[Accepted] Coalf's Dionaea Application

[Coalf]

BYOND Key: Coalf

Character Names: Katya Al-Tahara, Dane Huey, Scoop, Patrick Huey, Elwood Hoover, PES

Species you are applying to play: Dionaea

What color do you plan on making your first alien character (Dionaea & IPCs exempt): Green

Have you read our lore section's page on this species?: Yes

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Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph format. One paragraph minimum per question

Why do you wish to play this specific race:

Frankly until recently I considered Dionaea a low-tier RP garbage with gimmicky characters and no real impact on the station, so I'd like to see if I'm wrong.

Secondly, I've been given an opportunity to play a dionaea already as a merc player (A dion) had to leave, the issue was they have captured a player as a prisoners and it would be stupidly unfair to the player to simply remain stuck in a cell for the whole round. I tried to fetch someone with a whitelist at first in deadchat but nobody was available, thus holding the wiki in one hand and taking advice from another dionea player off-of discord who was not present in game I started to act and quite frankly I very much enjoyed the slower paced yet still intelligently gifted tree gameplay.

Identify what makes role-playing this species different than role-playing a Human:

Of course I could list all the gameplay differences for easy goodboi credits but I find that pointless, so I'll give my thoughts.

The same thing that makes IPCs different from Humans, no real history.

But unlike IPCs a lot of the things that really shape Dindin's are mechanically enforced or atleast easily spotted by other players, making it much harder for Treeboi whitelisters to break their own whitelist rules and make characters that are too far from the intended idea of the species.

Aditionally the mindset itself is interesting, while humans would consider something logical and automatically assumed it might be quite different for a dionea, yet their intelligence allows them to symphathize quite a lot with humans but not really emphathize.

 

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Character Name: Weak Should Fear Strong

Please provide a short backstory for this character, approximately 2 paragraphs

Weak Should Fear The Strong(WSFTS from now on) awoke for the first time, in a Xenofloral Exhibition, WSFTS didn't move because it didn't have to, it was warm, bright and from time to time small critters were thrown into its glassy home to be crushed and devouvered. However it had insatiable curiosity that could not be easily quenched.

But the owner was quite strict and the first few years were spent inside that prison, watching and listening, waiting as unlike other Nymphs WSFTS had to learn alone through simple observation, not consumption.

It learned many things in is prison, or well it thought it was many things, for example Basic, Gutter, The use of basic household appliances, Rat Anatomy, Who won the Ultrabowl last night and that the owner snipped parts of plants for his own use such as eating, smoking and injecting, but there was one lesson that stuck above all.

While WSFTS was vivisecting the new creature that was thrown to it, it witnessed a human boy take vast interest in it. Suddenly the light went out, it was confused and scared, then it went back on, everything was okay, light off, scared, light on okay, light off, light on, light off, light on, yell.

Someone yelled at the boy to stop, another human this one with longer hair, the larger human pushed the new one down and kicked it in the face two more rushed in much taller than the little one, effortleslly they dragged him off and the larger one started beating the smaller one, this interested WSFTS and shaped its whole life.

A few weeks later WSFTS broke the lightbulb in its tray by unscrewing the bulb and cutting the ever small pieces inside it then screwing it back on, for the tenth time.

It had learned that if it stays in one place and doesn't move, the owner won't have the need to restrain it, again it waited patiently until her reached inside and then, up, up his arm, down the pants, under the table and into the ventilation.

Free.

However it was too curious to be free, too curious to the surroundings it didn't want to know more about the outside world it wanted to know more about the people observing it, poking it, tapping on the glass, tap tap tap.

At night when the owner passed out from drug use, it snuck into his little place where he used the plants and for the first time in its life, WSFTS fed on knowledge. It ate and ate, the fauna, flora, each chemical within his blood broken down and analyzed, studied, known.

After it was done, the small nymph emerged from the building as a full grown Dionaea, now with its basic hungers satiated it turned to the next biggest database of knowledge, Extranet.

The next visit was the public library where after being given some weird looks it learned everything it needed to know, chemicals, pain, pleasure, addictions, fear, strenght, power, weakness.

WSFTS closed the book on neurosurgery and knew its next course of action.

Through simpe intimidation WSFTS was reluctantly accepted as a bouncer, this job proved to be quite suitable for the Dionea as nobody really dared to mess with the 8 foot tall tree capable of squishing your head like a watermelon.

