SierraKomodo Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 DISCLAIMER: I am not a lore dev, this is not /officially/ confirmed, but is a good reference for seeing how much your character makes. Jackboot's confirmed that, currently, the conversion rate of credits to dollars is approximately 3cR : $1 USD (Subject to change when and if Skull gets the economy update rolling). Based on this, and the paygrade tiers shown on the wiki, I've come up with the following payscale after referencing the 2016 payscale for the U.S. military. The reduced pay column is for species that don't get the full pay (Tajaran, Unathi, Diona, Vaurca, and IPC). The numbers aren't exact; I rounded credits to the nearest multiple of 5 for convenience sake. References for everything is below. The amounts below are an estimated monthly earning for each tier within NanoTrasen. This does not include any potential fees, taxxes, benefits, bonuses, hazard pay, etc. NON COMMAND STAFF Tier Pay USD Equiv. Reduced USD Equiv. 1 4,700 cR $ 1,566.67 3,995 cR $ 1,331.67 2 5,270 cR $ 1,756.67 4,470 cR $ 1,490.00 3 6,245 cR $ 2,081.67 5,310 cR $ 1,770.00 4 7,450 cR $ 2,483.33 6,335 cR $ 2,111.67 5 9,445 cR $ 3,148.33 8,030 cR $ 2,676.67 6 10,225 cR $ 3,408.33 8,690 cR $ 2,896.67 7 11,385 cR $ 3,795.00 9,675 cR $ 3,225.00 8 12,690 cR $ 4,230.00 10,785 cR $ 3,595.00 9 14,845 cR $ 4,948.33 12,620 cR $ 4,206.67 COMMAND STAFF Tier Pay USD Equiv. Reduced USD Equiv. 10 12,875 cR $ 4,291.67 10,945 cR $ 3,648.33 11 15,435 cR $ 5,145.00 13,120 cR $ 4,373.33 12 17,995 cR $ 5,998.33 15,300 cR $ 5,100.00 13 20,235 cR $ 6,745.00 17,200 cR $ 5,733.33 14 21,330 cR $ 7,110.00 18,130 cR $ 6,043.33 And below is a list of jobs and their relevant paygrade tiers based on the wiki (In most cases, Level 2 is after 10 years of employment (5 years of command experience for command staff), level 3 is after 15 years of employment). Random trivia: This is the same list used to determine someone's 'Rank' when I'm playing Kunai: Job L1 L2 L3 Assistant 1 5 9 Intern/Apprent. 2 * Interns/Apprentices are assumed to only hold the position for their 1st year Atmos Tech 5 8 9 Bartender 3 5 9 Botanist 3 5 9 Captain 12 12 13 Cargo Tech 3 5 9 Chaplain 3 5 9 Chef 3 5 9 Chemist 7 7 9 Forensic Tech 6 6 9 Detective 6 6 9 EMT/Paramedic 5 5 9 Genticist 8 8 9 Heads of Staff 10 11 11 IAA 9 9 9 Janitor 3 5 9 Librarian 3 5 9 Doctor/Surgeon 7 7 9 Nurse 5 5 9 * NOT a Nursing Intern Psychiatrist 8 8 9 Quartermaster 5 5 9 Scientist 7 7 9 Sec Officer 4 5 9 Shaft Miner 4 5 9 Engineer 6 8 9 * Includes alternate engineering titles Virologist 8 8 9 Warden 6 6 9 Xenoarchaelogist 8 8 9 Xenobiologist 8 8 9 Military Paygrade Schedule - Amounts were based off the 10 year row: http://www.militaryfactory.com/military_pay_scale.asp Employment tiers from the wiki: http://aurorastation.org/wiki/index.php?title=NanoTrasen_Occupation_Qualifications http://aurorastation.org/wiki/index.php?title=NanoTrasen_Corporate_Finances Summarized employment tiers in excel format: http://bts.sierrabrown.me/aurora/ranks.xlsm Quote Link to comment
Owen Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Oh, this is actually really interesting. I hope this is actually what it is. Also, I don't see a L14 job on the list. Is that like a higher rank than Captain or just not added? Quote Link to comment
Jboy2000000 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Theres also nothing that uses the scale 14 payment, weirdly enough. Quote Link to comment
Owen Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Theres also nothing that uses the scale 14 payment, weirdly enough. Yeah that is what I meant, but after checking the list there isn't a 14 either. Possibly an oversight. Or maybe some sort of super captain xD Quote Link to comment
Gollee Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Duty Officers perhaps? Quote Link to comment
Jboy2000000 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Oh I thought you said "L4" like a level 4 job. Quote Link to comment
Owen Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Duty Officers perhaps? I was thinking that but I wasn't sure if it was going to be counted on here. Quote Link to comment
