Player Complaint - Marlon Phoenix

[Alberyk]

BYOND Key: Alberyk

Game ID: This happened in the discords and the forums.

Player Byond Key/Character name: Marlon Phoenix

Staff involved: No one

 

Reason for complaint:

Marlon in his interactions in the discord and forums has constantly engaged in bad faith arguing, derailing discussion, and overall toxic behavior toward the community and people in it.

 

Some examples:

In this discussion, marlon just brushed my concerns as "it is just your opinion", which is pretty much condescending. He did this in another discussion, which was covered in the staff complaint:

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In the discussion of the first screenshoot, he claimed I told people we did not want feedback when someone said something about it, which I did not say this at all. He later tried to explain he missed what I wrote, but he send a message right away. He is either engaged in a discussion while not reading stuff, which just ends with him frustating people, or lied about not reading it:

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I never said that.

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At this point, I think he is doing it because I said that stuff he said was wrong, before explaining why. Why I think that:

In the end of this discussion, I think we asked about examples related to articles, which he decided to derail it again by putting someone on blast, which prompted people to get curious about who did this (which was over 6 years ago and got the person banned) instead of doing what he said he would (it is also very hypocrite behavior when he complains about people holding him for stuff he did years ago):

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In another discussion, in which he  tried to derail a discussion by bringing that cloning removed a lot of characters (no evidence of this) when we were talking about something else, he also ignored me when I asked him about it:

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In the discussion above, he also kept derailing the topic by defending an essentially made up position, kinda playing the devil's advocate, forcing everyone to explain him how things are done, because he did not join a canon event in years. Other people were also very frustated about it. After this discussion, I decided to block marlon from everywhere else:

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In a player complaint, he kept calling someone who said something mean to him an abuser, trying to paint them as a domestic abuse, which is really outlandish and toxic. There was no need to claim that the person was trying to get them in a circle of abuse, do not matter what people said. This is really unecessary and toxic:

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Claiming the the wiki dev team is a hostile ambient to work with without any evidence. This application was really low effort and just copy pasted from a previous lore one:

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Older stuff that shows a pattern:

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Derailing a discussion:

Joining the discord and then searching his name to make a complaint on people with barely readable logs, which is frankly just trying to dig up stuff:

Suggesting that a player is part of the alt-right movement based on stuff he said about lore:

Making a low-effort suggestion that claimed that necropolis uniforms were the nazi party brownshirt: uniform

 

This is only what I currently have and can remember. But a lot of other people expressed their concerns to me in pms and likely have other examples of his behavior.

Did you attempt to adminhelp the issue at the time? If so, what was the known action taken by administration/moderation? No, these are more than one incident and is a pattern of bad behavior.

In a player complaint, he kept claiming that 

Approximate Date/Time: It should be on the logs.

 

[Marlon P.]

By 2019 i was being sent porn and gore pictures by people in staff, and a group of ppl were in secret chats someone showed me talking about stabbing effigies of me and saying absolutely horrible things and coordinating harassment etc etc. I was having a bad time and was very abrasive as a product of that behavior towards me. Seeing i was being an ass is part of the reason i left. And i came back when a large part of that harrassment campaign got banned. The person that sent me those pictures is still on staff but they apologized and haven't done anything like it again so I've got no beef other than not wanting to talk to them. I again bring these up to contextualize why i was so stand-offish.

The person I complained against was engaging in bullying and abusive brhavior. I stand by that. It's not toxic to make the claim that i am being bullied and feel abused. I don't run around making that accusation. I think I've pointed out to someone once they were using the same language as the harrassers did back in 2019 and that person stopped doing it so i had no more beef. That complaint came about when the behavior got so bad i wanted it addressed by staff.

Earlier today someone ive never met posted a now-deleted post in response to me asking a loredeputy applicant about some beef it feels like we have. that  former lore stafferbsaid new lore staff hired are warned about me, to "avoid having the displeasure of talking to me."  And the former lorestaffer made wild statements about my person. I didn't violate any rules when asking the OP about beef, but that former loredev did. They even said I'm only playing the game again because i got "called out" about playtime. Like how do i engage with that? Damned if i do play damned if i dont play. Its automatically me being insidious and conspiring against my so-called enemies' future arguments.

You call my past work bullshit and you striked against me for saying it was your opinion. It didn't violate any rules, even though I will say you definately do get a rise out of me sometimes when you talk about my stuff in rude ways. I don't having staffers call my work 'bullshit'. Neither do/should you or anyone. Your strike was overturned.