Rats, Light and water was all provided for and all WSFTS had to do was wait, and so it waited and waited until enough money could be attained and enough lessons could be learned. And so it learned, and got money, and spent money, and waited, it was all quite interesting.

A few times it saw what seemed like walking Arthropoids, Vaurca, interesting, those were new but after watching them operate it took no interest, they were boring, bug-like in apperance and behaviour. The unbound were a different case, but hard to come by. The humans screamed at them, threw cans but they never yelled back. One day the humans simply gave up. Weakness, strenght.

Some men from Sol came once, they broke the machines, one of them begged for its life even if it didn't live. The man broke it, Seargent Jeremiah O'Harriam, he had bags under his eyes and his clutched teeth expressed anger as he stamped on the dead synthetic.

Divorced, wife took child, Spacebook was a very interesting place for WSFTS too.

Eventually the time came, Weak Should Fear The Strong, PhD.

It was logical to sign up for NanoTrasen, they were the strongest.

What do you like about this character?

Weak Should Fear The Strong was a character concept I've had rolling in the back of my head for some quite time.

WSFTS is for me a character that finds understanding and interest in the psychological and logical pathways of other breathing, living, organisms. It likes to know what makes them tick, what makes them angry, what makes them happy and as its namesake implies, it wants to know what it means to be strong.

It isn't however cruel, or cold. It's simply calculating and understanding that some creatures must accept the consequences and die and while it holds a lot of sympathy it never feels bad when someone dies because someone else killed them, it feels like that is the natural order but by going against that natural order, WSFTS itself becomes stronger than the force that tried to crush the weaker organism, surpassing it. This is why it leans on being a surgeon and saving lives.

To be the strongest.

How would you rate your role-playing ability?

Ten outta ten I'm practically living my character my man. When I play a Tajara? I fucking shave a rug and sprinkle that shit into my fucking pants bro. Shieet when I played a skrell? I always kept a bucket near me to dip my sauces in to keep myself properly lubricated for that role.

Whenever I play command I tend to shove a stick up my ass to properly emulate the command mindset.

Why do we have this question again?

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Notes:

I went a bit overboard with the backstory, also it's exactly 00:00 where I live so spooky. ALthough the scariest part has to be the grammar in this lmao. Feel free to fix shit.

[Ornias]

Weak Should Fear The Strong

27 characters

too many

get FUCKED

[Coalf]

Weak Should Fear The Strong

27 characters

too many

get FUCKED

 

I was told it was 32 by everyone I asked, oh well.

[Eve]

i spat my coffee 4 times while reading this

4 times

[Synnono]

Is that name not also some sort of meme name anyway? Don't we discourage those in the naming rules? This one in particular got bandied about the Discord for a while.

Aside from that, I like what you like about this character. Defying death and the natural order of things is sort of a guilty pleasure of mine when it comes to character design (particularly with robots, but diona could certainly could fit the role in their treebug weirdness). It's a slightly different kind of strength that's potentially subversive when it's applied to an "8 foot tall tree capable of squishing your head like a watermelon."

As a player, you're a benevolent meme with a healthy creative streak, and even though I had a little trouble following the backstory as it was written, I don't doubt that you'd be able to bring the character to life in the game.

[Coalf]

I know about the meme, I didn't base it on the meme and I frankly have no other set of phrases that would really describe the charcter outside of those words.

And "The Inadequate Must Be Afraid of Those Superior" won't fit

[geeves]

As the resident official unofficial, unspoken outspoken Dionae boye, I can safely say that Coalf would do amazingly as a Dionae. I was there for the round he took over the other player's Dionae, and I didn't even notice the player had left. He had managed to immerse himself into the character so much that it was almost impossible to see that he didn't even have the whitelist from an outside view. He played it extremely well and I was quite surprised that he could.

One thing I'm not sure about is that lore-wise Nymphs need to merge with other nymphs to form a gestalt, not just gather biomass. But that's up to the loredev to decide. Minor issue, can be fixed.

Coalf was one of the first people I encountered in my time at Aurora, and he's one of the reasons I stuck with it. His RP is superb, his humor is fantastic and he's one of the most creative people here. I fully support his application and can't wait for him to join as the fourth Dionae on the server.

Okay maybe four is too little, sixth Dionae, eh?

+1

[Elohi Adanvdo]

Hello, Elohi here!

