[Rescinded] Reyntime13's IPC application

[ReynTheLord]

BYOND Key: ReynTime13

Character Names: Cliff whitter, Faith basinger, Betheny cherry,Wendi Bunten, Brooklynn wilson.

Species you are applying to play: IPC (Baseline)

What color do you plan on making your first alien character (Dionaea & IPCs exempt): Ipcs are exempt

Have you read our lore section's page on this species?: Yes

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Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph format. One paragraph minimum per question

Why do you wish to play this specific race:

This race is quite interesting, holding quite a different style of play on the server both for mechanics and roleplay. The robotic nature of this race leads to quite a different view on life, and their status of not having much of a culture makes them easier to roleplay.Their history is quite interesting, and playing one would be enjoyable.

Identify what makes role-playing this species different than role-playing a Human: IPCs are mechanical, therefore they don't feel pain, and they don't have the same requirements to live as humans do. Their lack of culture makes them able to be more open to interpretation than other races, leveling out with human, they have interesting mechanics, would have different social interactions than humans, they aren't as respected as humans when it comes to job opritunites, and overall, they're machines.

 

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Character Name: DATEN

Please provide a short backstory for this character, approximately 2 paragraphs

DATEN was programmed to excel in the fields of law, as a "One unit riot squad", as his manufacturers called them. Created to be inteligent when it comes to combat, arrests, intimidation and negotiation, along with programing in use of equipment a security officer might use in any situation, They were sold to nanotrasen as a security machine as the start of a trade deal.

DATEN went through security training for the sake of formality, and was taught the entirety of corporate regulations. After detaining an entire group of rioters singlehandedly, thanks to taking full advantage of their capabilities as an IPC, they were granted free will, and were transfered to the Aurora station, and are planned to be transfered to another station soon.

What do you like about this character?

We don't see enough of the ipcs in security, and what better way to validate an ipc in security than to have one DESIGNED for security! It would be quite interesting to see the interactions present in such a job

How would you rate your role-playing ability?

High medium to Quite high

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Notes:

Edited July 6, 2017 by Guest

[NoahKirchner]

Your IPC is... able to do literally every single job?

[ReynTheLord]

Your IPC is... able to do literally every single job?

Not cargo, nor detective, basically one job from each division, excluding cargo and some other minor divisions

So basically, scientist, bartender, security officer, engineer and medic are my roles

And any time i say division, i mean department, sorry, mixed terminology

[NoahKirchner]

Your IPC is... able to do literally every single job?

Not cargo, nor detective, basically one job from each division, excluding cargo and some other minor divisions

So basically, scientist, bartender, security officer, engineer and medic are my roles

And any time i say division, i mean department, sorry, mixed terminology

 

..... Have you read the rules?

[ReynTheLord]

I'm revisioning the character backstory and skillset, hold

[ReynTheLord]

changes complete

[Pratepresidenten]

I cant say that Ive really had any pleasant encounters with you in an icly or oocly setting. I would suggest that you improve your conduct some before applying for a whitelist.

[Muncorn]

I'm going to preface this breakdown quite simply. I've seen several of your characters around in both an IC and OOC perspective, and no matter what I have quite cleanly despised them. Whittier has caused a good deal of OOC trouble in the past as you full well know, and IC is a pain to even listen to, much less work with. Cherry is the epitomy of stereotypical "I'm a security gal" and Basinger; despite me not remembering anything about them; just makes me feel off by remembering the name. But, I'll digress onto the actual breakdown, though it's not going to be any more pleasent.

Your reason for wanting to play the race is a bland as it gets, and something we've seen a thousand times before. There's nothing standing out saying you'll be outstanding in the species RP or anything of the kind, and from experience with others that have said much the same as you have here, you'll simply either play the race very rarely, or play it all the time and make everybody hate your characters, and that's presuming this gets accepted.

Your explanation of the differences in roleplay is essentially a direct rip from what it says on the front wiki page on them and does nothing to show me your understand the nuances to their being. You say nothing of their different modes of thinking, the way they process morals differences, their limitations and advantages compared to humans or even other species, or even the more direct interactions between species.