I can't prove or disprove i misread a series of discord messages. Not sure what to say about that.

I do have criticisms about lore stuff. How should i disagree about the direction of things? I try to form my thoughts on the discord, hear what ppl say, then post a big thread about what i think should be changed.

It seems like with staff members saying how new hires are warned about me and my evils, that when i make statements intended to be neutral its assumed im trying to be a massive prick. Then when I'm responded to in a way that annoys me, I get annoyed right back, and the logs look really unflattering when put back to back.

How do I address and resolve these situations?

Is everything here entirely no ones fault but my own?

Edited August 8, 2022 by Marlon P.

[Alberyk]

46 minutes ago, Marlon P. said:

In 2019 i was being sent porn and gore pictures by people in staff, and a group of ppl were in secret chats someone showed me talking about stabbing effigies of me etc. I was having a bad time and was very abrasive as a product of that behavior towards me. Seeing i was being an ass is part of the reason i left. And i came back when a large part of that harrassment campaign got banned. The person that sent me those pictures is still on staff but they apologized and haven't done anything like it again so I've got no beef other than not wanting to talk to them. I again bring these up to contextualize why i was so stand-offish.

 

The discussion in the discord had nothing to do with what happened in 2019. You decided to bring it up without this ever being the context of the conversation. You were derailing a lore discussion about something unrelated by bringing it up. It prompted a lot of people to get curious and try to find out who did it. 

46 minutes ago, Marlon P. said:

The person I complained against was engaging in bullying and abusive brhavior. I stand by that. It's not toxic to make the claim that i am being bullied and feel abused. I don't run around making that accusation. I think I've pointed out to someone once they were usig

 

You can do that without pulling some kind of checklist to try to paint them as an abuser or something. How would you feel if I pointed to an article and just claimed you were mentally abusing me because you were doing one of the things in the list? My issue is how you did this which  was soapboxing.

46 minutes ago, Marlon P. said:

Earlier today someone ive never met posted a now-deleted post in response to me asking a loredeputy applicant about some beef it feels like we have. that  former lore stafferbsaid new lore staff hired are warned about me, to "avoid having the displeasure of talking to me."  And the former lorestaffer made wild statements about my person. I didn't violate any rules when asking the OP about beef, but that former loredev did. They even said I'm only playing the game again because i got "called out" about playtime. Like how do i engage with that? Damned if i do play damned if i dont play. Its automatically me being insidious and conspiring against my so-called enemies' future arguments.

 

What this has to do with anything here? You are trying to derail this discussion. This is about your behavior, not whatever else someone posted somewhere else.

46 minutes ago, Marlon P. said:

You call my past work bullshit and you striked against me for saying it was your opinion. It didn't violate any rules, even though I will say you definately do get a rise out of me sometimes when you talk about my stuff in rude ways. I don't having staffers call my work 'bullshit'. Neither do/should you or anyone. Your strike was overturned.

 

My point is that it is a pattern of behavior, which happened before without me calling anything bullshit. You were still just being dismissive of whatever I said with "it is just your opinion".

46 minutes ago, Marlon P. said:

I do have criticisms about lore stuff. How should i disagree about the direction of things? I try to form my thoughts on the discord, hear what ppl say, then post a big thread about what i think should be changed.

 

Not what this complaint is about. Nowhere I said you can't disagree or give feedback.

46 minutes ago, Marlon P. said:

It seems like with staff members saying how new hires are warned about me and my evils, that when i make statements intended to be neutral its assumed im trying to be a massive prick. Then when I'm responded to in a way that annoys me, I get annoyed right back, and the logs look really unflattering when put back to back.

 

And what the wikiteam has to do with it? How is it a non-friendly environment? What the wikidev team did? If you think you can bring up what someone did in the past out of the context in a conversation, someone can do that in an application that should in fact take in consideration your behavior.

46 minutes ago, Marlon P. said:

How do I address and resolve these situations?

 

Whoever handles this complaint will likely do what they think it is best. I will keep you blocked and won't interact with you unless it is necessary for a while.

46 minutes ago, Marlon P. said:

Is everything here entirely no ones fault but my own?

This complaint is about your behavior.

[Marlon P.]

I'm using the storied to show the behavior from your team towards me. You + others violated rule 2 towards me. I do my best to remain civil.