So, someone decided to stay up past their bedtime and try to make a post. Which I too, have dabbled in the art of. And usually, there's poor results.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I have managed to translate thus far:

The Nymph was more or less kept as an exhibit piece, something meant for display and not treated like a sentient being in the least. It was cut off from the rest of the outside world and instead fed a small sliver of what the world had to offer, and it wasn't really the sweetest piece of pie. The owner was an abusive, neglectful drug-user. But it was seen as normal to the nymph, so it just sat there and watched as it played with whatever was offered to it. Then, a brat came along and interrupted their photosynthesis, mom chided the kid, dad came over and beat the tar out of Jimmy. The rest of the gang watched. It was all new and exiting to the nymph.

One day, they decided to get smart and work their way out so they were free to learn more about the people that kept them in the glass box, turning the tides. Learning all they could, they consumed their owner, grew up, and decided to become a bouncer. Lived the life of a worker. Saw what more the world had to offer. Decided to learn more about people, went to school and got their PhD.

I really love the beginning. It brings up the problem of just how Nymphs should be treated, which has currently been a hot topic for me to mull over. Plant? Animal? Child? It obviously ended badly for the owner, but it could have literally evolved into something so much worse. What would happen if you had let an actual child grow up in that environment for several years and released them into the world, kept in a small room all their life with nothing but? Instead, the nymph took interest in the only "comfort" it knew- people. That's also a pretty interesting decision, and was logically one of many paths the nymph could have taken.

Now, after the last two... maybe three paragraphs tops, it all started to loose cohesion from that point on and devolved into rambling of sorts. Which I understand- your brain was melting from lack of sleep. But, it creates a problem of me not being able to understand exactly what's going on, which isn't good. I'd like you to go through and re-read what you wrote and fix it up a bit more. There could be a few things you could have easily forgotten to add that you wanted to, or see too much fluff and take it out with a little dusting.

I also see a bit of praise probably just kissing up to you, but what's the most promising is that someone is backing your work the round you had to take over. Despite your initial Tsundere aversion, the prospect of playing a Dionae literally grew on you. And from what I heard and seen, you have the potential to keep up your character's image. From what I've seen, especially from the most recent event, you are indeed creative and do a good job at... Well, your job.

With that out of the way, I have a few things I'd like to ask that your tired mind may not have adequately explained well then, and some general curiosities. Some can be added to the story in an edit as a reply, there may be a lot here.

- Ownership: How did the human get their hands on a nymph? Where did the owner live?

- Freedom: What made WSFTS decide it wanted to leave it's tank? Usually, when something is exposed to only that all their life, they actually don't have a drive to seek out freedom like you said in the beginning. Wht changed? And how did it devise such a clever plan in the first place when it was taught so little about electronics? Additionally, did the owners simply give up on their search?

- Growth: What made the nymph decide to eat their owner? Although it was exposed to the household, the nymph would probably think of the owner as "okay". But then again, it probably wouldn't know either way, get curious, have a nibble, love the taste and decide to have themselves a big helping of bloodshake.

-Formation: Geeves is correct. It takes more than one nymph to form a Gestalt. Sure, the little caterpillars could grow up into fat ol' puppers, but he needs a pack to make one. It's a bit hard to do so on-station considering the limited options to as of how that happens. Essentially, your little nymph would have to leave the place in search of fellow Dionae. This can be covered in a paragraph of where they found them and what they were like/what they knew. They could be incredibly new, and therefore, simple nymphs to make it easier on you, or more complex. Four total nyphs are enough to make an armless gestalt, and two more would make the arms. Additionally, the nymph themselves would each have their own name as an experience, and each split and fusion will result in a new name for each new experience. The end result could be WSFTS.

- Residence: How did they get their citizenship? They more or less need it among other things to work and the like. Where would they be considered a citizen?

- Education: Their owner's biomatter would have educated WSFTS about being a bouncer, and figured out that it was proba ly the easiest thing that they could do. But if they were so interested in people and how they worked, why surgery? It's relatively easy to see that rats and humans consist of the same stuff- the composition is just different. The real mystery is in the brain. Why not a psychologist? Or even neurosurgery? Where did they go for schooling? And how is being a surgeon considered "strong" to you, when so far they've been living their life by that motto from a physical aspect?

- Age: How old is the Gestalt itself? How long were they in school for to earn their degree, and for what courses? Mildly important.

