Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 It has come to my sensual attention that there was a ruling that heads of staff are not allowed to be openly racist to vauraca. This is extremely dumb, for the following circumstances: The space ants have been encountered only in the last year. In our universe it is established that first contact becomes very unfair to the lesser species, especially in the early years. They are giant mindless ants that can bite your arm off in two chomps. They are flooding Biesel in a tsunami of homelessness. And, again, they can fucking kill you and feel no guilt. They've been integrated out of greed by Nanotrasen because most of them don't need to be paid and they preform mindless tasks. Before my hiatus that I am ending now, I had several narratives prepared where Nanotrasen is cutting jobs because Vauraca are cheaper. They are extremely robust. If they have sunglasses on their biggest weakness is negated. In security roles this gives them immense power; they're at the level that I used to want a Unathi with a genuine breacher suit at. Once again, this new alien species is in the internal security department within a year. That's absolutely terrifying. If we accept all of the above as happening, it therefore makes no sense that there is no resentment and anger. They're literally taking jobs without having gone through the sweat and tears of other people. To the common human in Tau Ceti, they're a horde of refugees and violent aliens that go counter to almost all human concepts of the self. This wasn't fully fleshed out by the lore team and that's a failing on our part. It is absolutely ridiculous that we have an official ruling against heads of staff feeling contempt and digust at Vauraca and I refuse to abide by it where it doesn't make sense. These ants don't even have the excuse of being extremely expensive to maintain to protect themselves from being social valids; they're literally the most cheap and expendable assets that we have ever encountered in our setting. I'm not saying valid them without reason. I'm saying make disgust, contempt, and mistrust valid reasons when deliberating if fucking one over was a legitimate call to make during roleplay. People chose to play this race knowing it was meant to be treated as expendable and untrustworthy, don't hold our hands. It's condescending to players making actual engaging and legitimate decisions and I'm disappointed that we're treating this race like a bunch of fragile snowflakes that need their hand held with motherly affections and head smooches. It makes no sense IC and it's ridiculous OOC, going against their entire narrative. Quote
Guest Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 Hear hear! I would be very happy if Vaurcae were removed from Security, Medical and Research until at least 2017 (2459) because it JUST doesn't make sense. These are cheap workers that nobody in Tau Ceti should be happy about. Quote
canon35 Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 Wait, it was banned? First time I heard about this. Quote
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 Hear hear! I would be very happy if Vaurcae were removed from Security, Medical and Research until at least 2017 (2459) because it JUST doesn't make sense. These are cheap workers that nobody in Tau Ceti should be happy about. Honestly if we just job-locked all species except robots and vauraca from shaft miner it'd be the most hilariously frustrating and glorious thing to follow the lore since the Honkmother coronation on Pluto. Quote
SilverTalismen Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 If I may butt in slightly? Vaurca are incredibly hardworking species, While it makes sense for people to wish to bar them from security, It makes no sense in my opinion, Vaurca are a talanted militaristic species, if theres one thing they understand its chain of command and following orders, while NT stations differ greatly from their hives, They can prove themselves capable security officers and soldiers Barring them from medical isn't all that logical in my opinion, Seeing as with Vaurca history they are /Incredibly/ talented in the medical field as they have perfected cybernetics enhancement and have the skills to replace entire organ systems in their young, Make Iron Wombs that constantly knock up their CA's and keep their population stable, Their medical technology while different than Humanitys and the other races, is still advanced in their own regards, they can be talented surgeons and bio-engineers, Amazing paramedics due to never needing a hardsuit and only requireing internals they can go into space in minutes and save endangered crew and personnel Research, While they don't seem like it, They can prove to be talented Researchers, whether or not they merely found the technology for cybernetic enhancements that they have now, they still genetically engineered their species into what it is today, more than likely making them incredibly talented Geneticists and scientists due to the time and effort this would have taken them. Their having cheapworkers is exactly why the entirety of the species is being hired in such a quick manner, millions of Vaurca drones are suddenly flowing in, not needing to get paid they work long backbreaking hours without complaint and have no doubt increased productivity ten fold in places they have been hired, They also increase security, Drones work like humanitys Ant's do, Warriors fall and they can swarm the hostiles with sheer numbers, not ceasing until the hostile, or they themselves are taken out (I'm not encouraging bound to attack antags instantly with this statement) But they have no doubt in a years time efficently proved themselves somewhat capable to hold the jobs they do, even if they are being closely watched by their employers, They deserve a chance, as does any new species Quote