I'm not going to litigate in this complaint all the situations where I've felt slighted or mistreated. Im not interested in digging up logs over years of time for complaint threads unless asked by the handler. If something got bad enough I DM a staff member. If it's recurring, i make a complaint on the forums. I've sent complaints to admins in DMs then forgot about whatever it was when it was handled/addressed. You aren't obligated to me justifying my feelings. The admin im talking to is though.

I obviously wouldn't like being called abusive but it's not up to me. I have sat down with three people who said i was abusive to and i said they were abusive to me during the harrassment era, and we hashed out how we were bringing each other down and became either friends outside aurora or came on friendly terms. So I've had that accusation before and have experiences with it at all angles. It's a serious one. I still stand by it from that complaint, in which the person did get punished for violating the rules. Abuse isnt just "being mean" for example.

Blocking me is fine with me, since there are other admins to bring issues to. If we dont get along then we dont get along. 

As for saying this isnt a friendly enviroment i mean... this thread. And a staffer saying staff are warned to ignore me. And being rude.  Lol.

I cant know a mans intentions, but i will say this feels retaliatory. You have logs to specific conversations going back to three years, but waited until after I had a staff complaint against you to post them all. This is after you've gotten aggro towards me on discord -- "which was bullshit" -- and I did bring up the periodic aggro to an admin but never really took action until the strike, since it seemed rude but not rulebreaking

I know the complaint is about my behavior. I'm asking what about my behavior should change when i get into these situations. For example, what should i do when you call my work bullshit and i want to disagree?

How do i respond to staff members saying they tell everyone I'm an asshole, and encouraging lore staff to intentionally ignore me? How can i possibly have 2 sided civil conversations when me even playing the game is seen by you + others as simply a conspiracy by me to win arguments? 

I genuinely don't understand.

Edited August 8, 2022 by Marlon P.

[Alberyk]

1 hour ago, Marlon P. said:

I'm using the storied to show the behavior from your team towards me. You + others violated rule 2 towards me. I do my best to remain civil.

What this has to do with bringing up what someone sent to you in a discussion over lore? You were derailing it still.

1 hour ago, Marlon P. said:

I cant know a mans intentions, but i will say this feels retaliatory. You have logs to specific conversations going back to three years, but waited until after I had a staff complaint against you to post them all. This is after you've gotten aggro towards me on discord -- "which was bullshit" -- and I did bring up the periodic aggro to an admin but never really took action until the strike, since it seemed rude but not rulebreaking

I applied the strike because it is not the first time you did that stuff. I was told i could not handle as staff then i made a complaint. Only two pieces of evidence are that old but shows that a pattern exists.

1 hour ago, Marlon P. said:

I know the complaint is about my behavior. I'm asking what about my behavior should change when i get into these situations. For example, what should i do when you call my work bullshit and i want to disagree?

How do i respond to staff members saying they tell everyone I'm an asshole, and encouraging lore staff to intentionally ignore me? How can i possibly have 2 sided civil conversations when me even playing the game is seen by you + others as simply a conspiracy by me to win arguments? 

You are ignoring the other problems, like derailing and arguing in bad faith. If you have an issue with anyone, make a complaint or report them. Whatever people do does not justify your behavior. No one was harrassing you or doing that in most of the cases i brought up.

[Marlon P.]

I'm not ignoring them. You posted two years worth of logs. Ill circle back if i miss anything and don't forget. Remind me if i dont address something again.

i dont agree anything was bad faith nor derailing. 

I said biplane was being mean so i blocked him. He basically said "you dont even play so you don't get an opinion."

I still hold the opinion that events are bloody. It's just a fact of things. Belittling me by gatekeeping is rude. So i made clear i blocked them so they wouldn't waste their time continuing the conversation with me since i wouldn't see it.

I dont think i ran around claiming people were harrassing me. Harrassment isnt being rude. Even breaking rule 2 isnt Harrassment inherently, iirc. Its Harrassment if they go out if their way to keep @'ing me or something. Like that person i player-complained did + more that they did.

I don't think i need to publically post in my application thread logs and evidence of feeling unwelcome by the team. I guess i could post that image of one of your former devs openly saying your entire team is warned to not talk to me and  in that same post insulting me. Do you want me to do that here? What would it accomplish? It's already been resolved by admins. I wasn't toxic for saying i felt i was facing abusive behavior.

 

[Marlon P.]

The actions you say i should take -- constantly making public complaints and throwing out logs in public whenever i feel slighted - seem a lot more toxic than how i already handle it. So i won't be doing that unless asked by a handling admin.