- Extras: What was the new thing the nymph was last fed by their owner? What purpose did the very last paragraph serve- more or less, the last two?

Hopefully that should be it. And after all of these are answered, I should be able to make a decision from there. I know I'll hear from you soon :^)

[Coalf]

Hello, Elohi here!

Hi.

 

The Nymph was more or less kept as an exhibit piece, something meant for display and not treated like a sentient being in the least. It was cut off from the rest of the outside world and instead fed a small sliver of what the world had to offer, and it wasn't really the sweetest piece of pie. The owner was an abusive, neglectful drug-user. But it was seen as normal to the nymph, so it just sat there and watched as it played with whatever was offered to it. Then, a brat came along and interrupted their photosynthesis, mom chided the kid, dad came over and beat the tar out of Jimmy. The rest of the gang watched. It was all new and exiting to the nymph.

One day, they decided to get smart and work their way out so they were free to learn more about the people that kept them in the glass box, turning the tides. Learning all they could, they consumed their owner, grew up, and decided to become a bouncer. Lived the life of a worker. Saw what more the world had to offer. Decided to learn more about people, went to school and got their PhD.

I really love the beginning. It brings up the problem of just how Nymphs should be treated, which has currently been a hot topic for me to mull over. Plant? Animal? Child? It obviously ended badly for the owner, but it could have literally evolved into something so much worse. What would happen if you had let an actual child grow up in that environment for several years and released them into the world, kept in a small room all their life with nothing but? Instead, the nymph took interest in the only "comfort" it knew- people. That's also a pretty interesting decision, and was logically one of many paths the nymph could have taken.

So far yes

Now, after the last two... maybe three paragraphs tops, it all started to loose cohesion from that point on and devolved into rambling of sorts. Which I understand- your brain was melting from lack of sleep. But, it creates a problem of me not being able to understand exactly what's going on, which isn't good. I'd like you to go through and re-read what you wrote and fix it up a bit more. There could be a few things you could have easily forgotten to add that you wanted to, or see too much fluff and take it out with a little dusting.

Also correct.

 

I also see a bit of praise probably just kissing up to you, but what's the most promising is that someone is backing your work the round you had to take over. Despite your initial Tsundere aversion, the prospect of playing a Dionae literally grew on you. And from what I heard and seen, you have the potential to keep up your character's image. From what I've seen, especially from the most recent event, you are indeed creative and do a good job at... Well, your job.

Thank you for the compliment.

 

- Ownership: How did the human get their hands on a nymph? Where did the owner live?

Biesel, with how laws take nymphs as animals he simply kept it as a pet.

Seeds he most likely acquired legally as I said it was more of a xenobotanical exhibition where the owner abused the fact he had access to so many xenoflora to do wack dope.

I am not exactly sure if nymphs in-game work the same as nymphs in-lore as you can plant a pod and harvest it, if that's not possible I'd guess he managed to talk his way into a nymph or two splitting from an existing gestalt under the promise of xenobotanical endavours.

 

- Freedom: What made WSFTS decide it wanted to leave it's tank? Usually, when something is exposed to only that all their life, they actually don't have a drive to seek out freedom like you said in the beginning. What changed? And how did it devise such a clever plan in the first place when it was taught so little about electronics? Additionally, did the owners simply give up on their search?

I do realize I left it out, however a Museum/Exhibition is a public thing and in public things tend to break pretty often, in a botanical exhibition doubly so as there are hundreds of lights to provide the proper amount of lumens. It simply observed someone breaking a lightbulb, tried it for itself, perhaps it got hit by a current or smitted by glass. The owner came over and replaced it, it tried to scurry up and he he hit it.

It's why I wrote, if I remember correctly, "For the tenth time he broke the lightbulb", to show how slowly it learned by itself and the keeper being a lazy stoner basically never bothered to change the type of lightbulb or maybe build a fence around it it was more like ape-ish learning, repeating a task over and over, trial&error.

What changed, well the incident changed the small Nymph, while yes it was content and a mighty mouse foe, it realized it wasn't strong, the keeper owned it, he was the strong one. Additionally Nymphs are curious creatures and I assume it looked at the keeper as a giant bank of information and curiosities.

Regarding the last question, I'd imagine they discovered the body of what they knew or atleast strongly suspected was a drug taking keeper with the lid to a nymph enclosure open and him next to some illicit substances.

