EmperorVoyd

The almost consensus reaction is that this is a universally hated game mode being dubbed "Blue Tide" I don't know how from a game design standpoint this made it in, that implementing it with their current abilities, limitations, and hidden rules was an idea at all, who said what? and who said yea that will be a great idea for HRP? did anyone even look at it? or are we just making use of something that was paid for regardless of quality?

Does this ridiculous change hurt my ability to play my borg Glitch?

Thank fuck, I'm glad art theft form other servers is finally being policed more, I've always been frustrated when I find out graphics and sprites and such are being ported from other servers yet we have people calling themselves sprite artists and seem fine with literally stealing assets from other servers and that is some how considered an OK fulfillment of their "Sprite work". Keep it up!

Does this type of lore change technically impact people's characters since it's establishing based on the subspecies, that they sound a certain way, so does this mean your big gruff M’sai still sounds like a girly "femboy" when he talks? they can't be a gruff gravelly voice of your typical movie hero story? Same with the others being put into a certain vocal range, so do we, unless stated otherwise in a flavour-text that we automatically assume that a given Tajara sounds a certain way? Lore additions should provide fun framework. I like that vocal singing is far more valued than instrumental work, mainly because I imagine the poor probably didn't have access to fancy instruments and literally relied on singing and maybe simplified versions of the fancy instruments, a human-centric comparison would be along the lines of the equipment and setup of a modern rock band vs a bluegrass band in a field with a washboard and a guitar with three strings, down to the poorest of poor, no instruments maintaining beat with chest thumping and foot stomping and pure mouth noises for musical substance, when considering the technological gap between the rich and poor music, or ability to make it within the Tajara society Also due to the past being one giant war, I imagine people weren't sitting around playing instruments and that things got a lot more simple(small instruments, harmonica-like, basic percussion? anyone can pick up a stick and smack the ground with it), maybe even most authentic Tajara stuff being lost/assimilated by human music with true traditional Tajara music doesn't really exist outside of very small niches, traditionalists and religion.

This high school level of popularity contest shouldn't be supported and encouraged or even displayed like this it's gross.

So if the critter was small like everyone else but say, still had wings and shit, would they still be an issue? Is there any other real argument being pushed? far as I see it, the complaint mainly revolves around how big they are. Splash all the lore excuses you want, they can easily be rewritten and changed, this is about size, nothing more. In such that it diminishes the impact of other large critters that were reserved for special events, I feel like the beating around the bush issue here is that in the world of competition between who has the bigger lore dick, big icons are high up on that status symbol, Big icon, Big dick, swing it, War-forms, Tanks, "big swinging icon dicks", and now that status symbol has been taken, that uniqueness of seeing large creatures is now very much a common reality now on the station and it belongs to one segment of the lore, one species, and that means they possess the largest throbbing icon dick of all, because you can't bring the tank every time, you can't bring [Insert whatever retarded gimmick large icon] every time. But the bugs can. When will IPC's "Lore creep" in size, I want to see car-sized IPC rolling around the station, maybe 12ft "mecha" type.

I feel like radio waves may not be the greatest choice, I mean for a number of reasons, radio waves are slow, they eventually disperse within interstellar space, depending on how they are transmitting, be it omnidirectional or highly focused directional transmitting or may be a combination of both usually requires a very high energy transmitter, I would assume this ability would be limited to much larger forms, the kind you might find floating in free space. Now... Organically... What is the "Technobabble" or.."Organobabble" behind how they are achieving the ability to broadcast with radio-waves, depending on your type of broadcasting and receiving strengths, radio waves can be disrupted by a tree in the way, a rock, a mountain, a thin sheet of metal, they are notoriously unreliable and slow. my solution? or.. "Organobabble"... Would be something as follows... Way back in the beginning when there was just one nymph creating the first seed, I'm not going to get into the argument of which came first, in my head the first nymph literally popped into existence through quantum uncertainty and random chance just for the sake of sanity and avoiding a chicken versus egg argument that isn't the focus here... I digress... Every time a seed is made a quantum link is established using entangled particles between Seed and parent nymph, this essentially over time from your original individual to what we have today is connected to one another through this quantum entangled biological network, when the network is utilized an individual is sending the message through other individuals and over the entire network almost instantaneously as the quantum entangled particles flip-flop their state, with each nymph having a specialized internal bit that maintains it all. It's strange to consider because one Diona talking to another Diona over this network are bouncing a quantum signal over the entirety of their species instantaneously.