[Roostercat]

Hi. I'm going to be taking this complaint. Give me a bit to re-read it all and come up with a response as there is a LOT to read and review here and the logs on discord which I will probably go look at myself as well. 

 

As a preface in case replies go out whilst I do the above, I am going to address some things that stand out to me. 

7 hours ago, Marlon P. said:

 

Earlier today someone ive never met posted a now-deleted post in response to me asking a loredeputy applicant about some beef it feels like we have. that  former lore stafferbsaid new lore staff hired are warned about me, to "avoid having the displeasure of talking to me."  And the former lorestaffer made wild statements about my person. I didn't violate any rules when asking the OP about beef, but that former loredev did. They even said I'm only playing the game again because i got "called out" about playtime. Like how do i engage with that? Damned if i do play damned if i dont play. Its automatically me being insidious and conspiring against my so-called enemies' future arguments.

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To my knowledge as former lorestaff, this is not true. New staff are not warned about your existence, at least not as far as I am aware. Either way, this incident and things surrounding it is relatively irrelevant to the complaint, please cease talking about it.

 

7 hours ago, Marlon P. said:

By 2019 i was being sent porn and gore pictures by people in staff, and a group of ppl were in secret chats someone showed me talking about stabbing effigies of me and saying absolutely horrible things and coordinating harassment etc etc. I was having a bad time and was very abrasive as a product of that behavior towards me. Seeing i was being an ass is part of the reason i left. And i came back when a large part of that harrassment campaign got banned. The person that sent me those pictures is still on staff but they apologized and haven't done anything like it again so I've got no beef other than not wanting to talk to them. I again bring these up to contextualize why i was so stand-offish.

 

This incident in particular is also irrelevant. Things done to you do not justify what you do to others. Cease talking about this as well.

 

In general, be careful about what is brought up here. This is about an alleged pattern of behavior regarding derailing conversations and general toxicity, and anything not directly involved with that should not be discussed.

6 hours ago, Marlon P. said:

 

I cant know a mans intentions, but i will say this feels retaliatory. You have logs to specific conversations going back to three years, but waited until after I had a staff complaint against you to post them all. This is after you've gotten aggro towards me on discord -- "which was bullshit" -- and I did bring up the periodic aggro to an admin but never really took action until the strike, since it seemed rude but not rulebreaking

 

While the timing does make it look retaliatory, I will say there is enough stuff on this complaint to take it seriously regardless, not that I've come to any decisions yet. Please don't bring this up again either. 

 

With that out of the way, I'll reply again soon with questions and-or maybe a verdict after ive reviewed everything. 

 

[Marlon P.]

I get you roostercat. You're right.

I'll answer questions then, otherwise I don't think I have anything more to add.

Edited August 9, 2022 by Marlon P.

[Roostercat]

Going to take this opportunity to say that nobody should post on this without actual evidence to back it up, and only if you are actually involved. DM me on discord if you aren't sure if you fall into the involved category. 

[Marlon P.]

On 08/08/2022 at 11:12, Alberyk said:

In the end of this discussion, I think we asked about examples related to articles, which he decided to derail it again by putting someone on blast, which prompted people to get curious about who did this (which was over 6 years ago and got the person banned) instead of doing what he said he would (it is also very hypocrite behavior when he complains about people holding him for stuff he did years ago

I remember this convo and i said id address it actually.

At the convo time was looking back at old DMs from a staffer to get some relevant info on the topic and saw that the 2 images of a punctured foot and two ppl banging are still in the DM history, not even half a scroll wheel up. They never removed the offensive images.

Seeing the graphic images upset me and i and i did derail. I apologize. I hope this is understandable.

I was am and will point out the bizarre intensity people have for this type of spaceship unathi have. For years ive seen ppl randomly bring up the ship without prompting sometimes and get worked up about it and make wild claims that they walk back when i ask about it. Like there's genuine misinformation about this thing. It's so strange.

The @ at the end is me poking fun at waking up four days in a row to @'s with lore facts about some misconceptionsi had. I guess the joke bombed. 

The logs about us talking and you saying "which was bullshit" have been litigated already. Nothing to add.

Actually i want to ask you @Roostercat. OP alleges i made the claim that there's hostility towards me and that i have no evidence. Is a post alleging a concerted effort to disparge me evidence that the vibes i was getting had/have a factual basis? I guess its asking to reconsider the relevancy of the forum post i mentioned.