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 incoherent rambling Your assessment is fair. It brings us to the question: Because they deserve these things, will they get them? This sense of optimism, while I hold it fanatically IRL because im a huge humanitarian, makes little sense for our setting. A person can be smart and look at the Vauraca as full of potential, but people are fearful and paranoid. People organized to make a profit or policy (corporations and governments) tend to make extremely irrational decisions. In this case, there's a snowball of wewlad for the vauraca. On one hand they're being ruthlessly exploited and used by Nanotrasen, barely tolerated by the government housing them, and being viewed as job-stealing dangerous monsters by the people who couldn't get a job because a vauraca is cheaper. Quote
SilverTalismen Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) incoherent rambling Your assessment is fair. It brings us to the question: Because they deserve these things, will they get them? This sense of optimism, while I hold it fanatically IRL because im a huge humanitarian, makes little sense for our setting. A person can be smart and look at the Vauraca as full of potential, but people are fearful and paranoid. People organized to make a profit or policy (corporations and governments) tend to make extremely irrational decisions. In this case, there's a snowball of wewlad for the vauraca. On one hand they're being ruthlessly exploited and used by Nanotrasen, barely tolerated by the government housing them, and being viewed as job-stealing dangerous monsters by the people who couldn't get a job because a vauraca is cheaper. I would say their working the jobs they currently do, Is that in someway they have proven themsevles capapble with nanotransen, or they bribed the fuck out of nanotransen to get into the jobs they currently hold, whos to say except the leaders of the hives? Edited January 26, 2016 by Guest Quote
Gollee Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 I made the call that LOYALTY IMPLANTED heads can't be calling Vaurca "bugs" or other stuff on general comms, or otherwise making asses of themselves, up to and including telling the AI to shut up telling them off. This is because NT is looking for friendly relations with the Vaurca, and would obviously have passed down memos to that effect. They can be racist in private/ in person; but not over the RECORDED AND DOCUMENTED radio and PDA servers. Quote
Rechkalov Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 Hear hear! I would be very happy if Vaurcae were removed from Security, Medical and Research until at least 2017 (2459) because it JUST doesn't make sense. These are cheap workers that nobody in Tau Ceti should be happy about. Wouldn't it make more sense to jump a couple of years ahead in gametime, rather than actually wait several years? Quote
Jboy2000000 Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 While not 100% on topic, I have to ask, if this thread completely and utterly fucking broken for anyone else? I mean, I want to say something on topic, so Ill edit this once I can actually read it. Quote
Zundy Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 While not 100% on topic, I have to ask, if this thread completely and utterly fucking broken for anyone else? I mean, I want to say something on topic, so Ill edit this once I can actually read it. Yeah seems to fuck up the format after silvers second post for me Quote
Killerhurtz Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 Nope, broken for me too. Took a screenshot, will ping Skull. Quote
Gollee Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 While not 100% on topic, I have to ask, if this thread completely and utterly fucking broken for anyone else? I mean, I want to say something on topic, so Ill edit this once I can actually read it. Yup, buggy as shit. Quote
