[Accepted] Warden Unban

[coolbc2000]

BYOND Key: Coolbc2000

Total Ban Length:Permanent I am told

Banning staff member's Key: Cake.

Reason of Ban: (MANUAL BAN) Continuously logging out as the warden, in the warden's office, without going to cryo. Has been warned and banned about this in the past. You have had your chances. You may appeal on the forums if you wish to contest this ban.

Reason for Appeal: Riiiight so, it was another round where my Internet cut out, it's quite rare that it happens, but when it does, it's for a good few hours.

Now, I understand the wishing to ban be from it for awhile, but permanent?. I never really saw that one coming and it took me like a right hook.

Riiiight, where to even start? Right, I have never been banned from Warden specifically if I am not mistaken, the last time I got any kind of notion to stop going S.S.D. or anything like it, was back in Febuary

Serv told me that you have to think long and hard if the last note was from 6 months ago.... Ofcourse, you guys have your hidden notes which we can't see, so not talking to me about them is a little...Meh?

Really all I am asking is here to put down to a month or something, it's shitty that I got banned from the best Job on this 'ere Station because my internet provider decided to fuck me.

Edited September 28, 2016 by Guest

[Chaznoodles]

I don't understand why his internet connection resulted in a ban here. Syion's one of the best Wardens I see on a regular basis. We don't ban antags for logging out and turning the round into extended, we don't ban players who ghost out of spite when someone soulshards them or otherwise puts them in that position, so why are we banning someone without the intent to leave?

[CakeIsOssim]

 

What I'm mainly looking at is this one. Given, there are no notes similar to this up to today. This note, however, is only three months old and was a week long. These next notes are, indeed, from February, but I took them into consideration a degree, as well.

 

 

What this tells me is that logging out as the warden is a consistent problem, and one that has taken place over the months. It is also extremely difficult, if not impossible, to tell when someone loses connection and when they have logged out. Even if we set the notes from February aside, we still have a week ban from warden not too long ago.

I do have a small amount of doubt. That if you actually lost connection, this ban would be very unfair to you. The issue is this being a problem that has occurred in the not-so-long past. I'm going to think over it for a day or so, and discuss it with the rest of the modmins.

[Garnascus]

we don't ban players who ghost out of spite when someone soulshards them or otherwise puts them in that position

 

Actually we do this is absolutely something i will and have punished players for when i have seen it happen.

[Serveris]

we don't ban players who ghost out of spite when someone soulshards them or otherwise puts them in that position

 

..We do. We ban them hard. No idea why you would think this kind of shitty sportsmanship would go unpunished, but be assured, you're mistaken. Aurora staff crack down on this hard.

[sonicgotnuked]

I would like to put my own opinion, sometimes that, AHELP before you log out is nice when it comes to antags. Especially of it is a malf AI, changing, vampire, wizard, merc with nuke code, etc. But sometimes we have real life and we may not have time to go to cryo. I don't see why you have to justify your SSD, sometimes power goes out, real life emergencys, Internet dies. If it happens frequently to you, why are you unable to basically play your roles. Then never play them again because your Internet died. I sometimes have to go to a cryo and do not have the minute to run over there. I have to do it a few times here and there. Life is life, if the person dropped, ask the AI to open the door or get the HoS to do it, strip, drag to cryo

Also the rounds are 2-4 hours long, and life is life. Ss13 does not support us.

[CakeIsOssim]

If you doubt you'll be able to make it through a round, you need to make it your responsibility to not play roles that make it more difficult for other people to take care of you, or other things, while you are gone. This means no single-slot roles, no command staff, and no idling in places no one can get you. Yes, shit happens. When shit happens on a regular basis, it becomes your responsibility to ensure that that shit is not made worse.

[coolbc2000]

The thing is, the last time my internet cut, is with that note that skull put on me, three months ago. Ofcourse I had to go from here to there, but I always cryo, I always cryo when I can.

[coolbc2000]

Bump Bump?

[CakeIsOssim]

Because this has gone several days without an update, let this serve as one. I'm going to speak with Skull directly about this, and probably Hunnewle, too, as they were the two staff members I know have probably spoken to you about this. I will edit this post with more gubbins when I'm finished. It will likely be tomorrow.

Skull said that you were spoken to about logging out as warden even before the tempban was placed. This is true as the notes I posted a while above show. Hunnewle unfortunately does not remember the details of speaking to you but does remember speaking to you. I will give credit where credit is due, and say that Skull has noted that you did improve by going to cryo before logging out. The one issue is that both I and Serveris have noted, not officially however, that we see you logged out in the warden's office quite often.

[coolbc2000]

Yes well, did speak with my internet providers. Internet can cut between 15:30-17:30. And only that time. Suppose just not play Warden inbetween then?

[CakeIsOssim]

Yes well, did speak with my internet providers. Internet can cut between 15:30-17:30. And only that time. Suppose just not play Warden inbetween then?

 

What timezone?

[coolbc2000]

What timezone?

 

GMT + 1

[CakeIsOssim]

I am willing to give you this chance. It will be your responsibility to not play important roles during times that you are aware that your ISP may disconnect you. A note will be placed on your ckey stating that if you are found logged out during the time you stated (15:30-17:30 GMT+1), another permanent ban must be placed (and it will likely be unappealable). You'll have several chances, or strikes, or what have you if you are found logged out as warden any time outside of the time you have given. By the time you finish reading this, your ban will be lifted. Enjoy, and I implore you not to blunder.