SierraKomodo Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Duty Officers perhaps? This is what I was thinking of when I was putting together the lists, but I forgot to include it in the job listing since it's not on the server join-as-department thing Quote Link to comment
Jboy2000000 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Wait a fucking minute. Are you telling me assistants who've been working for Nanotrasen for 20+ years earn the same as an IAA right outta compton? Quote Link to comment
SierraKomodo Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 Wait a fucking minute. Are you telling me assistants who've been working for Nanotrasen for 20+ years earn the same as an IAA right outta compton? According to the wiki, they're under the same payscale. Keep in mind IAA has specific requirements before you get hired. Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Wait a fucking minute. Are you telling me assistants who've been working for Nanotrasen for 20+ years earn the same as an IAA right outta compton? You don't find IAA's that are straight out of Compton, you have to be a trusted member of staff to get into the Internal Affairs Department. Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I though 1 S.C. was 3.2 U.S.D not the other way around. Quote Link to comment
Owen Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I though 1 S.C. was 3.2 U.S.D not the other way around. Possibly, it does sort of seem that the credits were worth less than I thought they were. Considering the lack of money that each person has ingame. But if Jackboot confirmed it, we are probably wrong on that. Quote Link to comment
SierraKomodo Posted January 20, 2016 Author Share Posted January 20, 2016 From the log, it seemed Jackboot kept reversing the numbers and confusing himself xD [1/12/2016 11:55:13 AM] Sierra "KOMODO" Brown: Hai, got a lore question[1/12/2016 11:55:31 AM] Jackboot: hello [1/12/2016 11:55:49 AM] Sierra "KOMODO" Brown: More of a clarification. Conversion of USD to Credits is $3 = 1Cr? [1/12/2016 11:55:56 AM] Jackboot: Just about [1/12/2016 11:56:03 AM] Jackboot: No, excuse me [1/12/2016 11:56:26 AM] Sierra "KOMODO" Brown: Asking because I'm looking up paygrades, costs of living, etc to determine where each of my characters fall. [1/12/2016 11:56:33 AM] Jackboot: 4,000 credits is roughly equal in purchasing power as 12,000 [1/12/2016 11:56:42 AM] Sierra "KOMODO" Brown: And I might pose a suggested general payscale based upon the 2016 military pay tables [1/12/2016 11:57:17 AM] Sierra "KOMODO" Brown: So, roughly, a 1:3 ratio [1/12/2016 11:57:21 AM] Sierra "KOMODO" Brown: 1 : 3 [1/12/2016 11:57:23 AM] Sierra "KOMODO" Brown: Damn smileys [1/12/2016 11:57:33 AM] Jackboot: It's not a hard number because our economy is dumb [1/12/2016 11:57:41 AM] Jackboot: Just look at a modern payscale or cost of living and times it by 3 [1/12/2016 11:57:47 AM] Sierra "KOMODO" Brown: A general idea is good enough for me [1/12/2016 11:57:52 AM] Jackboot: So like I pay $250 a month in rent [1/12/2016 11:57:54 AM] Jackboot: Which is super low [1/12/2016 11:57:55 AM] Jackboot: That would be [1/12/2016 11:58:01 AM] Sierra "KOMODO" Brown: 750 cR [1/12/2016 11:58:02 AM] Jackboot: 750 credits a month [1/12/2016 11:58:17 AM] Sierra "KOMODO" Brown: Wait, I'm confused [1/12/2016 11:58:26 AM] Sierra "KOMODO" Brown: 4,000 credits is roughly equal in purchasing power as 12,000 [1/12/2016 11:58:33 AM] Sierra "KOMODO" Brown: Implies a single credit is worth ~$3 [1/12/2016 11:58:36 AM] Jackboot: I KEEP DOING THIS [1/12/2016 11:58:39 AM] Jackboot: I KEEP REVERSING IT [1/12/2016 11:58:41 AM] Sierra "KOMODO" Brown: But the rent example implies 3 credits is worth ~$1 [1/12/2016 11:59:06 AM] Jackboot: 3 credits is 1 [1/12/2016 11:59:08 AM] Jackboot: Yes, that's right [1/12/2016 11:59:10 AM] Jackboot: I'm sorry [1/12/2016 11:59:22 AM] Sierra "KOMODO" Brown: K, so a 3 cR : 1 USD ratio [1/12/2016 11:59:29 AM] Jackboot: about [1/12/2016 11:59:42 AM] Sierra "KOMODO" Brown: Right-o Quote Link to comment
ChevalierMalFet Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I feel like the curve is a little too flat, but that's just me - I feel like command staff should be making, like, 20 times as much as assistants and apprentices, rather than five times as much as we've seen here. Quote Link to comment