The character:

Cons:

- I'm going to make the presumption this is an Industrial IPC, as you make no reference to what kind of model it actually is. If it's not an Industrial however, it brings up a whole other load of problems.

- Who are his manufacturers? This can make a large difference both to yourself and to those roleplaying with you, simply waving off whoever built the model is simply lazy and in utter bad form.

- What makes this unit different than the other thousands of security designated IPC's out there? Simply saying he was 'made to be intelligent in these regards' does nothing to tell us what this units capabilities and limits are, all it tells us is that the only thought you've put into this is 'I wanna play an IPC and have an excuse to powergame'. It's just disappointing.

- "Sold to NanoTrasen as a security machine as the start of a trade deal". Ignoring the horrific wording of this, what trade deal? What are the exacts of it, what else is going on in regards to it? You could've just said the unit was sold to NanoTrasen, or even rented, and be done with it, but instead you decide to make it some trade deal for no discernable reason?

- "DATEN went through security training for the sake of formality". This is yet again showing me you don't understand at all how IPC's actually function and think, however this isn't a fairly commonly known one so it's actually not all that bad. As much as IPC's can be programmed and instantly taught skills, doing so is difficult and expensive, so what will generally happen is they are given basics and then actually taught the rest, as nearly all positronic units will have the capability to learn, and at a much higher rate than humans. So you may want to take that into account.

- Detaining a group of rioters singlehandedly... I'm not even going to bother going through the multitude of reasons this is stupid, if you can't realise it yourself I'll start questioning your ability to play security as a whole, much less IPC.

- Also, they detained a group of rioters whilst working with NanoTrasen? Where? When? Did they work at a NanoTrasen facility before the station? What was the riot about, what was the outcome of it? You have too many points here that have no detail in them or are simply glossed over as irrelevant for no reason, it's simply stupid.

- They were granted free will? I don't know what you mean by that, and I don't even think you do. Free will implies one of two things in this scenario: 1; They are able to think freely and openly compared to linear though, which while that's quite normal you imply that this free will was granted newly upon being given to NanoTrasen. 2; They were granted actual legal freedom, but this contradicts yourself when you say they were sold (or traded, as you so put it) to NanoTrasen, so yet again makes no sense. It just looks like you bunged the term in there because you knew it was getting discussed with synths a lot so you thought it might help you along.

Pros:

- I'm not even gonna lie, there aren't any.

I've been playing SS13 for nearly 3 years, all on HRP and have proven myself to be one of the most stable roleplayers on the server, and I'll still only rate myself as a 7-8/10 at roleplaying. Don't overexaggurate yourself, it makes you look worse.

[DatBerry]

There isn't much left to post after muncorn's reply.

but i'd like to add some points:

we do have just about enough ipc security, their balance is different than humans and a robot officer could singlw handedly ruin an antag round, most of our current IPC officers roleplay well and are very well rounded characters (not abusing being a robot to increase knowledge as an example).

but your detective slash officer whitt is a loose canon, and I'm not sure if it's his quirk or you generally don't know regulations but he grazes them and breaks them at times.

an IPC officer that is a loose canon that breaks regulations is not something i'd like to see around, and you don't have any other security members that can convince me you can do otherwise.

[ReynTheLord]

There isn't much left to post after muncorn's reply.

but i'd like to add some points:

we do have just about enough ipc security, their balance is different than humans and a robot officer could singlw handedly ruin an antag round, most of our current IPC officers roleplay well and are very well rounded characters (not abusing being a robot to increase knowledge as an example).

but your detective slash officer whitt is a loose canon, and I'm not sure if it's his quirk or you generally don't know regulations but he grazes them and breaks them at times.

an IPC officer that is a loose canon that breaks regulations is not something i'd like to see around, and you don't have any other security members that can convince me you can do otherwise.

Trying to work on fixing the loose cannon part

[ReynTheLord]

You know what, delete this application, I'll be making a new one for a certain reason anyways

[CakeIsOssim]

Application rescinded.