People that abuse drugs tend to get cought on the smallest on issues and give up, I imagine he gave up on searching for the nymph after a few minutes and opted to blaze himself in order to cope with the negative emotions.

 

- Growth: What made the nymph decide to eat their owner? Although it was exposed to the household, the nymph would probably think of the owner as "okay". But then again, it probably wouldn't know either way, get curious, have a nibble, love the taste and decide to have themselves a big helping of bloodshake.

Of course I ommitted all the explorations of the house as I wanted to "get on with it" as my brain slowly collapsed in on itself.

However it was a combination of it wanting to be stronger than the owner and also the fact it simply never got any other interaction with any other living creature outside of eating it. However SUCCING the keeper gave it quite the understanding on what is and isn't allowed.

 

-Formation: Geeves is correct. It takes more than one nymph to form a Gestalt. Sure, the little caterpillars could grow up into fat ol' puppers, but he needs a pack to make one. It's a bit hard to do so on-station considering the limited options to as of how that happens. Essentially, your little nymph would have to leave the place in search of fellow Dionae. This can be covered in a paragraph of where they found them and what they were like/what they knew. They could be incredibly new, and therefore, simple nymphs to make it easier on you, or more complex. Four total nyphs are enough to make an armless gestalt, and two more would make the arms. Additionally, the nymph themselves would each have their own name as an experience, and each split and fusion will result in a new name for each new experience. The end result could be WSFTS.

Then it differs from the in-game mechanics as I assumed if it simply gained enough biomatter it could turn into a big boy. But I guess not, I'll rewrite that later today then.

 

- Residence: How did they get their citizenship? They more or less need it among other things to work and the like. Where would they be considered a citizen?

I admit I left this out because I hoped you wouldn't notice, I couldn't find absolutely anything on the wiki on how a dionea can acquire a citizenship (as far as I know) and I was halfway into my application at the time so I felt like asking would only lead to me having to redo the whole thing and losing all drive.

I'm a creatively impulsive person, this character concept has been in my mind for a few weeks however just that day I went "yeah why not lol".

So allow me to ask, how would it be possible for a stray Dionaea to acquire citizenship on Biesel?

 

- Education: Their owner's biomatter would have educated WSFTS about being a bouncer, and figured out that it was proba ly the easiest thing that they could do. But if they were so interested in people and how they worked, why surgery? It's relatively easy to see that rats and humans consist of the same stuff- the composition is just different. The real mystery is in the brain. Why not a psychologist? Or even neurosurgery? Where did they go for schooling? And how is being a surgeon considered "strong" to you, when so far they've been living their life by that motto from a physical aspect?

Don't get me wrong, it was interested about psychology and I believe it probably read a few academics works in its free times.

However that isn't strong, knowing what someone is going to do is easy, humans are predictable to it if you know their mindset, if you know what exactly makes them tick towards a goal, this wasn't strenght.

And there is one thing no warrior is able to beat, no matter how extremely powerful, giant, monumental they are. Death.

Beating death is in itself an expression of strenght, being able to revive someone and quite literally ripping them out of deaths hands is strenght. WSFTS quickly realized that "Strenght" isn't a physicial concept.

Jimmy over there was "stronger" than Amy, however his dad was stronger than Jimmy. The owner was physically stronger than the nymph, but that didn't stop it from "beating him". It realized physical strenght is fleeting.

Same with the IPC, The Soldier, The Drunkards in bar.

The IPCs could have perhaps ripped their owners apart, however their morality kept them from becoming strong and not dying, moral strenght.

The soldier might have been physically stronger than the IPC, however his emotional state has shown that he could be destroyed by other means I.E his wife divorcing him and him having no abillity to subvert it, juristictional strenght.

The Drunkards were strong, even if they were weaker than WSFTS, but what made them truly weak was their addiction that tied their tongues and made them stumble around, the strenght of addiction.

But a surgeon? Who can really surprass him outside of natural death or complications? Nobody.

 

- Age: How old is the Gestalt itself? How long were they in school for to earn their degree, and for what courses? Mildly important.

Age is what I avoided, but I very much stressed a lot of "waiting".

Someone doesn't get money to get enough education in a few years, I'd estimate it somewhere between 40-50 years old.

However I think I'll be changing them from surgeon to a general Medical Doctor as it makes more sense for them.

As standart a doctorate I.E 10 years, four year residency in the local hospital and one year course as a masseur.

