WickedCybs

Lifted.

Appeal accepted.

Hey, I didn't forget about this. Last week's been busy. I'll follow up/resolve it by Friday at the least.

Here is what I believe is the full discord conversation.

In any case, this is approved.

This is a very novel and interesting idea, I really like that about this. Lore also thinks it's based so this is approved.

Will be reviewing the rest of this later. Regarding item limits, we don't have any at the moment so it's up to you on whether the trophy stays or goes.

Approved, then. I won't lock this for a few days though, in case there's any other elements to consider that haven't been posed yet.

The item itself seems fine to me. I think one issue though with making this an accessory is that the visual identification of what armour type you're wearing will be lost. If you're only running standard/heavy on this, that could be fine though.

From a character basis I just can't agree with this. The change would be far more extreme than it was when we went from a corporate station to a corporate ship. Back then we kind of traded the more chill "working your nine to five and then clocking out" element for a "dedicated" crew that wasn't going home at the end of every shift. Our factions carried over more or less. There was some continuity there. Your proposal isn't just a clean swap, For most departments it would ask for retcons at best and total character rewrites at worst. Outside of requisitions I really couldn't (personally) say most characters that I have or would make for the Horizon would cleanly transfer to the setting of an independent freighter because they're so different in tone, scope and the life trajectory my characters would envision themselves to be on that it mandates a different approach. It's not a bad thing that I'd have to approach it differently mind you, but that's part of why I don't believe this is ever going to fit Aurora specifically. The setting switch is not as clean a swap as it might seem in practice and frankly, it's going to mandate new characters and new perspectives. Regarding events, many could still be done but the setting is so corporate dominated it might be a bit much that a random freighter would have the influence to go where the Horizon does. Of course, there's always ways around that. As for the lore-side, trigo kind of covered that. The corporate aspects generally being in the background is kind of a benefit to me, honestly. While it should be considered more at times, it's very believable a job is a job. You put in the work and think about something else unless you're dedicated or enjoy what you do and so on. Stories of survival can be done on both, but the independent setting slants it further and also begs the question of the how and why they've taken what could be considered more of a risk or uncertainty. Fair enough. I still don't like the idea of ever having things like piracy even as a remote possibility of a potential contract to take but the more mundane stuff could hit better here and reminds me of King of The World on the station map, where we had a lot of random events in the pool kind of similar (random refugees boarding to take care of, wounded ERT that needs a resupply, so on). I don't believe that it'd end up working out better just because the ship is independent though. The Horizon not being independent is kind of exactly why it has "room" to be flexible outside of events, because they're given leeway. The independent has less support, more of a cost to wasting their own time but that's kind of a different conversation and kind of nitpicky ultimately tbh. Now, all things considered. I still think most problems this thread could be handled better by retooling the Horizon and some of the lore behind it. We don't need to be the "Flagship" and we shouldn't have ever been it in my opinion. We also don't need to be the "rejects" like how many considered the NSS Aurora to be, true or not.

I think the concept could make for a cool connected server or something along that line that uses Aurora's lore. Applying it to Aurora itself though, it would be such a massive change that I don't believe it'd be even right to refer to it as "Aurora" anymore. Independence is not the silver bullet that would open up a lot more character concepts, opportunities and so on. The charm of Aurora is the corporate setting and the people who exist within it, at least to me anyway. I think a lot of potential characters really aren't going to work on a ship where their standard of living is in constant flux, where it might be even more risky to the point gunrunning and raiding megacorpoate facilities are a few of the potentially expected jobs that you have to consider might be selected. The Horizon has had to take part in violence as well before it's mentioned, but it tends to be treated as exceptional circumstances and it's a lot different from actually signing on to regularly do these things. So I don't really like this, especially if it would change things here even in a hypothetical. I have played on servers like CEV Eris and can see the appeal of something more HRP in an independent context though. Hard to think of anything that has come close other than maybe Polaris? Map-wise it looks okay as a proof-of-concept. I think remapping the Horizon to look more like a self sufficient survey vessel along that line would be a good option.

You were so deep in the hole that you wanted to hurt someone who continually asked to have nothing to do with you again. That's the difference between you and a lot of other people who make staff complaints to contest a decision they feel was wrong. I think you know yourself that you're being dishonest here. All that aside, the reality is that you're going to have to talk with us even if you get unbanned and that we're going to expect changes. If you can't let go of your baggage or at least push it aside, I don't think you really belong here anymore. You should play on a different server with a different staff team if that doesn't sound acceptable.

Sure. This is accepted.

Would be nice and would probably cut down on the "please spawn X item" ticket requests.

Most if not all this is just rehashing the complaint on Mel, which you posted after I perma'd you. I'll link it here. My response there still applies, as does your behavior which appears to remain unchanged. Now, part of your post here. I tell you, you've been banned for your character's extremely LRP behavior during that plane crash round, something that's been a recurring theme for them on other rounds. Afterward, you begin spreading a conspiracy that Mel had a hand in it and was out to get you banned, which completely blindsided me, she wasn't even involved. I investigate and learn you've essentially been harassing her while I was on break. I perma you due to this. You then make a staff complaint on Mel and not me regarding the ban and when Alb points this out among other things you ask to close the complaint. Your behavior there is absolutely relevant to my considerations, more so than the warning by Matt you post on every thread regarding staff, which I handled three years ago and disciplined Matt over. Now you post this complaint after your appeal, in which you say you understand you were the issue. I think you were either lying to me due to this or the denial unfortunately had you repeat your problems. Regardless of whether you were sincere or not, you were never getting unbanned just a few months after what you did and continued to do afterward. That's called consequences and you have an issue accepting them. And here's the thing about your behaviour, mate. I've seen what you said over discord DMs and elsewhere. We've both talked about things you've said in-game before, you've demonstrated it on this thread, on Mel's thread, on other threads on the fourm. There's little if any positive comments regarding your conduct when I've asked others about it. If you're really going to make an appeal and say you understand you were at fault, this isn't a question you'd need to ask on this complaint. After all, you've said this on Mel's complaint. And the reason is pretty clear. So, Instead of putting on a "tedious loving smile" and forgiving us just this once, be a more civil person instead and show a baseline level of respect to other people. Not just staff. Not everyone is going to get along, but even a turtle isn't going to do what you do and randomly slander others off the cuff on OOC channels ingame. If you do that, there's no way you won't be unbanned even after yet another thread like this. Although I'd hope this is the last instance of you not accepting a judgement. It will take time and I'm not going to tell you this thread isn't also now another thing to note about your reactions. It is. But, yeah. Current thought is you are staying banned until close to the end of the year. If there are more problems before then, that might need to be reconsidered. Up to garn if he thinks that's reasonable though. And a note for Garn, we do have a lot of the Discord messages collated on the staffcord. Can link that later.