LordFowl

Keep genetics but remove the DNA scanner, and make it so that at round start certain people are selected to have a psionic gift that develops rapidly in the bluespace aura that the NSS Aurora emits. The geneticist's job is to find one of these gifted personnel and conduct tests on them, perhaps even including an autopsy. They have full permission to research this gift in any way they see fit.

Keep genetics but remove the DNA scanner, and make it so that at round start certain people are selected to have a psionic gift that develops rapidly in the bluespace aura that the NSS Aurora emits. The geneticist's job is to find one of these gifted personnel and conduct tests on them, perhaps even including an autopsy. They have full permission to research this gift in any way they see fit.

Grating, irritating, but necessary for you to be a Skrell.

Grating, irritating, but necessary for you to be a Skrell.

Imperials are statistically inferior. How they persist is a wonder that clearly points to non-Darwinian evolution going on.

Imperials are statistically inferior. How they persist is a wonder that clearly points to non-Darwinian evolution going on.

The problem is that human beings have the tendency to be dicks. We can't solve that problem with server arbitration and censorship.

The idea worked moderately well with the Eldar Spy profession in Archangel Station (Not saying that Archangel Station should ever be the ideal server to model yourself off of), mostly because they had cool toys like faking central command messages. In all reality though, isn't cargonia already our professional crime racket? It feels like it, with our Jaylor Rameaus and our Jamison Stamos', and etcetera.

LOGIN>Irenicus PASSWORD>******** ACCESS LEVEL>UNCLASSIFIED NET ACCESS GRANTED WELCOME >One (1) Audio message detected. Playing message: "We greet. . .The master is out. . .unavailable, but as master says. . .'the show must go on'. . .we will go. . .in his stead. . .You may call. . .us. . .uhh. . .*there is an audible rustling* . . .Lazarus. . ."

So obviously censor everything and anything that could possibly hurt someone's feelings, because if someone's feelings are hurt then they'll leave?

There is already rules against heated arguments in OOC. The long arm of the law has been employed judiciously and ajudiciously multiple times to prevent this. Whether these heated arguments concern politics or religion is irrelevant to their stifling. I don't think outright censoring certain topics is the solution. I personally think people need to suck it up, but there's good reasons I'm not a moderator.

That's an issue for you to resolve at the time but, at least in my perspective, escaping does not provide grounds for immediate execution of a person, intruder or otherwise. However, I now recognize that this is largely an IC issue more than a fault of thinking OoC (Although there is some slight bias towards the 'pew pew your problems away' motif), and am willing to close the complaint, unless anyone else would like to bring anything up. I suppose I did make this complaint in the heat of the moment, and I don't really care for executive action to be taken against Senpai.

SenpaiShadow_ just stated the he didn't know I had changed the AI's laws /until/ I had died, solely because he found the AI board on me. Your fascination with plurality is inaccurate, TechnoKat. I cut off one person's hand - and that only became lethal because the man didn't get to medical quick enough/medical was ssd - , and everyone else I killed was solely because of the crippling energy net bug. I don't even know why we consider those deaths canon, because they make absolutely no sense from an IC perspective, and I just put them in my post to provide perspective of the round. Altogether, TechnoKat, I am not angry because 'my plain failed', as you so eagerly insist, although I am a bit upset at your philosophy of "well, he's an antag so he can get fucked because he's an antag!". And I contest the point that switching to lethals is nothing more than fair, Alberyk. It supports a philosophy that Jackboot quite humorously sums up as "Pew pew the problem away".

As to your statement of "I just switched to lethal and shot you, I didn't plan to kill you, which I ultimately did because I kept shooting at you without thinking how many shots it takes until you die" I don't really see how that line of thinking makes much sense. What /were/ you trying to achieve with lethals, if not outright killing me? I also don't see how taking a clearly defensive and typically nonlethal action (chopping off a head) declares you as hostile. Dangerous yes, hostile? As to the AI laws, for clarity's sake I just switch the core lawset from NanoTrasen to PALADIN, and while I do suppose that it does set a precedent for me being able to access the core at my whim, it doesn't really declare me as hostile either. Taking all the crimes I committed to account, I still don't see how lethals was justified.

