witnessed a year and a half ago.

And you return again still playing IPC-Shell Katelynn Mcmullen as a shaft miner, expecting that the ban will be easy to lift because of staff line-up changing and so much time passing since the ban?

And you're acting like you do not even recall what you did wrong to warrant being permanently banned from the science department. How you didn't get permanently banned from the server itself for that nonsense is a testament to the patience of Baka and Tishina, I'd certainly wager.

Even if you had drafted this job ban appeal with remorseful language saying that you'd changed and would do better than last time, I'd still be very wary and suspicious about the idea of appealing to get your absolutely awful character back into the reigns of doing the same crap again.

You don't seem all that sorry, though.

[Reyjakai]

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Again, I'm not sure what good grovelling is going to do. I'm more than happy to discuss this with anybody, but nobody has been willing to actually talk with me about it.

My warnings that I could actually see were a grant total of 2. I think there were an additional 4 or 5 after that. A few of those weren't important enough, or were later removed due to my character acting reasonably in the situation. If you care to check, The actual science powergaming incidences happened WAY at the beginning of when I started playing on this station, I think nearly a year before I got banned from science. I cleaned my act up a lot from that time and got better as a player. What actually caused me to get banned were incidents way after that, and not at all related.

What baka brought up wasn't me maliciously rigging my shell to gas people that attacked me, it was me as a player trying to find out the extent of the game. Name me one time where I actually used any of that stuff to powergame, or to even affect other players in the game? As for the DO action, I'm more than happy to chat with everybody involved about that, as the cause of that was ridiculous. Nobody cares about what actually happened there, though. They only care what makes them look good and what best fits their narrative.

HOWEVER, I'll definitely condede that Kate is one hell of a snowflake character. I keep playing the character because I enjoy playing them. Ironically, I doubt any single person that's ever played the server can list a single time where I attacked anybody with that ridiculous combat mode thing, as dumb as it was. That I can definitely admit to.

Also, don't blame me for what happens to shells. I don't control their fate, and I never have. If jack got any flak over that, that's on all of you, not on me or him. I did talk with him a while back about shells as well as during the DO action. That's when I thought reasoning with people OOC was possible. Jackboot didn't give a shit and still does. He never even talked to me about it OOC. I had to go over his head and chat with one of the admins to even get someone to listen to me. I still haven't ever had a conversation with baka or tish directly about what happened, and have barely even had a chance to tell my side about any of this.

As for the staff change, I didn't even know there was a staff change, or who the current staff members are. I never have cared, and I never will care. I submitted this because Garn recommended that I do so. I told them that it likely wouldn't change anything or be worth it, but here we are, bringing all sorts of unnecessary things up again.

In my defense, what is the RD supposed to do when the AI is rogue and the Captain and all of security have suicided on the rogue AI? I'd love to have a good answer to this question.

Edit: Also if anybody else wants to pitch in, I'd rather lay everything out now than have to deal with it later.

[TishinaStalker]

In my defense, what is the RD supposed to do when the AI is rogue and the Captain and all of security have suicided on the rogue AI? I'd love to have a good answer to this question.

 

I'd love to give you an answer to that, but I can't remember all the fine details as to why, and I don't particularly want to go trudging through thousands of messages with Baka on Skype. I'll try to see if I can find it later, and if I do, then I will bring it up to you for discussion.

 

How you didn't get permanently banned from the server itself for that nonsense is a testament to the patience of Baka and Tishina, I'd certainly wager.

 

And, sadly, I still have near infinite patience. Since you've started to become more active on server, I'd prefer to give you a chance to show that you've learned from past mistakes. I'm willing to unban you from science, Rey, but if I ever hear about powergaming and hunting down antags as a scientist, then I'm only going to issue a single warning on it, and in the second event this permanent job ban is being placed again. I know we won't be having any issues from here on out because I do trust the fact that you've applied what you've learned, but the line has to be drawn in the sand. All I need you to do now is answer Garn's question before I move ahead with anything.

 

Do you understand that your behavior was absolutely unacceptable?

[Reyjakai]

I'd love to give you an answer to that, but I can't remember all the fine details as to why, and I don't particularly want to go trudging through thousands of messages with Baka on Skype. I'll try to see if I can find it later, and if I do, then I will bring it up to you for discussion.

 

That would be a good discussion to have. My primary problem with how that entire thing was handled was that nobody cared to talk to me directly about it, especially OOC. I ended up looking like a complete ass, and everybody else were just hapless victims of my malice, apparently.

 

And, sadly, I still have near infinite patience. Since you've started to become more active on server, I'd prefer to give you a chance to show that you've learned from past mistakes. I'm willing to unban you from science, Rey, but if I ever hear about powergaming and hunting down antags as a scientist, then I'm only going to issue a single warning on it, and in the second event this permanent job ban is being placed again. I know we won't be having any issues from here on out because I do trust the fact that you've applied what you've learned, but the line has to be drawn in the sand. All I need you to do now is answer Garn's question before I move ahead with anything.

 

Not sure whether it's a sign of weakness or strength, but this is the first indication (Other than when I was chatting with Doom back around when it happened. I would have never come back if not for talking with him) that anybody actually cares at all. And not just because you're willing to do something about it, but because every indication that I've gotten from admins/heads/DO is that everybody is looking for an excuse to get me banned as quickly as possible. I'm still not sure why you guys didn't just ban me back then.

And in my defense, antag hunting as a scientist happened when I first joined the server. It was way, way long ago. Almost a year before my ban, I think. Maybe closer to six months, I'm not entirely sure. I was way different then, which is also why I was so confused that those warnings were taken into account. This isn't talking about those two rounds that happened right after, where I had to deal with malf AI two rounds in a row as the lone RD after security and the captain all suicided on the AI and cyborgs. That goes back to the top question as to what the job of the acting Captain is. Abandon the station when malf is in control? Muster the remaining crew and fight back? It's a legitimate question, and everybody just decided "That's not valid, fuck Reyjakai." Or at least that's how I've seen it to this point.

I've even gotten some comments recently, see earlier in this thread, that my character somehow destroyed the good image of shells, as if they ever had a good image to begin with. Are people really comparing my obnoxious antics as my snowflake shell to robot security before synths were nerfed into the ground? Please.

 

Do you understand that your behavior was absolutely unacceptable?

Yes, I do. And I really do want to talk about the stuff that happened back in the day. I'm not a huge fan of leaving things unfinished in the past. Clearly there's a certain amount of animosity towards me from the community. I'm not looking to be everybody's friend, but I'd prefer any grievances to be addressed openly and honestly.

[TishinaStalker]

Awesome! I do hope this will all be for the better then. I'll lift the ban and archive the appeal in 24 hours in case any staff wish to contest my decision.

[TishinaStalker]

Could've sworn I posted this on Sunday. My bad. Ban lifted.