Chaplain Rework: Ideas Needed

[geeves]

I'm planning on reworking Chaplain sometime in the new future. It's a role I love to see people play, but hate to play myself. It feels like Aurora development proceeded and left it in the dust. Given how I'm not particularly religious myself, and that I'm kinda stupid, I thought it'd be a good thing to gather feedback from the community BEFORE even starting.

So, what would you like changed, removed, added? Do you have any sprites to contribute that I can put into the game? Sound effects, alt-titles, etcetera? (Note: if sounds and sprites get added, good licensing must be considered!)

The one thing that's off-limits is adding feminine versions of the job name (ie. Priest -> Priestess), as that will unfortunately mess with the job-code.

If you're wondering what prompted me to start this change, someone asked me for the best looking bible sprite, so I went into the .dmi's and found this:

(aw man)

[geeves]

Now for my non-introductory post, I'll add some code and sprites so you can gauge what's up.

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var/new_book_style = input(user,"Which bible style would you like?") in list("Bible", "Quran", "Scrapbook", "Creeper", "White Bible", "Holy Light", "Atheist", "Tome", "The King in Yellow", "Ithaqua", "Scientology", "the bible melts", "Necronomicon")

switch(new_book_style)

if("Quran")
icon_state = "quran"
item_state = "quran"

if("Scrapbook")
icon_state = "scrapbook"
item_state = "scrapbook"

if("Creeper")
icon_state = "creeper"
item_state = "creeper"

if("White Bible")
icon_state = "white"
item_state = "white"

if("Holy Light")
icon_state = "holylight"
item_state = "holylight"

if("Atheist")
icon_state = "atheist"
item_state = "atheist"

if("Tome")
icon_state = "tome"
item_state = "tome"

if("The King in Yellow")
icon_state = "kingyellow"
item_state = "kingyellow"

if("Ithaqua")
icon_state = "ithaqua"
item_state = "ithaqua"

if("Scientology")
icon_state = "scientology"
item_state = "scientology"

if("the bible melts")
icon_state = "melted"
item_state = "melted"

if("Necronomicon")
icon_state = "necronomicon"
item_state = "necronomicon"

else
icon_state = "bible"
item_state = "bible"

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[geeves]

A post that I'll edit for suggestions that was made privately via discord:

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https://github.com/Baystation12/Baystation12/pull/25748

Adds urns which can contain, move, and release ashes, and can be constructed from different materials. The Counselor gets a wooden urn in their locker on round start.

 

[Doxxmedearly]

Crozarius had a great idea I'd love to see implemented in this way: Harm intent clicking the tile you're on while holding a staff or rod plays the sound of hitting a riot shield with a baton, with a message. Great way to get attention before a fiery sermon.

[geeves]

12 minutes ago, Doxxmedearly said:

Crozarius had a great idea I'd love to see implemented in this way: Harm intent clicking the tile you're on while holding a staff or rod plays the sound of hitting a riot shield with a baton, with a message. Great way to get attention before a fiery sermon.

Implemented! (It works on any intent though, I believe. And has a cooldown.)

 

EDIT: Hijacking this post to link the PR, as well as the current changelog: https://github.com/Aurorastation/Aurora.3/pull/7323

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- Reassembling a null item now correctly assigns new values to it.

- You can no longer bonk yourself in the head when blessing people, if you're perfectly sane.

- Chance to prompt the convert path raised to 75% up from 33%. (Cultists should not mess around with chaplains.)

- Damage done by conversions reduced a tad.

- Chance of null rod waving curing some mental traumas raised by 10%.

- You can no longer accidentally bash the shit out of people with the null rod.

- Tapping your rod against the floor now makes a visible message, and reveals runes in a wider radius.

- Bibles now have better descriptors, meme sprites removed.

- Added new bible types, as well as a generic variant with no face.

- You can now only bless up to 60u of water, the amount that's in a flask. No more blessing water tanks.

- Adds craftable burial urns.

 

Edited November 3, 2019 by geeves
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[Azande]

There is a Christian rosary somewhere in the code that is a leftover from Bay's custom items - if it wasn't removed, it would be great if it spawned in the chaplain's locker for Christian/Catholic Priests.

It'd also be neat if when praying as chaplain:
- Your prayer is coloured differently to admins than non-Chaplains
- It includes your deity's name you selected automatically

And for all praying:
- It shows whatever religion you have set so the admins know your faith when receiving your prayers if it isn't obvious already through your prayer.

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

I didn't see this until I made the thread, but I've also created a suggestion revolving around adding relics to the chaplain.

 

[canon35]

I believe these items are still in the code, I saw some screenshots of it being adminspawned and a unathi wearing one during the halloween event. I decided to retire this character but if the items are still there, it could make a good holy garb for Tk'akh.



Just rename the chest piece to "Holy Wrappings", put a short descript saying it's usually worn by Tk'akh holy men to protect against spirits, and it should be golden. 

[Kaed]

20 minutes ago, canon35 said:

I believe these items are still in the code, I saw some screenshots of it being adminspawned and a unathi wearing one during the halloween event. I decided to retire this character but if the items are still there, it could make a good holy garb for Tk'akh.



Just rename the chest piece to "Holy Wrappings", put a short descript saying it's usually worn by Tk'akh holy men to protect against spirits, and it should be golden. 

That was me, I was wearing it during the halloween event uwu

Very good.

[geeves]

On 04/11/2019 at 03:16, Azande said:

There is a Christian rosary somewhere in the code that is a leftover from Bay's custom items - if it wasn't removed, it would be great if it spawned in the chaplain's locker for Christian/Catholic Priests.

Didn't find the sprite, but implemented my own anyway. It spawns in the bible once you use "Set Religion" on it and choose a Christian variant.

[geeves]

On 04/11/2019 at 03:16, Azande said:

It'd also be neat if when praying as chaplain:
- Your prayer is coloured differently to admins than non-Chaplains
- It includes your deity's name you selected automatically

And for all praying:
- It shows whatever religion you have set so the admins know your faith when receiving your prayers if it isn't obvious already through your prayer.

Tried to implement this. Coding for it sucked ass. Gonna leave it up to a future PR.

[Gem]

old/stale thread.

locking and archiving.