 

- Extras: What was the new thing the nymph was last fed by their owner? What purpose did the very last paragraph serve- more or less, the last two?

I can't really tell what the last thing was as I never gave it any thought.

However what the last two truly mean is the title of it as a licensed physician.

And the fact that it expressed that NanoTrasen is de factor the strongest company and thus it is only logical to work for them.

 

Hopefully that should be it. And after all of these are answered, I should be able to make a decision from there. I know I'll hear from you soon :^)

Here you go :v)

[Elohi Adanvdo]

Thanks for answering everything to clear it all up- the responses you provided are enough, so you don't have to rewrite your original post!

Now to help clear up some tricky topics- some of which I'll help out on because they're rather difficult and may not be covered by the wiki just yet.

For their acquisition:

Biesel, with how laws take nymphs as animals he simply kept it as a pet.

Seeds he most likely acquired legally as I said it was more of a xenobotanical exhibition where the owner abused the fact he had access to so many xenoflora to do wack dope.

I am not exactly sure if nymphs in-game work the same as nymphs in-lore as you can plant a pod and harvest it, if that's not possible I'd guess he managed to talk his way into a nymph or two splitting from an existing gestalt under the promise of xenobotanical endavours.

The seed packs would work, as Dionae do seed! But which city/district did WSFTS grow from on Biesel?

For their growth:

Then it differs from the in-game mechanics as I assumed if it simply gained enough biomatter it could turn into a big boy. But I guess not, I'll rewrite that later today then.

This could actually be an easy fix. Like you said, the owner grabbed some seed packs and took them for himself, right? If the little guy wandered around, they could find the packs, plant them himself, let the new ones feed on the biomass as well, then they turn to rats for a little while and bulk up before finally merging. They would at that point have the first nymph as the main node or brain center, as the eldest and more knowledgeable. The other ones are so new and would have somewhat of the same knowledge as the first- this way, the Gestalt wouldn't be much different from the main nymph. Considering where they might live and the potential difficulty to safely find more free nymphs, it would be a rather tactical decision to take advantage of their owner's stock and keep their knowledge restricted to what they want to study as the strongest nymph- which would be a unique choice that's a little rare in the species, considering their thirst for knowledge, but not entirely impossible. If you want to change it up a bit and have them make friends in the outside world and expand their database a bit like a normal Diona, that's fine too.

The Dionae's reproductive abilities may be changed that could only just slightly change their background, as this has brought to light an issue with their current reproduction. It won't be a drastic change, so don't worry- like I said, it would only slightly change the story, and would actually be beneficial in certain cases like this. So, thank you!

To give you a head-start and to immediately address your application and you don't have to re-skim through the entire wiki to find it, basically the idea would be that each form of Diona would release only one seed per year. A lone nymph would release one, a Worker would release only one, a Collossus would release only one... and so fourth. Otherwise, if it were several seeds released each year with the planetside populations, think of how scary it would be if each nymph on a gestalt flowered like a dandelion and shed the fluff? Biesel wouldn't have a problem with deforestation, that's for sure.

With this information, you can more or less have your nymph laze about, have a single pod a year, plant them all at once, they finish up the owner and then merge.

For their citizenship:

I admit I left this out because I hoped you wouldn't notice, I couldn't find absolutely anything on the wiki on how a dionea can acquire a citizenship (as far as I know) and I was halfway into my application at the time so I felt like asking would only lead to me having to redo the whole thing and losing all drive.

I'm a creatively impulsive person, this character concept has been in my mind for a few weeks however just that day I went "yeah why not lol".

So allow me to ask, how would it be possible for a stray Dionaea to acquire citizenship on Biesel?

Here's the really tricky one, and yet another issue that I have discovered. Considering how Dionae reproduce, it's not very practical to ask one for proof of origin and the like. So like their growth, I will address it here with a possible solution:

A Dionae would have to go through a series of tests similar to what an IPC might, a few of which would pertain to testing their knowledge of the planet and city they wish to reside in, such as laws. And like synthetics, they would have to undergo a morality tests as well. As you know, these guys can be pretty robust and pose a threat. The process would take about six months like just about any other citizenship program, and then about two to three weeks to get their green card. This would have to be done each time a new Gestalt is formed, or one is re-formed, and not simply absorbing a single nymph. Yes, I know, I'm basing it off of America's foreigner citizenship programs. LEAVE ME ALONE I ART NOT LAW

Another thing I forgot to ask regarding their education: Hopefully with citizenship at hand, what school did they choose to go to?

