sonicgotnuked Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) A discussion about loyalty implants Loyalty implants, the thing that you will end up with if CCIA are evil, command is oppressive and throwing them in skulls, or you just end up with one inside you. This is a question discussion forum I have made to discuss one of the most important things, but no one knows what the fuck they do correctly. All everyone knows is that it MAKES YOU AH SLAVE TO THAT EVIL CORP or just something to make sure you follow your boss. On a mechanical standpoint, loyalty implants have one job, and this is one of the main reasons why they are in the game. Loyalty implants will block you from becoming on-station antags except for head loyalist. This was added because a traitor captain/HoS would be extremely powerful antags. [*]How does a loyalty implant function in someone, how do they think/act when it is active inside their skull?[*]Why do you think NT implants their high ranking personnel? [*]Are loyalty implants even legal for NT to place inside their high ranking personnel? [*]Do loyalty implants enslave people to the corporation? If so, why? [*]What happens to a implant when someone goes home, or plays a different job that does not have the loyalty implant? [*]How can loyalty implants be improved? [*]Should we keep loyalty implants inside the server? Keep in mind that loyalty implants where a original thing for low RP servers to block antag status from jobs that can gank with no opposition or resistance against it. All people are bound to the rules for antags, ganking is a OOC rule violation and will get you a bwoink. Edited May 4, 2017 by Guest Quote
Chada1 Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 How does a loyalty implant function in someone, how do they think/act when it is active inside their skull?: In the benefit of the company. If what they are doing is going against the interests of NanoTrasen, the Loyalty Implant would not allow it, assuming it was working correctly, which they have been said to sometimes malfunction, but it just sounds like a reason to justify misplay. It is one that's backed by Lore, as seen in some News articles, I think the most recent was a CCIA intern leaking documents. Why do you think NT implants their high ranking personnel?: Insurance and as an investment. It gives them the ability to rely on you, and they only allow those they trust to have the skills into the positions that require it. It is a way for them to truly count on their essential Staff. Are loyalty implants even legal for NT to place inside their high ranking personnel?: Yes, with consenting proof. Do loyalty implants enslave people to the corporation? If so, why?: No, you sign a contract before it can even be put in. Slavery is enforced Servitude. You made your choice, it is not stripping your freedom away. Forced implants would be. What happens to a implant when someone goes home, or plays a different job that does not have the loyalty implant?: Depends on the player. If they were demoted, it was Surgically removed. If they were only off-duty, it's just disabled in their skull until the next shift. How can loyalty implants be improved?: Clearly defining their purpose, so people can play around it, as opposed to having it mean absolutely nothing and people getting punished for it at some points, without knowing what it even means. Should we keep loyalty implants inside the server?: Yes, they are necessary to maintain balance and too important of a thing in our Lore to just remove. Quote
Scheveningen Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 Warning: opinions. How does a loyalty implant function in someone, how do they think/act when it is active inside their skull? I've always treated it as a device that doesn't necessarily force loyalty but it excretes certain chemical solutions in the brain when the chip receives information regarding a complex issue in regards to what to do. A little positive reinforcement here, a pinch there to avoid a not ideal thought process from going through, and a twitch in the facial musculature to signal that the chip did its job in influencing the person in making the right decision for the corporation. Why do you think NT implants their high ranking personnel? Accountability, with a curious science side at the same time. Loyalty implants aren't worthless hunks of metal to just force subservience, to me. They're data storage devices. They record every decision made while the implant was active and made note of any specific algorithmic changes in an implanted person's thinking patterns when confronted with a complex scenario. This helps the company get feedback results and endeavor to improve their current models of implants to be more effective. Are loyalty implants even legal for NT to place inside their high ranking personnel? The implanted persons agreed to be chipped upon signing both the additional forms for non-disclosure and avowal of a certain privacy. It is technically legal if both parties are consenting business figures. Do loyalty implants enslave people to the corporation? If so, why? Yes and no. It binds them to make the decisions to follow the ideals of the corporation. But it doesn't strip their personhood and most of their positive traits as a person, because otherwise it would make for ineffective leadership when you cannot either relate to a leader or even want to listen to a literal corporate drone. Some cases are more extreme and certain people's emotions are more greatly suppressed than others on purpose to avoid worst-case scenarios. Some chips make people drones, others don't. There's no right answer so people can choose to RP how they wish while implanted. Those who are not as adjusted as those who get one switched on every day before they start a shift, though? Hm. No idea, really. It would require significant fortitude to adjust well to a loyalty implant on your first time. What happens to a implant when someone goes home, or plays a different job that does not have the loyalty implant? Depends on their arrangement with the corporation. Some are permanently implanted due to the sensitivity of their job. Others get theirs removed or deactivated. Usually removed I would imagine, considering they carry valuable data on their person and it's one of the few reasons why some people don't leak corporate secrets, in my opinion. People just mysteriously forget about sensitive information upon their implant being deactivated, perhaps to avoid employees being kidnapped by competition or to prevent defectors. As for the other two questions, I dunno, really, I can deal with it as of now. Quote
Fire and Glory Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 Oh boy we're doing this thing again How does a loyalty implant function in someone, how do they think/act when it is active inside their skull?It stops you from doing anything that you think Nanotrasen would not want you to do, as in if you try to do that thing, you just won't do it, your arm won't reach for that gun to shoot the CCIA, you won't stop walking on your way to an emergency to have an hour long conversation with your lesbian friends, etcetera. An important thing here is what you think Nanotrasen doesn't (or does) want you to do, if you've gone bonkers from one thing or another and you have a loyalty implant, you could still blow a hole in the station if you think Nanotrasen wants you to because of some insane line of logic. You're still allowed to pass the time and talk to someone about something unimportant, because NT doesn't want you to be a constantly working robot because someone'd probably complain, but there is a cutoff point. Why do you think NT implants their high ranking personnel? Corporate espionage is ApparentlyTM a big problem these days, and thus precautions are taken. Since someone who's a Head of Staff like the Head of Security is obviously invested in your company already, and they would have to be motivated to consent to a loyalty implant anyway, it's a save enough extra layer of security. Do loyalty implants enslave people to the corporation? If so, why? Ish. Implanted or not, you still have a contract, that contract can still be ended. So it's not like it's a life of eternal servitude to Nanotrasen. I would assume that something or other would happen when the loyalty implanted individual is not working, either it turns off, gets removed, tuned down, etcetera. To the point that they're not always considering Nanotrasen when not working. Buuuuuut, if you find out that it is Nanotrasen's will for you to eat babies while the implant is going, or, hell, for some reason Nanotrasen has decided that you are now a slave to them, you're gonna do it. You'll also probably go insane to one degree or another after that, good fun. What happens to a implant when someone goes home, or plays a different job that does not have the loyalty implant? I've already answered this more or less. How can loyalty implants be improved? If people were all on the same page about what they do, that'd be fun. Should we keep loyalty implants inside the server? I don't really care much, the salt they make does get annoying. Quote
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