Bear

As was discussed with other staff in round, we agreed having you antagonize the ship 20 minutes after the Horizon sent you a warning shot towards the back end of the round served little to no point and was not sufficient justification to then re-engage and escalate. Additionally, you are a small barely a frigate, with no supply line, undermanned, and were with little to no crew and no guaranteed resupply or repair. Going against a significantly larger vessel with a full crew compliment and better armaments. If you had engaged them when they fired on you that would be another matter, but even still, a warning shot in comparison to being actively pursued would require scrutiny and logical judgment for a fringe element. Approach it from the IC stance when figuring this out, I'll point out a few things here momentarily. But, you were given a warning shot by a larger and more dangerous vessel to clear their space while they worked. What do you gain from getting into a fight with them beyond likely death or crew casualties, loss of medical supplies, loss of rare repair supplies, loss of rarer and critical ship-based ammo, and loss of return in profit. Do you think a three man party is going to seize the Horizon? Even at best had you managed to best them in the fight, you are at a net loss. There is no logic in the fight to begin with. You were not fighting for your survival, which would have been a different story if they had say, chased after you with the intent to destroy. You would not know this about the ship as a random SFA renegade, nor is this true. The horizon is very maneuverable and dangerous especially when the server population allows for a full and competent helm as the events have shown when combatting much larger and far more dangerous event threats. Retrain your thought process in how you approach the game. Mechanical limitations or silliness should not be your default thought line for justifications. Just because the skrell can red-grab and throw a vaurca bulwark, does not mean they should. Lore has not and never will be an excuse to bypass server rules be it sanity, escalation, or general rp expectations for characters and antagonist characters including off ship roles. You are an off ship that may be antagonistic which has stricter expectations and a lot more limitations in comparison to a round antagonist such as a mercenary or a ninja. If you wish to antagonize the server I suggest your ready up at round start to roll as an actual antagonist. There are a lot of options to do solarian-based gimmicks there. I understand it can be frustating to play an off station with your hands tied, but our focus is on the horizon, not 3rd party additions. Those are seasonings on top of the burger, not the meal itself. That's all I really have to say on the matter, I hope that helps clarify things a bit for you and why we denied your request. Handling staff can ping me if they have any other questions.

In this instance, in particular, the extent of injuries was very questionable last night and much of it was drummed up with little backing evidence. However, the attack in question was still severe. And so what should be advised is taking a look at the intent as SS13 is not always a 1:1 with the real world. A few clicks on the ground, in this case, did a fair amount of damage, that much was certain. Assault is given a broad range because of situations like this. When the assault is severe, and leaves lasting injuries, I highly advise following up with Incident Reports as certain situations do need to be looked at for more permanent solutions or consequences. Murder should be saved for when there is an attempt to kill, successful or otherwise, and there is little doubt. Was a lethal weapon, such as a knife, axe, or firearm utilized, how severe were the injuries? It's usually pretty easy to tell. Did the offender stop after they went down? Or did they continue to attack until pulled off? While yes, a head stomp in the real world is insanely wild, remember that unless specific attacks are selected in your check attacks tab, the game may default to it with or without the player's knowledge. When applying a murder or attempted murder charge, ensure you have droves of supporting evidence. The bar for assault is MUCH lower on purpose, as the charges in question still leave command players as well as the Incident Report system to follow up on whatever needs to be done via suspensions, permanent reprimands, or character terminations. From the OOC side of things when you apply a murder charge you have now ended that character's round both for gimmicks and for canon. Be certain before you apply it.

As you've only just begun playing recently and after conferring with other staff I will be denying this request. In that time since you've returned you've also had to he contacted by staff on multiple occasions in the last two days. While you may have grown as a person, we need to be able to see consistent performance to back that up before I will be willing to consider it. You may reapply after 3 months with semi consistent play.

After reviewing with Campin. It was a case of mistaken identity as Lmwevil pointed out above and the meme itself was harmless enough that we will overturn the strike. Still, would advise being cautious with memes and avoid those that reference NSFW material in general as we are not an 18+ server. The strike will be removed, and I will close this complaint in 24 hours unless there is anything else.

I'll be taking this with @CampinKiller

I'm sorry but this was your second ban. We do not unban after two permanent bans and considering the notes and history I do not believe this behaviour would change. You would need to staff complaint this decision instead but the rationale in why you were banned yet again is fairly obvious. I will not be unbanning.

You intentionally entered an area during antag's gimmick next to a welder tank which he was using as a bomb. I believe it is quite obvious in your own video , that you had intended to drag the tank away from the area, for there is little other reason to approach it in an armed confrontation with a man who has a gun.. I am sorry, I do not believe the quotes you ICly stated about using your body to block lasers were exempt from your entire rationale. Even if we removed them, it is still incredibly poor escalation and power gaming to try and sprint/drag a bomb away from someone who is either typing or not willing to escalate to such a level first. You have many notes/warnings about power gaming and escalation, along with previous bans for other offenses, the escalation was thus another temporary ban. That is about all I have to say/add until the staff handling this complaint weighs in.

Alright after reviewing this, I do not think anything needs to be actioned here. While sending all of security is never advisable so do try and be careful or have a backup plan in case hivebots or bugs happen, in a very low pop situation there is sometimes concessions that need to be made. The primary difference in the scenario here versus the one mentioned earlier where you had been talked to Dessy was that you as the sole command member left the ship. Just try and do your best with what you have, don't be afraid to ahelp if you aren't sure in the future. If there is nothing else I will be closing this in 24 hours.

I've accepted this application, trial begins now and will remain until the completion of 3 IRs.

After consideration we've gone with the other applicant but thank you for applying!

Alright after reading over this, and considering the response here, do you have anything else you'd like to add @dessysalta? @Nagito Komaeda did you believe the vessel was still a threat at the time you dispatched a team to it?

You should be able to see them through the Web Integration so long as your account is linked. You can also find a link to the WI on the front page of the wiki if you are having troubles.

I will not be making the decision on this complaint. The logic is not flawed in any way, and the warnings/bans already applied are not being revoked. You can make a separate staff complaint on previous warnings you have received if you wish, however. You are expected to have read the rules and understand them in their entirety before posting a ban appeal, you have been around long enough to know that if you had questions about a situation to ahelp before doing it if you were unsure. Ignorance of the rules is not an excuse. After being unbanned from a permanent ban you are subject to re-application of permanent bans as punishment at the staff member's discretion. The warnings you were given in the day prior were already extra chances, not an obligation. Escalation of punishment can be found on the rules page. A decision for clemency by the handling admin is up to the handling admin. If you are disagreeing with the decision made as a rule break to ban you, you need to spell it out more clearly in the complaint and why you are disagreeing with the decision.

I will be taking the complaint with @CampinKiller give me some time to read up and pose some questions.

Having only applied a few months ago, Evan's old interview will be sufficient for his application after discussing the option with him. https://pastebin.com/NpN1SvHt