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Staff Complaint - Loorey - Misunderstood or misinterpreted Relay message


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BYOND Key: rickymadenson
Staff BYOND Key: Loorey
Game ID: This occured on the Aurora discord, specifcally the SCC-Relay channel.

Reason for complaint: Hello. Earlier this day, I was partaking in the Relay channel in-character as my character, Eva Meier. I regularly do this on occassions where I have downtime between work or just downtime in general to partake in some IC chatter. 

I had a conversation with another character ICly, Tesset Gainsbloom and others. The chatter between our characters mostly involved talks about strict parents, and jokes about dying their hair. 

During this talks. Gainsbloom revealed that her hair colour was unnatural, and that she kept her 'true hair colour' a secret. During this exchange, Meier tried to poke at it to get an answer. From one of the exchanges, Meier commented on how her mother would refer to her as a 'dreg' for dying her hair at a younger, rebellious age. 

Upon this exchange. Gainsbloom was unfamiliar with the term drag, but also included in her messenging that she would keep her hair colour a secret.

This is where the incident occured, and I believe, where the misunderstanding took place: 

 

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In retrospect, I realize now that it may have appeared as if Meier was implying that 'dreg = brown', and I am here to make clear that this was NOT my intend with this message. her comment was intended to be a 'gotcha' to the hair colour secret that Gainsbloom was keeping. I did not intend for Meier to imply in any shape or form that Dreg and 'Brown' is somehow a synonymous thing.

 

Evidence/logs/etc: This is the message exchange from before. image.thumb.png.f2153f595739d92236d859e9fa438e9f.png

 

And this is the actual strike that I was given.

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Additional remarks: Again, I do not like calling this a complaint, but I would have appreciated if this was at least talked about to clear things up. I understand strikes are ultimately up to staff's discretion as they just one of many tools for staff to deploy, and given the implications that were assumed, this could have been a much severe punishment otherwise. Nevertheless, I do not think this strike justifies remaining as a permanent stain on my record.

I only discovered this message a little later after the initial post was already made, and I will admit that it got me fuming and see red given the accusation. Thankfully, after checking things with a staff member and looking back at the message in context, I see why Loorey could've interpretated that message the way it was.

 

Edited by Ricky_the_banshee
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Hi.

I was DM'd by someone that saw the conversation taking place, when I took a minute to go over the conversation to get context, it looked like you were just using the word 'dreg' for 'brown', which, your reply clearly implies looking at it. I had the entire context with the hair colour conversation, though, you specifically replying to that one message with just 'brown' made it seem like you were doing that, at least in my eyes. It could just be a misunderstanding, no bad blood, though if it is I recommend you be a bit more careful with what you reply to as that can quickly change context. That is all I really have to add, if there's anything else to clarify let me know, otherwise I am leaving the rest to read.

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53 minutes ago, Loorey said:

Hi.

I was DM'd by someone that saw the conversation taking place, when I took a minute to go over the conversation to get context, it looked like you were just using the word 'dreg' for 'brown', which, your reply clearly implies looking at it. I had the entire context with the hair colour conversation, though, you specifically replying to that one message with just 'brown' made it seem like you were doing that, at least in my eyes. It could just be a misunderstanding, no bad blood, though if it is I recommend you be a bit more careful with what you reply to as that can quickly change context. That is all I really have to add, if there's anything else to clarify let me know, otherwise I am leaving the rest to read.

Hey, it's all good.

Like I said before, I'm not a huge fan of necessarily calling this a 'staff complaint' due to how much of a negative connotation it weights in. From a staff member perspective, I can totally understand how the negative implications would take the forefront whilst investigating a concern from another community member.

 

To make it absolutely clear. I was not trying to make a racial joke in IC, or have some double meaning behind it OOCly in case anyone involved in the complaint or observing may have these suspicions. It was just a very poor choice of a message to stich that message too. 

What I just hope is that this misunderstanding is cleared up, and that people understand that this was just that. A misunderstanding, and to my part, poorly worded response to an IC message. In restrospect, just a few extra words could've made it clear that I was referring to the hair, but due to external distractions while I was engaged with that chat, I ended up going for the worst one in that context. 

If its possible, I would like for the strike to be rescinded. If any other else needs to be said, I will do what I can to answer them
 

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23 hours ago, ReadThisNamePlz said:

Okay so I took a while to think on this. 

I do not think @Ricky_the_banshee meant anything negative by this at all. I genuinely think you just fucked up your verbiage. This happens. I'll talk with Arrow to see if he can get the strike removed. 

Thanks for looking into this. I would be lying if I said this situation on its own wasn't embarassing enough since I have to sit here and awkwardly explain this IC message that, from a glance alone, looks VERY bad. I am happy you guys understand that I meant no ill-will at all.

I would also like to apologize for my conduct in the general chat around the time I discovered the strike. Admittedly, I was seeing red when I got the strike, not fully understanding what it was that I wrote as my character that led to it. 

 

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