On 08/08/2022 at 11:12, Alberyk said:

cloning removed a lot of characters (no evidence of this) 

It is a fact that it did, as i have no reason to believe that iirc three people with no connection to each other individually lied to me about having to retcon characters out due to the change, or voluntarily retiring them because they did not want to retcon. I don't talk to two of them anymore (no beef) and I don't think plays ss13 anymore. I was countering the offhand dismissiveness saying no one lost any chars ever.

Anyway i support the cloning removal. Aurora never really wanted to lean in on it, so it works better for what the loredevs and team want. It's just balancing the consequences towards people it deleted vs the benefits. That's not toxic imo, it's just cost/benefit analysis.

For my warned post, it was aggro definately. I don't remember if thats the one i went back to edit after posting, before a warning, bcuz I decided it was more aggro than i intended it to be. I have a more recent thread breaking down the problem of the whitelist standards. I actually forgot i made this post and i see I still use the same points. It really is how something is said...

For my complaint with logs... i don't know. Isn't this complaint also digging up old stuff? It doesn't make that or this complaint less valid i think.

I made the complaint cuz i come back and see people i don't know or barely remember making rude comments about me years after i left in ways I felt violated rule 2. I wanted them to stop.

It doesn't feel like they stopped, since i still have to keep blocking them...

I don't know what other alternative i have if not making complaints on people i find to be breaking rules in order to ask staff to litigate misbehavior. What should I do when i feel someone is treating me in ways that break the rules?

Edited August 9, 2022 by Marlon P.

[Caelphon]

I spoke to @Roostercat to determine whether I was allowed to post here. They determinned that I was. 

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https://discord.com/channels/724651070017765459/725209033883254804/993755797832093706

This is in regards to another discussion, not in relation to the images shared earlier. They have since editted some statements that are designed to make me seem as if I am coming with a right hook. 

There have been several times where Marlon has performed what Alberyk outlined in his reasoning for this complaint. 

Several times I have engaged in discussions with this person where it feels as if they create strawman arguments that aim to cause frustration among those involved in said discussions. They regularly do so, where I called them out on it in the second spoiler (discord link) and they acted as if these far-reaching goals of destroying his lore and somehow tackling and destroying any kind of headcanon that exists. There have been times where I felt it necessary to issue a strike on the lore discord, but I do not believe that I have permissions there (due to a mixup) despite lore writers being the primary moderators. 

I believe that the strike applied by Alberyk was completely justified, and I wish I was able to do so in order to deter this repeated behaviour by Marlon. I believe many would agree, considering they have been burnt by similar situations outlined in Alberyk's reasoning for his complaint. 

EDIT: I wish to add that Marlon frequently goes back and edits his statements in discord that make them seem like the innocent party. 

Edited August 10, 2022 by Caelphon

[Marlon P.]

I edit my statements immediately when i find i can word what i said better, usually immediately after posting or to fix a typo. The messages always say the same thing. Ive done it for longer than discord has existed. You can see it in my entire history going back to like 2014.

Youre claiming im doing it to make others look bad, or if i find a meme to be posted in the wrong ppace.

How on earth do i prove or disprove its a conspiracy to make you look bad? It is wrong. 

I stand by everything i said in what you screenshotted. The person i was talking to was repeatedly being rude and demeaning me until it culminated in my complaint. I expressed why i was upset in a civil and polite way while being upset. 

I don't say youre destroying my lore. If i had my way I'd throw out most of what i started. I have @'ed you with suggestions to retcon, delete, and change policies i implemented that i notice dont jive with your managerial style. I also criticize some decisions while suggesting preferred alternatives.

You are taking neutral statements from me and assigning malicious intentions.

The strike was not justified as outlined in the staff complaint. If this is relitigating my strike this needs to be a staff complaint against the admin that overturned it.

I again want to complain to the handling staffer @Roostercat that caelphon is making unjustified accusations about my message editing in a way i find to be borderline character assassination. It's unfounded and has no evidence that ive acted on attempts to ruin his character.

This complaint has a head admin call me toxic for calling out abuse towards me and a loremaster claiming I'm trying to ruin his reputation with malicious intentions and underhanded means for no discernable goal.

I hope this is additional evidence to provide on why i withdrew my application to join staff due to feeling unwelcome.

Edited August 10, 2022 by Marlon P.

[Marlon P.]

I fixed a typo but to avoid looking malacious i will doublepost:

What i mean to say is: he is attributing on me a conspiracy against him to make him look bad. 

EDIT: I lied about not editing, because I don't want to triple-post.

