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I just want to say again, its not always the person's fault. Whenever I see peaceful antags not do much or anything, its because security/command catches them, and then they go out of their way to make life harder for them so they make them hostile so they can get their jollies fighting.

So what the game is and isn't designed to be is only an effective argument if the arguing point is beneficial to you? Because thats what you just said. Wizard is designed to infiltrate and cause cause conflict, thats your point. Frances' point says the ENTIRE game design was meant to weird, funky, and not at all HRP, yet its not at all an arguing point.

That actually sounds really nice. Especially because there are a few things that can only use that tiny box, PDA's, command announcements, emergency messages to central, which are generally longer than using "say" or "me" anyway.

You're right context, all the other RP servers with socks are just dirty, stinking cesspools of RP. Except they aren't, and can you believe they're actually used for character customization?

We're not going in circles, Im asking again because there aren't answers. Where in these posts, was it answered where it says wizards are made to cause conflict? Where is the answer to my question about why conflict automatically creates more, better RP than RP created peacefully?

To be fair, that isn't fun for wizards either, and the only reason they get stuck in that is because people want to push wizards to be that hostile "antag," even if its not what the other player wants. Example.

I can see why peace lings, vampires and traitors make people angry, those are stupid. But where does it say, anywhere, that wizards are SUPPOSED to cause conflict? They're there to contribute to RP. Why does conflict=RP, but Creating RP peacefully=Bad?

Yes, they're both working to contribute to other people's enjoyment, the biggest, pretty much only rule for an antag. So, why should one be punishable, and the other not?

You aren't saying you want to punish someone for playing badly, you're saying you want to punish people who are following the rules, because you don't like how they're playing, even though other people do like it.

Forget "game design" for a minute, this is a heavy RP server. If you want to go that route, we should just tell all antags to go Goon-tastic and kill everyone on sight, because thats the kind of game SS13 started from, and thats where the game modes come from, designed for brutal murder, not RP. And isn't what your saying sound a bit tyrannical? "I don't like when people do this. I wish I could make people who do that get punished."

How is a wizard who tries to kill people going to fit more people than a peace wizard? Let me ask, who gets involved with an angry, killing wizard? Security to stop them, and die, medical to heal those who are injured or killed, and command to a lesser to degree to coordinate those two. What about the poor bartender who looses business and RP during code blue and code red? Or the cargo staff that have the same fate? Also, show me where there is a rule that antags MUST create conflict and chaos, show me that rule. Because the only rule for antags beside the obvious ones is CONTRIBUTE TO OTHERS' ENJOYMENT. And the ONLY reason a wizard gets tied up talking to the captain or security is because of people who don't like peaceful "antags" and want them to get to the point of fighting.

I can understand why lings, vamps, ops, and traitors would be hostile and "antags," but antag is just a term that was given to them. In reality, they're just like any other player on the server. Given a job, but no set goals. Like I said, their only one, hardset "job" is to create situations for people's enjoyment. Is a doctor who preforms surgery any less valid than a doctor who treats someone in the ER? No, they're still doing their job. Is an officer who shoots down a mass murder any less valid than an officer who handles the paperwork and prisoners in the brig? No, they're still doing their job. Is a wizard who teleports onto the station and RP's peacefully with the crew any less valid than a wizard who has a quest to turn the station into DnD by force? Id say not.

You can make them, but they're empty. The point of, unless Im wrong,is to resupply the gasses, not the tanks.

You can make them, but they're empty. The point of, unless Im wrong,is to resupply the gasses, not the tanks.

This has been something that Ive been genuinely curious about for awhile. Why all the hate for peaceful antags? I know the name for the roles is literally short antagonist, but this is a heavy RP server, and as people are always so quick to point out, there are many avenues for RP, and that it shouldn't be limited. So, why should these special roles, where their main role is to enhance other player's roleplay, be limited?

Ive had an app sitting in my drafts for days while I was waiting on an answer for this, was this missed or something?

Its not like what they code gets put right into the game, they still need to put in a pull request that needs to get checked over whether they have permission or not. It just feels like whenever I see "What the hell are you doing? TALKING ABOUT CODE?! You need permission from the dev team to do that!" it feels like the dev team is just shutting out outside help, which is fucking stupid considering all the big dev projects that are going on, and how much is already screwed like the new map and Vacura.

I don't get why having "permission" to code something is so important. I mean, we have something in the Githhub for code donations, why is it so important? For the luck of a better word, the coders seem really tight about it, and to me it just looks like someone who wants to code something for us and is looking to see if people like the idea first. You'd think they'd be grateful, even more so since the largest update we've had this year was the Shell update that was made by someone that isn't even a coder for Aurora. But, beside all that, this is a REALLY good idea. It would take some of the stress off people who need to drop everything and run to the locker room like someone with a New York minute to spare because they want an outfit that only spawns once, in one certain spot in the entire station.

Are we spitting in the face of tradition democracy and telling everyone who we're voting for? Im game! I voted for Nasir.

Whatever did happen to Rectum? One day he just stopped coming on the server, and his account her was deleted.

Wow, I haven't seen you in a while, having you back will be... Retro

This is a question I came up with while parusing the Skrell wiki, in it it's said that Skrell created something to sterilize their women for most of their lives, however, how has this affected the Weurusian, since they denounce technology, would they be affected? Would they have refused the thing and reproduce normally, or would they have been forced to sterilize their women?