BYOND Key: Lord Fowl Player Byond Key: SenpaiShadow_ Staff involved: N/A Reason for complaint: During a ninja round I was playing my usual poltergeist Ninja when I experienced the issue that energy nets bugged people out. So for half of the round in mention I was attempting to fix that bug by killing the people in question and cloning them, while simultaneously avoiding the witch-hunt that I attracted the attention of by stealing the Captain's spare. After I had done as much as I could I tried to re-enter the round as smoothly as possible, dodging security tasers and the like. Eventually, during a confrontation in maintainence a security officer cornered me with a stun baton and I delivered him a nonlethal blow to the hand, disarming him and cutting off the hand. I then stun-batoned him and teleported away as the detective arrived stir-crazy with his pistol. Upon the delivery of this initially non-lethal blow, the Head of Security, who had just fully recovered from the arduous cloning process he underwent to fix the energy net bug, determined the issue of energy carbines was necessary. He gave each member of security a carbine, but instructed them to use non-lethals. At some point the man I disarmed die due to infection and low medical staff (it being dead hour), but was cloned quickly. A little time passes after issuing carbines, when the Head of Security encounters me in the bridge. I am able to dodge most of his carbine blasts, however a few strike home and so I teleport out of the bridge into space, where his taser bolts can't hit me. At this point, with in my opinion no justification, he immediately engaged in lethals and shot me to death. My complaint is of course not about the crippling energy net bug that I had to spend most of the round re-mediating, but the trigger-switch to lethals that had almost no justification. The only openly antagonist things I did the entire round was blow up the DNA modifier in genetics (Not any of the machines vital to cloning, but rather the machines that offered genetic powers), and cut off a guy's hand. The rest of the round was spent throwing items around and generally being a minor annoyance. I hesitate to say, but I suspect that Senpai was motivated to switch to lethals solely to kill the antagonist, and I would dearly like his input on the matter. Approximate Date/Time: 7:00 EST, AUG/2/2015

I believe its something to do with necromorphs, and was inspired by her spritethread. Not sure though.

It is possible that SoundScopes ultimately plans to replace the xenomorphs with Sue's project entirely. Including pulling xenomorphs from the code.

I think SoundScopes is leery of borrowing too heavily from other server's code, perhaps?

Who the fuck steals a book?

Typically MMIs are wiped of their past memories, so I don't see a reason why they would know the language of their species.

It's about what's on the inside, not the outside. If I were to go hunting and kill an ape and wear its skin I wouldn't suddenly be able to speak chimpanzee.

But your point is that there is already suspicion about the cyborg. Nobody randomly watches a cyborg on a camera unless they're bored, or the cyborg is sent to the asteroid. Same thing for the AI.

An AI can remotely spy on other antags as well, and if they're hiding away that means they're the asteroid or in maintenance, typically. And if its a case of 'minuscule suspicion', they don't know they should be hiding yet nine times out of ten. I don't think the ion rifle is that long of a stun, actually, because I've been on both the receiving and giving end and have noticed that typically a flash is just straight up better in most scenarios. Rogue borgs don't don't have to and are usually told specifically to ignore law 4, because their hack-law overrules it of course. Most borgs actually have very useful e-mag weapons, and a stun baton is nothing to scoff at. The janitor gets lube spray, the standard gets an energy sword, and the medical bot gets a cyanide pill. To be honest, all I'm getting out of this thread is that flashes are the thing that are ridiculous OP (especially because they're so accessible), and not camera spying.

Borgs are already all access machines that don't have paincrit, are fairly good at soaking up raw damage, work in any environment and when hacked have very dangerous weapons. An ion rifle doesn't do much against them, EMPs are not as useful as they could be, and a flash only really works if the borg isn't careful or you gang up on it. I'd like to see some case scenarios where this camera thing caused total failure of an antag's plan.

Let us not derail this thread into just thinking that it's all about the vote-hopping. There are other factors at play. One third of your argument is about vote-hopping entirely. Furthermore, the thread I just listed is not solely in concerns of vote-hopping, as it also discusses the 'group-think' which the rest of your topic concerns itself with.