[2 Dismissal: Archived]CSI's/forensic technician's access

[MO_oNyMan]

CSI has access to morgue, which is perfectly reasonable, seeing how they are required to deal with bodies frequently. The issue here is that the morgue area (which CSI has access to) is encircled with a general medbay area (which CSI has no access to). So it has become fuel for an absurd amount of arguments with medbay staff. Yes, i get it that CSI should not remove bodies from the morgue without medbay's permission, yes, i get that this promotes interaction between department. BUT! I don't appreciate arguing with medbay staff for 40 minutes about whether CSI needs a warrant to visit morgue or whether CSI should be arrested on charges of trespassing for going to the morgue through an area CSI has no access to.

So i would like to request adding general medbay access to CSI. If that's irreasonable, i'd like some clarification on how this is supposed to work with the current state of things (i.e. can medbay nerds deny access to the morgue? Can they do it without stating a valid reason? If they don't, what regulation covers this happening? And so on)

[Sebbe]

There is a "backdoor" present in the med bay I feel is perfectly resonable for them to have access too.

+1 I don't see why not

[MO_oNyMan]

That backdoor in maint was a blessing. However there's been some minor changes in medbay, and that door is now autopsy lab's door (and therefore is access restricted). So no backdoor anymore. Also, i apologise, i think this suggestion was a part of another post some time ago, although the door was existent at that time. Here's a link https://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9284

[N8-Toe]

I think CSI should not gain more access, and possibly loose morgue access. I think autopsy and such should be in the realm of the medical department. should they retain morgue access Medical should still maintain primary responsibility over bodies and the CSI should have to work with medical on autopsy.

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

The problem here is medical dragging their feet and being intentionally difficult. I think we would benefit by punishing this rather than giving the CSI access. There are good reasons for not letting CSI have access - the cooperation with medical is important.

[Arrow768]

Corpses are the responsibility of the medbay.

Medical personnel is expected to work with the CSI when performing a autopsy.

As mentioned by Jackboot. If medical is being difficult, then they need to be punished.

But that is not a reason to grant the CSI access to the morgue.

The same reason "because they need to do something in the area" can be applied to give almost any job access to most of the station.

Therefore voting for dismissal.

[MO_oNyMan]

Well problem here is not so much the lack of access itself, but the frequent inability to carry out one's duties as a CSI. There's no stable procedure of how the interaction between medbay and sec should be handled, therefore medics tend to think they do not owe anything to anyone apart from providing medical treatment. Alternative suggestions of how to solve this situation are welcomed. For example, i could settle with inplementing a "coroner" to medbay, whos duties (actually wriiten down in his guide or something) would be specifically managing morgues and interacting with security investigators (as opposed to treating crew)

[LordFowl]

If medbay is outright refusing to co-operate, they are wrong. If a body is connected to a crime, and security has a warrant to investigate that crime, or that body is obviously connected to a murder, medical technicians that refuse to co-operate are obstructing the investigation and should be dealt with appropriately, without pussy-footing.

[Alberyk]

I am sure that the brig already has morgue trays and even a surgery table, if the body is related to a crime both security and medical should work together to handle it.

Voting for dismissal as well.