[Denied] DaBurs Unban Appeal

[DaBurs]

BYOND Key: DaBurs

Total Ban Length: Perm

Banning staff member's Key: schieveingen

Reason of Ban: "Cluster bombing"

Reason for Appeal: As I asked, and got full permission before bombing where I did by Garnascus I feel this ban should be lifted immediately. It was not 'mindless' as scheveningen put it, and I was coordinating with another changeling to take full advantage of the situation the bombs put people in- as I was told I was allowed to. There were no casualties from my bombs either.

[Garnascus]

you did NOT get full permission for bombing man. You asked me where did disposals lead and i told you it leads to the trash compactor below the janitors closet. That is an area that is largely out of the way and should have been fine to bomb. You bombed the brig entrace, the library and maintenance near engineering storage. You completely ruined the round and caused a large amount of people to die due to low pressure.

[DaBurs]

I asked and re-asked if it was okay to bomb places where people where and I thought we were all cool with it. Alber gave me the greenlight to bomb areas where no people were occupying, like the library and the janitor garbage dump- and I detonated the bomb by the bridge because I was corned by security, but I did it knowing that I'd live and they could escape wounded, which they did, I did it to take suspicion from the other changeling in the round.

And they weren't all detonated at the same time spontaneously, I purposely staggered them to not lag the server and I purposely made them weaker than I could have to not cause extreme, massive collateral damage. I also announced ICly multiple times in changeling hivechat before I began the bombing, that I was going to start the bombings. So I'm sorry a couple of people died to low pressure, but if I really meant for the bombs to be used for a casualty count it would have been many people dying to being gibbed- and more than just three bombs going off.

[Garnascus]

And they weren't all detonated at the same time spontaneously, I purposely staggered them to not lag the server and I purposely made them weaker than I could have to not cause extreme, massive collateral damage.

 

The point i am making is you DID cause extreme collateral damage. You are responsible for that. Nearly the entirety of the middle level was vented. If you had just left it with the one bomb near engineering to get people scared that would have been fine. Three bombs is going to ruin the round regardless of how much you stagger them.

[DaBurs]

Okay, I accept responsibility for that- hindsight is 20/20 and one bomb could have gotten the message across, but still when I asked if it was okay to place bombs around I used the plural, and nobody told me I should limit myself to one.I'm sorry I caused a shitshow but it was definitely in part by the misconceptions and miscommunications I got in answers to my ahelp queries. I mean, give me some credit there, at least I actually talked to a few different admins about it before I went on to do it.

[Garnascus]

We will see what delta thinks when he wakes up.

[Scheveningen]

I'm disinclined to acquiesce given the amount of times we (as in, the team) have attempted this song and dance before with you.

1. You get told to tone down the amount of egregious over-escalation as an antagonist or not, and you claim to understand and agree to this.

2. You end up skipping rope with the line of acceptability we set and get confused when we reprimand or ban you.

3. You give half-hearted apologies and claim your course of action was fine because 'another admin told you so.'

I will need a better reason than what I've already read in order to unban you. I would rather not have to deal with this sort of thing again if it becomes a waste of time and also causes a single individual to ruin an entire round again as a result of the stupid conditions you caused directly.

[DaBurs]

Holy cow, I've never read a response more verbose than that. Try less, Scheveningen, the administration team is surely already impressed. I personally considered filing a staff report against you for grievously misbanning and abusing power, but I reconsidered because I knew it would be pointless.

I'm going to continue to wait for replies from more people on the administration team and get their input, although I appreciate yours.

[Scheveningen]

Since it's my ban, actually, I reserve the right to either accept it or deny it. Your attitude was expected and that's all I really needed to make a decision here.

So it's denied.

[Faris]

Holy cow, I've never read a response more verbose than that. Try less, Scheveningen, the administration team is surely already impressed. I personally considered filing a staff report against you for grievously misbanning and abusing power, but I reconsidered because I knew it would be pointless.

I'm going to continue to wait for replies from more people on the administration team and get their input, although I appreciate yours.

 

He's responsible over your ban appeal as the staff member that applied this ban. A ban appeal implies you understand your mistake and are asking for another chance. A staff complaint means you disagree with their judgement and want it investigated by someone else.