The reason I don't explore pheromones or expand upon their existing visual/vocal communication is because both of these methods assume a medium of travel and or visual, wherein I was considering the very real fact that these creatures can exist in atmospheric conditions unlike any of the other species in varying extremes where oxygen or another trace gas wouldn't be available to deliver sound or pheromones, BUT! An ultrasonic tapping that can be picked up by other individuals with a specialized listener probe, could be used in very different conditions all in the pursuit of the very useful act of communication between individuals that can't see each other, can't smell each other, that you would think these space bearing green goo critters could possess, and logically so. I just thought of a small game play mechanic with it, you would have two modes, listener and broadcaster, if you're broadcasting you're not listening, if you're listening your not broadcasting. it could be a toggle state in their abilities

I guess if I was going to quantify why they would have such an ability described above, it would serve to function as a sort of locator beacon for individuals, where in the past this ability to tap and listen was mainly to aid in one of their primary behaviours of finding individuals and coming together to form larger individuals and share information , but now individuals have started to use the ability differently based on ideas and exposure to the various species on the station, Are they not a sort of primitive biological driven collective? Mainly driven on the foundation to come together to form larger individuals and share information? I guess it would be akin to more of a biological drive versus an artificial construct of ideas and rules that could change. Also try to move away from thinking I'm calling this thing a hive net ability, because it isn't, I was using that as a reference to the game mechanic that is achieved in game, and not necessarily its lore reasons, I've explained how the tap and listen thing functions above, what would be used for, why they have it, but all the feedback so far is related to me calling it a hive-net ability, I feel like everything else was skipped, ITS NOT A HIVE NET ABILITY! It's a different process altogether and has different reasons for existing, I apologize for making a reference to the game mechanic using its lore name. If I mention anything about hive net, I am referring to the in game mechanic that it achieves.

I didn't know the issue was completely put to bed and I apologize for bringing up again if that's the case, I just originally thought the issue was finding an alternative lore method as to how they are achieving remote communication that isn't similar to the other species being psychic or technology driven and so I decided to propose my alternative to how they may achieve a desired lore outcome explained above that would complement such a mechanic of communication. essentially I didn't realize the issue was about coming up with a unique game-play experience to complement the mechanic of a remote chat feature accessible by only members of the same species, I figured it was a lore issue of not wanting to use psychic powers or technology to explain how they are achieving the game mechanic feature of remote communication with other members of their species. However if I was going to consider a few things off the top of my head would be if they are floating or picked up by someone they would be unable to "transmit" since it involves essentially what is tapping on the ground or surface that they are sitting on, explained above that the tapping is more like a supersonic buzzing with the frequencies not unlike quartz crystals vibrating. However in the end I feel like I've misinterpreted the whole issue in this whole mess can be disregarded if that's the case.

So I've heard a few back-and-forth chats in OOC about giving Dionaea a "Hive net"-like ability but there has been resistance due to the similarities of existing species abilities, so my solution to this would be to make a simple lore change with Dionea that they are very sensitive to vibrations and different frequencies of vibrations, so much so that they are able to use a tiny hidden claw to tap on the floors or whatever surface is under them with a very specialized appendage, this tapping wouldn't be apparent to the unaided eye or even detectable by most species but each Dionaea and Nymph would be able to do this allowing them to communicate over longer distances mimicking that "hive net" communication mechanic but achieving it using an alternative method to technology or a hive-net/mind Picture the tapping not like someone doing Morse code, imagine the tapping happening at a frequency like the vibration of a quartz crystal, so maybe Skrell might be able to hear them doing it based on proximity, but not necessarily whats' being said between individuals, Skrell might perceive it as a buzzing, with other species being completely deaf to its usage or varying degrees of detection based on proximity and given species sensitivity to high frequency sounds/vibrations perceived as a buzzing. They are specially tuned to listen for certain frequencies and thus the ability doesn't allow them to hear people talking through walls or anything like that, the specialized parts are tuned for very narrow frequency that the tapping appendage produces, there is no theoretical range limit from which two individuals can detect each other so long as they can transmit physically through the ground, so in theory A nymph tapping on the ground using its appendage on the Great Wall in China could be heard in New York city by a nymph sitting at the top of the Empire State building. but a Nymph on plane wouldn't hear anything from the other two until it landed, requiring a connection to the ground or a proxy connection to the ground/surface the others are transmitting on. And that's how I think you could adjust the species and allow them to have the coveted "Hive net"-like chat ability without going into the realm of psychic power or technological driven network.

+1 agree.

At the moment feel like there isn't anything I can do without being nit-picked into extended lessons of do and don't that aren't really detailed in the wiki, all I can really do is sit back and agree to everything and try to remember a bunch of these unwritten rules when I eventually decide to play the species. I feel like the species may have a lot of headcanon that isn't quite listed, but in the end, I will try to respect and evolve my character according to the rules set within, although I do wish there was more framework scaffolding for creative choices versus a Bible of rules both written and unwritten, however that's not my call and I look forward to playing the species regardless if given a chance.

My narrative would be to play the nymph as I usually do when I play as the nonvocal critter, I repeat this process through enough rounds until I've gone through enough nymphs to compile a body or if I do well enough in a given round, grow and maintain the form that way, my past narrative before the changes was to grow and struggle to hold form the first few times, once or twice it grows ICly but tends to struggle to stay together and come apart at first, refusing or not quite getting the hang of solidifying the connections between individuals, instead relying on the mentioned "tight handholding" strategy of tendrils coiled tight around each other. after a little while of loose connections and bipedal form confusion it will solidify into your everyday walking talking critter.

Sounds good to me, I will play a few rounds as One Who Sees nymph as I have in the past, only with whitelist I will be able to grow and continue the characters development, Once the Nymph establishes a more permanent Cyclops form it will adopt the name "One Who Sees Many"