geeves Posted January 29, 2021 Posted January 29, 2021 BYOND Key: GeevesGame ID: cal-ddjjPlayer Byond Key/Character name: Omicega / Alicia ParkerStaff involved: None, I attempted to resolve it myself initially.Reason for complaint: In a hectic merc round with an officer down, Omicega threatened the captain with going to cryo, bringing a (confirmed) OOC element into it, being extremely rude while doing so. When I DM'd them to ask about it and talk it through, both of us were unable to come to an agreement, where it was decided that handing it off to administration would lead to the best outcome.Did you attempt to adminhelp the issue at the time? If so, what was the known action taken by administration/moderation? (Yes or no, then an explanation for why not, if applicable.): No. I attempted to resolve it myself initially.Approximate Date/Time: 30/01/2021, 1 AM (GMT +2)Evidence: I have some rude DMs as well, but I'm not going to post them publicly. I will give them to the staff handling this if it's needed for the investigation.Notes: I understand the round was incredibly frustrating for the player, but people I have asked say that this behavior is a norm for the player in question.
ShesTrying Posted January 29, 2021 Posted January 29, 2021 Hi. Myself and @BoryaTheSlayer will be handling this. In the mean time, @Omicega, id appreciate your side of events.
Omicega Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 Hello, Regarding Geeves' footnote about not wanting to post the rude DMs he received, presumably out of ostensible concern for my reputation or something, I'm going to firstly make it clear that I don't care at all if the DMs are shared, and go one step further and outright provide a Pastebin for anyone who's interested to look at them. There is nothing in there that I don't still stand by. https://pastebin.com/KMwn1QLw In addition to what I've said in there I don't have much else to add to this. I found the captain to be unhelpful, passive, and reluctant to step up to the plate in any capacity whatsoever while I was in round, and made no secret of my frustration with it. I admit that I think what I said was borderline OOC in IC, even if you could take cryoing out of the round as being a thoroughly IC mechanic. The main issue I have with this whole affair stems entirely from what Geeves said to me on Discord immediately after the fact -- namely, the threats that this should 'not happen again' and so on. I am perfectly fine with being warned, noted, or whatevered for my actions as long as it comes from a member of staff who actually has the authority to do that. I am not okay with being concern trolled and passive-aggressive apology fishing in my DMs in lieu of actually reporting an issue to staff so it can be resolved. I want to make it perfectly clear that I was not trying to call anyone's bluff by saying I would report it myself, and @MattAtlas can corroborate that I approached him on Discord about it within a couple of minutes. I said what I said with the full understanding that it was potentially a warnable/punishable/whateverable offense -- I think it's borderline at best -- but in the end I am fine with whatever the staff handling the complaint decide. As far as I was concerned, it was water under the bridge until I received the series of DMs insinuating that it would not be okay if it happened again, with very little actual substance to back that up. I am upset by how Geeves has chosen to handle this and I resent the footnotes to his complaint even more. The implication that I would not be okay with my 'rude' DMs being publicly shown is as irritating and aggravating to me as everything else about this complaint, as is the mysterious cabal of people Geeves has apparently spoken to who are allegedly backing him up. In short, I accept the complaint about what I said as being valid but wholly reject Geeves' behaviour in handling it. As Aurora development staff I would have expected him to take any potential rulebreaks he had regarding me to staff first and foremost instead of handling it as he did.
ShesTrying Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 After some discussion, Borya and I have come to the conclusion to note both of you. Omi, in the future, don't threaten OOC action ICly. Geeves, going forward, don't instigate discussions and egg players on. Avoid backseat moderation.
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