I found this when looking back. This is why I made the joke, thinking alb was in on it:

I don't think it's rulebreaking to awkwardly continue a gag.

Edited August 12, 2022 by Marlon P.

[Roostercat]

 

I'm still mulling over logs and things, but whilst I do that I'll address some things that have come up since my last post.

On 10/08/2022 at 10:22, Marlon P. said:

 

I again want to complain to the handling staffer @Roostercat that caelphon is making unjustified accusations about my message editing in a way i find to be borderline character assassination. It's unfounded and has no evidence that ive acted on attempts to ruin his character.

This complaint has a head admin call me toxic for calling out abuse towards me and a loremaster claiming I'm trying to ruin his reputation with malicious intentions and underhanded means for no discernable goal.

 

This complaint is about your past behavior and a pattern of toxic attitude/derailment. It encompasses much more than calling you toxic "for calling out abuse" and I gave Cael permission to post with his piece because it is relevant, and not unfounded. 

 

On 09/08/2022 at 01:16, Marlon P. said:

 

For my complaint with logs... i don't know. Isn't this complaint also digging up old stuff? It doesn't make that or this complaint less valid i think.

 

This complaint mostly has recent things, at least the past six months.

 

On 10/08/2022 at 08:31, Caelphon said:

 

 

I believe that the strike applied by Alberyk was completely justified, and I wish I was able to do so in order to deter this repeated behaviour by Marlon. I believe many would agree, considering they have been burnt by similar situations outlined in Alberyk's reasoning for his complaint. 

 

I am going to stress again that I have deemed Alberyk's strike irrelevant. Stop posting about it. That goes for everyone here. 

 

On 09/08/2022 at 01:16, Marlon P. said:

 

Actually i want to ask you @Roostercat. OP alleges i made the claim that there's hostility towards me and that i have no evidence. Is a post alleging a concerted effort to disparge me evidence that the vibes i was getting had/have a factual basis? I guess its asking to reconsider the relevancy of the forum post i mentioned.

 

With the wording you used, I am really confused about what you are asking me here. 

[Marlon P.]

21 minutes ago, Roostercat said:

With the wording you used, I am really confused about what you are asking me here. 

Nevermind. I understand that proving accusation of not giving evidence of something by the OP is not what I'm meant to do to defend myself. This is not the place to challenge it.

I would like to instead ask what I can do to participate in this thread in a constructive way.

Edited August 12, 2022 by Marlon P.

[Roostercat]

Okay, after painstakingly looking through logs as well as this thread a few times, I believe I have come to a conclusion.

 

Overall, I believe your behavior has been very poor, and not reflective of what we consider decent for a player. You play Devil's Advocate a lot, half the time with no real reason beyond doing it just for the sake of it during arguments over the state of Aurora's events. You say that people are getting mad at you and saying you have no opinion because you do not play, but at the same time you constantly chastise other people's opinions when they do play, like I said, playing Devil's Advocate. This has been brought up many times, you know not to do this, yet you continue anyway. 

This conversation about throwaway characters in particular comes to mind. 

 

This led to people getting upset because you keep contradicting the general opinion despite having not played in events for a long time. This is an issue. 

 

On the subject of the complaint involving abuse, I really believe you misuse the term abuse to make people that disagree with you look worse. The main instance is the argument on discord regarding the pride flag spam where you claim someone is using the language of your abusers simply because they were upset about your attitude. This is not something to label someone an abuser over. ESPECIALLY in a complaint on the forums with a link to the definition of mental abuse, which was over the top and unneccessary. The pride flag issue itself was also something you started, by spamming pride flag emojis on everything the same person posted, leading to a lot of annoyance and an argument with the current loremaster. 

 

In addition, you show a consistent tendency to derail conversations, sometimes with a made up position and other times with something completely irrelevant to the conversation, such as bringing up what people sent you in DMs after being asked to explain your position or bringing up cloning changes during something else. This just throws conversations out of whack and prevents people from talking seriously about things, which is not okay. 

 

All of that coupled with other behaviors, such as being condescending and arguing in bad faith, shows a toxic attitude that is not welcome on this server. If you are not going to treat others with respect and good faith, then you are not going to be allowed in the community. You have been told about this and warned about this countless times, and show no signs of changing, especially since you stand by all of them, as per your responses to this thread. For that reason, I am going to be applying a permanent ban to your account both for discord and the game until appeal. 

 

This complaint is considered resolved, and if there is nothing else, I will be locking and archiving it tomorrow. 

[Marlon P.]

Thanks for your time.