However I think I'll be changing them from surgeon to a general Medical Doctor as it makes more sense for them.

As standart a doctorate I.E 10 years, four year residency in the local hospital and one year course as a masseur.

As for this, I actually really liked the surgeon aspect. No one is as vulnerable as someone who is no longer conscious, and the patients are completely at the mercy of the surgeon. In the wiki, Surgeons are like Medical Doctors and are capable of everything an MD can do, but they specialize more in surgery (obviously) and so they tend to stick to their assigned position more when there's actual MD's around. But they can assume both positions if no MD is available. However, Medical Doctors are capable of doing minor surgeries if there's no surgeon or the surgeon has their hands full, so if you still wish to take that path there's no major loss there.

Additionally:

Age is what I avoided, but I very much stressed a lot of "waiting".

Someone doesn't get money to get enough education in a few years, I'd estimate it somewhere between 40-50 years old.

Just make sure to pick an age- the game will force you to do so, and it's not like tacking on an extra ten years won't do much with how long-lived the species is.

With these answered and if you have no more questions, we should be able to wrap this up!

[Coalf]

Thanks for answering everything to clear it all up- the responses you provided are enough, so you don't have to rewrite your original post!

Tight.

But which city/district did WSFTS grow from on Biesel?

District 5, "Homewood", not only for the ironic name but also because frankly if he came from a worse district, why would there even be a Xenobotany exhibition there? But because District 5 is right next to District 6 which happens to be a lot worse and thus would allow the owner to keep up his somewhat shady practices without having to ride god knows where.

 

This could actually be an easy fix. Like you said, the owner grabbed some seed packs and took them for himself, right? If the little guy wandered around, they could find the packs, plant them himself, let the new ones feed on the biomass as well, then they turn to rats for a little while and bulk up before finally merging.

This gives me an idea.

This guy already harvests the xenoplants for drugs, Nymphs are pretty dang edible and hell perhaps you could call them a rare delicacy as I assume not everyone is growing nymphs daily and knowing how to exactly cook them as they would need acid, but guess who gets access to acid.

That's right, acids are pretty common in proffesional gardens as certain mixtures require them, (I've actually heard this from my local florist who I delievered roses for a while, apperantly it's cheaper to mix your own weed killers than buy ones if you're skilled at chemistry)

So let's say this guy grows nymphs, feeds them fatter rats than usual, let's them bulk up and sells them out for slaughter, I'm guessing he'd probably keep them in a room with a very limited light and movement, just like growing animals on the black market.

WSFTS stumbles into the back, finds these pretty dumb, limited and fattened nymphs and thus it is most likely easy for it to convince them to merge together and leave it as the leading Dionea, however most likely it gains absolutely nothing regarding knowledge or understanding and it would feel somewhat dissapointed, this would teach it an important question. That even Dionaea can be weak.

 

Here's the really tricky one, and yet another issue that I have discovered. Considering how Dionae reproduce, it's not very practical to ask one for proof of origin and the like. So like their growth, I will address it here with a possible solution:

A Dionae would have to go through a series of tests similar to what an IPC might, a few of which would pertain to testing their knowledge of the planet and city they wish to reside in, such as laws. And like synthetics, they would have to undergo a morality tests as well. As you know, these guys can be pretty robust and pose a threat. The process would take about six months like just about any other citizenship program, and then about two to three weeks to get their green card. This would have to be done each time a new Gestalt is formed, or one is re-formed, and not simply absorbing a single nymph. Yes, I know, I'm basing it off of America's foreigner citizenship programs. LEAVE ME ALONE I ART NOT LAW

The thing is, if you're working as a bouncer nobody really checks who you are, doubly so when you're a dionaea, while yes their names stand out, face by face they're almost identical. Thus I'm guessing it wouldn't really grab much attention or raised eyebrows if it applied for the job, got it and only then working towards its green card.

 

Another thing I forgot to ask regarding their education: Hopefully with citizenship at hand, what school did they choose to go to?

Biesel Institute of Medical Science, popular choice as it must be the strongest.

