KhalidtheGrey Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 BYOND Key: KhalidtheGrey Total Ban Length: 24 Hours Banning staff member's Key: Wittly Reason of Ban: IC in OOC and disrespecting a mod (however I believe he was being disrespectful as well) Reason for Appeal: It was the mop-up phase, nothing said in OOC was going to change the outcome at that point. Second time I've made this post, however the last one was much larger because I took the time to explain the entire situation. I'd like to know why it 'mysteriously vanished' If it happens again, I'll have Wittly's head for it.
Witt Posted November 13, 2014 Posted November 13, 2014 Firstly, I had nothing to do with your last post being deleted, but given your attitude, I do not support you having a ban reduction.
Frances Posted November 13, 2014 Posted November 13, 2014 Pretty much going to agree with Witt here. I'd like to have some more information about the ban (what was said in OOC, were warnings issued?), but you starting off the appeal saying you'll "have the mod's head" if they deleted your post (you post likely didn't send correctly, Witt doesn't have special forum permissions) makes you come off as confrontational, and even if it was meant as a joke, it is decidedly not the attitude to take if you're going to accuse a mod of being disrespectful.
Skull132 Posted November 13, 2014 Posted November 13, 2014 Second time I've made this post, however the last one was much larger because I took the time to explain the entire situation. I'd like to know why it 'mysteriously vanished' If it happens again, I'll have Wittly's head for it. A check of the forum moderation logs shows that no actions were taken by any forum staff with regards to your topic. Something that may have happened is that you may have had a session timeout and it would have forced you to login alongside that. That would have lost you your post. Unless you actually saw the thread here, in these subforums and everything. At which point, I am slightly puzzled.
KhalidtheGrey Posted November 13, 2014 Author Posted November 13, 2014 Thanks for checking Skull, I imagine it was a glitch or something along the lines of a time out... Regardless, I wasn't going to write ti all out /again/ till I was sure it was going to stick. By the way, exactly how fine would you be if you thought someone deleted your ban appeal before it could be considered? Especially if you spent half an hour writing it. Not to mention I made an account JUST so I could do this. Anyway, two main bits were mentioned in OOC that I was ragged on for, remarking that my character was above 50% and yes the only difference between him and a corpse was he had a pulse (which i thought was funny game 'logic'. The other bit was I mentioned plague (so did about half the other people talking in ooc) while the ERT could not have known about it despite it being about 5 seconds worth of logical deduction or a single medical scan. Anyway, Wittly and a couple others ragged on me and I (being who i am) would not simply keel over. I always use a rule of thumb for speaking about the rp in ooc, namely, 'Is it relevant? Would it change the game if everyone alive knew this information?' I had concluded no on all of the things I had mentioned and thus said them. Anyway, there was a minor debate that consisted of 'Follow the rules because they're the rules' vs. 'This rule is invalid currently'. As a simile i would compare it to jay walking when there is no one else in sight for a long distance. Yes, jay walking is bad and can get you killed as well as others, but it cant do that if there is nothing to hit you. Anyway, I was told that my non-compliance would be put on my record (the reason i even care about this, the ban was going to be up before this was over and i knew that from the start) and continued to press the lack of a legitimate reason to even bitch at me, the (Wittly) ignored me after a certain point and after a little while longer I poked at him calling him (basically) a coward. To which he responded by telling me im being banned for being disrespectful and then -banned for 24 hours-. I may have missed or forgotten some bits but that's the core of it
KhalidtheGrey Posted November 13, 2014 Author Posted November 13, 2014 Side note, having Wittly's head was contingent on him even screwing with it in the first place.
Witt Posted November 13, 2014 Posted November 13, 2014 Ok, here's is how it happened; you and a few other began raging when RNJesus decided a really fun virus was needed; you all were told to cut the IC in OOC, as the round was on going and no emergency shuttle was even in route; you choose to start ranting about it not being required, we warned you to more times; I even PMed giving you the exact reason why it was IC in OOC along with the warning of cut the IC in OOC or you would be muted; you sent back some random PM that I viewed as not required to respond to; you PMed again calling me a spineless coward; your attitude this entire time was highly inappropriate and the other moderators and myself decided that you needed a 24hr ban to cool off.
TishinaStalker Posted November 13, 2014 Posted November 13, 2014 My input on this probably doesn't matter by now, but: I posted the exact rule about IC in OOC when you and about three other people were raging in OOC with IC information. -No IC in OOC - Avoid discussing events of the current round in OOC. Exceptions might apply for minor, funny events, but use common sense. Generally, don't. Avoid discussing events of the current round in OOC. The approximately three other people stopped after I posted this rule and Wittly followed up with a second order to stop. You, on the other hand, found it right to continue with the rant even after a couple of warnings. I was one of the staff members that was backing up Wittly on applying this 24 hour ban, seeing as you refused to calm down, and proved to be disrespectful with the "coward" comment to someone that was being polite and respectful to you. All simply because he didn't respond fast enough due to being in the middle of discussing a course of action over msay.
KhalidtheGrey Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 i wasn't ranting, and if you cant recognize when something is over, i have over estimated you "...began raging when RNJesus decided a really fun virus was needed..." now im not very happy,i was not aware that someoen intentionally fucked the cultists, even if i wasnt a cultist i would /still/ demand that fuck head be banned fot at least a month, go fuck yourselves for allowing him to do it, go fuck yourselves for not banning him, fuck your server, im not going back, forget the appeal and go fuck yourself for bitching at the victims of this grief, i accepted it had happened and since the round was over, wanted to talk about it before we were engrossed in another round, but now that i find out someone did it intentionally while fully aware there were not geneticists or virologists, /now/ i actually am mad at everyone involved with this who was aware of the fact RNJesus infected the cult 'because it was fun' can go take a long walk over a cliff, no amount of IC in OOC could possibly affect the round as much as a PLAGUE that leaves you HELPLESS
Frances Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Before anybody else jumps at your throat, I would like to take this moment to clarify that RNJesus is not an actual player, but rather an expression that refers to Random Number J/Generation, or chance.
mirkoloio Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Well, I was Part of that round, cultist too and I must admit that virus sucked, really. And I was a little bit mad because I wanted to make the ERT swallow incendiary bullets. But, it's just a game and I see no real need to go nuts and swear at and insult admins about RNJesus decisions.
Frances Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 Alright, this was all pretty amusing, but time to move on. Denied.
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