Gollee Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 So, your implanted staff can be racist, but don't go calling to glass Adhomai on the damned radio, or calling Vaurca creepy-crawlies and you need to build a wall. These are things that NT would have told you not to do, for obvious reasons. You can still be racist in face-to-face confrontations, or in private, such as two heads chatting; but you are also meant to be the public face of NT; if Donald Tusk suddenly started yelling abuse about asylum seekers or black people, he would not hold his position for long. Right, so this was the call that was made, by me. If you have issues with it, alert me. If people are using it as an excuse to try and force a "No racism whatsoever" stance, point them to this, so they can read the line beneath this. They can still be racist, it just can't be in a way that can be recorded and verified. They can feel free to call a Vaurca a locust, or a Taj a fleabag; provided it isn't done in such a way that it would be recorded; like radio, or PDA, because they would be fired. IN ADDITION, it doesn't affect non-implanted staff at all, not from an OOC perspective, if a non-implanted head gets referred to DOs for racism, and records are there, they are just as screwed. Quote
Nikov Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 Manfred told a Vauraca sec officer who requested a high-cap emergency oxygen bottle that they were "antisocial" and "greedy" to request more oxygen than their colleges. When they protested that they were vacuum-proof, I merely insisted they should give up their oxygen to their more vulnerable co-workers and learn some manners. Let the hatred flow... Quote
ChevalierMalFet Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 Manfred told a Vauraca sec officer who requested a high-cap emergency oxygen bottle that they were "antisocial" and "greedy" to request more oxygen than their colleges. When they protested that they were vacuum-proof, I merely insisted they should give up their oxygen to their more vulnerable co-workers and learn some manners. Let the hatred flow... That was me. I found it quite funny. I'm sure I will ask you again next time I see you. Quote
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 So, your implanted staff can be racist, but don't go calling to glass Adhomai on the damned radio, or calling Vaurca creepy-crawlies and you need to build a wall. These are things that NT would have told you not to do, for obvious reasons. You can still be racist in face-to-face confrontations, or in private, such as two heads chatting; but you are also meant to be the public face of NT; if Donald Tusk suddenly started yelling abuse about asylum seekers or black people, he would not hold his position for long. Right, so this was the call that was made, by me. If you have issues with it, alert me. If people are using it as an excuse to try and force a "No racism whatsoever" stance, point them to this, so they can read the line beneath this. They can still be racist, it just can't be in a way that can be recorded and verified. They can feel free to call a Vaurca a locust, or a Taj a fleabag; provided it isn't done in such a way that it would be recorded; like radio, or PDA, because they would be fired. IN ADDITION, it doesn't affect non-implanted staff at all, not from an OOC perspective, if a non-implanted head gets referred to DOs for racism, and records are there, they are just as screwed. That begs the question: Why should people be punished so harshly for contempt of the bugs? Quote
the_furry Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 cats should be racist cause the bugs will work for less so 'they took our jobs!' Quote
Guest Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 It's bad PR for the company and space liberals who run the media wouldn't give NT an inch. Quote
hivefleetchicken Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 It's bad PR for the company and space liberals who run the media wouldn't give NT an inch. NT runs the media. Quote
SilverTalismen Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 Right now, Vaurca are cheap labor that NT used their connections to push through into working in the usual jobs, this should earn racism and hatred from other co-workers until Vaurca prove themselves personally in their workplaces as being competent Quote
Jboy2000000 Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 Im all for anti-buggism in the work place. My Unathi RD has voiced his displeasure about the Vaurca before, even to a Vaurca once. He straight up told them he was made that Vaurca were given the privileges they didn't earn. The Vaurca was actually a pretty good sport about it. So, yes, Im pro-buggist, buuuuuut, I think it should be limited to sec and command, where the Vaurca are banned from. Theres some interesting RP that could be garnered from discrimination in their undeserved jobs. Quote
Guest Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 -snip- That begs the question: Why should people be punished so harshly for contempt of the bugs? Although no one's really been punished so far, but acts of racisim in the workplace have always been illegal. The statement only refers to some Heads of Staff, whose loyalty prevents them from being dicks I think that much is apparent. Doesn't protecting the bugs make people hate them even more, though? Isn't that what you want Jackboot? Quote
Chaznoodles Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 Horrible ruling. Forces something without any IC action leading up to it, thereby quashing rp. Remove. Quote
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