Conservatron Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I feel like the curve is a little too flat, but that's just me - I feel like command staff should be making, like, 20 times as much as assistants and apprentices, rather than five times as much as we've seen here. its based off military pay grades Quote Link to comment
Lady_of_Ravens Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Yeah, but this is the corporate sector. Where are our golden parachutes escape pods? Quote Link to comment
Zundy Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Yeah, but this is the corporate sector. Where are our golden parachutes escape pods? This. I'd prefer to see a more hilariously disproportionate increase in pay as one scales up a la real life. Heads (and too a degree IAAs) should be making bank. I'm excited for this combined with the persistent pay/moneys that's being developed. That's being developed right Jackboot-san?! You promised!! Quote Link to comment
Conservatron Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I want money to be something that people care about down with billionaire 'work to not be bored' characters imo Quote Link to comment
Vanagandr Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Yeah, but this is the corporate sector. Where are our golden parachutes escape pods? Middle Managers don't get golden parachutes. Those aren't a pay thing, either; they're a 'if the company is taken over and you are fired, you get a huge severance bonus' thing to discourage potential takeovers. Quote Link to comment
Lady_of_Ravens Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Yeah, but this is the corporate sector. Where are our golden parachutes escape pods? Middle Managers don't get golden parachutes. Those aren't a pay thing, either; they're a 'if the company is taken over and you are fired, you get a huge severance bonus' thing to discourage potential takeovers. When jokes get taken too seriously. Be careful, kiddos, or this could be you! Quote Link to comment
Nikov Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Crunching numbers, assistants earn 56,000 USD a year. That seems really, really high for someone not trusted to operate anything more sophisticated than a light switch. I think the bottom needs to drop on this pay scale. Officer pay scale seems correct however. Quote Link to comment
Conservatron Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Crunching numbers, assistants earn 56,000 USD a year. That seems really, really high for someone not trusted to operate anything more sophisticated than a light switch. I think the bottom needs to drop on this pay scale. Officer pay scale seems correct however. taking current inflation into consideration 56k really isn't much at all tbh Quote Link to comment
Xelnagahunter Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Ok. Lets take this raw number and break it down. You are offered free housing, don't take it? tough shit. -5100 = 51.3k. Taxes, Beisel seems like a dick that would instate retarted income tax. -40% (20502) = 30,798. Now lets smack the idea of benefits... Mandatory payment for all possible coverage including death benefits to your family... -10,000 (reasonable for cloning, medical, prosthetics and repairs?) = 20,798. That's not so bad a final number for a yearly income. Quote Link to comment
Nikov Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Okay, now apply the same 40% income tax to all the other brackets (assuming this retarded income tax isn't also a progressive income tax) and now the officer's pay scale is fucked too. The Aurora is in a backwater region of space, and would so gravitate toward the bottom of the regional inflation curve. I mean, that's why the station is out here, right? Cheap labor, weak laws and low oversight? Full time minimum wage (US) is 15,000 a year. Why are teenaged assistants making three times that, on top of free housing? Wouldn't Nanotrasen be more likely to go the other direction, with free housing evaluated at some inflated market value and counted as wages to get under minimum wage for assistants? Sierra, as good as this is it just isn't evil enough to live up to Nanotrasen Corporate Values. The unskilled positions (T1-4) need to get ground under our gold-plated jackboots. I have faith in your inner HR demons. Quote Link to comment
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