As for this, I actually really liked the surgeon aspect. No one is as vulnerable as someone who is no longer conscious, and the patients are completely at the mercy of the surgeon. In the wiki, Surgeons are like Medical Doctors and are capable of everything an MD can do, but they specialize more in surgery (obviously) and so they tend to stick to their assigned position more when there's actual MD's around. But they can assume both positions if no MD is available. However, Medical Doctors are capable of doing minor surgeries if there's no surgeon or the surgeon has their hands full, so if you still wish to take that path there's no major loss there.

I guess you are right, however I don't want to close off this character to one specialized environment and would rather keep my eyes open to new possibilities.

I already played a surgeon many many times and you could call this OOC attitude influencing IC, but basically I wish to see a bit more.

Additionally:

Just make sure to pick an age- the game will force you to do so, and it's not like tacking on an extra ten years won't do much with how long-lived the species is.

With these answered and if you have no more questions, we should be able to wrap this up!

Fuck it, he's 80 why not.

[Elohi Adanvdo]

This gives me an idea.

This guy already harvests the xenoplants for drugs, Nymphs are pretty dang edible and hell perhaps you could call them a rare delicacy as I assume not everyone is growing nymphs daily and knowing how to exactly cook them as they would need acid, but guess who gets access to acid.

That's right, acids are pretty common in proffesional gardens as certain mixtures require them, (I've actually heard this from my local florist who I delievered roses for a while, apperantly it's cheaper to mix your own weed killers than buy ones if you're skilled at chemistry)

So let's say this guy grows nymphs, feeds them fatter rats than usual, let's them bulk up and sells them out for slaughter, I'm guessing he'd probably keep them in a room with a very limited light and movement, just like growing animals on the black market.

WSFTS stumbles into the back, finds these pretty dumb, limited and fattened nymphs and thus it is most likely easy for it to convince them to merge together and leave it as the leading Dionea, however most likely it gains absolutely nothing regarding knowledge or understanding and it would feel somewhat dissapointed, this would teach it an important question. That even Dionaea can be weak.

 

Super awesome idea, however, you forgot that Nymphs are radioactive because they contain radium, meaning people can get poisoned. The recipe states that each roast contains two units of radium. To counteract this, the Wiki states: "Add 1 unit of dylovene per unit of radium, which will react to form hyronalin." So, the owner will also need a supply of dylovene as well, but it's a manageable amount of an easier to produce medication. Not super important to the story, but more or less just a small note for the backstory.

 

The thing is, if you're working as a bouncer nobody really checks who you are, doubly so when you're a dionaea, while yes their names stand out, face by face they're almost identical. Thus I'm guessing it wouldn't really grab much attention or raised eyebrows if it applied for the job, got it and only then working towards its green card.

Yep! Completely fine- I just wanted to make sure they had one prior to going into college because you kind of need proof of residence and the like for more dignified and scrupulous things, such as schooling and occupation. Minus NT hiring on greytiders.

 

Fuck it, he's 80 why not.

Just make sure their age is appropriate for their timeline. A lot can be learned in eighty years, which means their personality can change a little. For a naturally curious creature, being an MD for so long would probably mean they learned all they could about being one and all that pertains to it, and want to branch out to learn other things to supplement what they already know. It's best to keep a homegrown younger so they can have a drive to learn more in their immediate position, and give them something to work for. For you, this would mean character growth. Help I've made to many puns and have strayed further from the light

Initially, I was just a little weary of your application. First off, the name. Like Synnono said, it was uncomfortably close to a meme, and on top of that there were a few "accusations" that you were a meme yourself and prone to doing meme things in-character. Secondly, your backstory in your original post more or less devolved into the mad ramblings of a sleep-depraved man. Despite that, I was able to decipher most of it, and whatever I couldn't, you cleared it all up with me in a comprehensible way with you in a far more lucid state after I more or less put you through a barrage of questions. As you probably guessed, it was a small test besides my own curiosity. A cliche move, I know. But you've passed. You showed dedication and have an actual character with a solid background, besides showing responsibility as is proof with your position in the community and your interactions with them ICly and OOCly, me included. The only thing now is to see where WSFTS will go with his future.

Go forth, my son. Make me proud.

 

Application Accepted.

 

 

PS- If you want to, you can do what most Tajarans do and have Weak Should Fear The Strong as their assimilated name to make their integration into alien society easier, while having The Inadequate Must Be Afraid of Those Superior as their full name. It would honestly be pretty cool to do as it shows the nature behind their names being more like philosophies as they can be, cut down into short mottoes or book titles.