Rebalance Dexalin and Oxygen Deprivation

[Fortport]

Nothing should substitute for breathing air, ever. In real life, having no oxygen in your brain means brain damage. Brain damage is a big deal.

Right now you can still get it in the game, but it's negligible. If you are using meds to survive oxygen deprivation, you can only get so far with that. If your lungs are busted and you're taking dexalin to stay conscious, but literally cannot breathe, you should be dying. Not running around for over a half hour, chatting people up while sometimes hacking up blood and coughing nonstop. Dexalin is not oxygen in your brain.

[LanceLynxx]

well ACKTCHUALLY you don't need to "breathe" air. What's important is getting oxygen into your blood. There are other means that don't include air. In my head canon, dexalin is perfluorocarbon. Technically you could inject your lungs with it and still breathe.

in 2460, I think that's not a stretch, since we already have it NOW.

More info on that, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_breathing

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

I have literally never see someone shrug off a popped lung. It is already crippling. Dexalin is literally the only thing that can keep you clinging to life. Artificial punishment for no real reason other than an arbitrary goalpost of realism. -1

[kyres1]

Suffocation damage is the most prominent and common ailment in the entire game. Treating popped lungs is already excruciatingly tedious and happens every single shift, even on extended, repeatedly. Making treating suffocation in any way, shape or form more difficult is absolutely not a good way to make medical better in my opinion.

[Fortport]

I have literally never see someone shrug off a popped lung. It is already crippling. Dexalin is literally the only thing that can keep you clinging to life. Artificial punishment for no real reason other than an arbitrary goalpost of realism. -1

 

I have literally seen/been the person that has ruptured a lung, continuously popped dexalin, and walked around just fine despite the fact I was never actually inhaling. You think it's arbitrary, to get brain damage from not breathing at all for twenty minutes, taking the same meds to not go down? The only thing that got to me over time was losing so much blood i collapsed, and couldn't take dexalin anymore. That took forever.

My suggestion isn't to make dexalin do nothing, but less. I am trying to think of a situation where someone could just take a magic pill over and over to just not breathe for an extended period of time.

 

well ACKTCHUALLY you don't need to "breathe" air. What's important is getting oxygen into your blood. There are other means that don't include air. In my head canon, dexalin is perfluorocarbon. Technically you could inject your lungs with it and still breathe.

in 2460, I think that's not a stretch, since we already have it NOW.

More info on that, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_breathing

 

That is highly experimental, as far as I know. It has to actually be in your lungs, and wouldn't help much in a pill-form. But this is the future, and I'm sure that's some padding. But that doesn't explain how the pill just works. Don't have to explain it, though.

 

Suffocation damage is the most prominent and common ailment in the entire game. Treating popped lungs is already excruciatingly tedious and happens every single shift, even on extended, repeatedly. Making treating suffocation in any way, shape or form more difficult is absolutely not a good way to make medical better in my opinion.

 

Oh yeah? What I'm trying to say, is that you could literally just take dexalin and not even faint. Just walking around, somehow speaking without air in your lungs. If you're not going to nerf dexalin, could it at least be made so that speaking without air in your lungs is impossible? If your oxygen meter is flashing red, just make it so you can't talk?

[LanceLynxx]

That is highly experimental, as far as I know. It has to actually be in your lungs, and wouldn't help much in a pill-form. But this is the future, and I'm sure that's some padding. But that doesn't explain how the pill just works. Don't have to explain it, though.

 

it's not experimental, it works and has been used in treatment since 1990s.

It can also be used as a direct substitute for blood, not only in the lungs.

granted, pill form shouldn't work. Injected should, though. you cana ssume you inject it in the blood or lungs, both should work

[Fortport]

That is highly experimental, as far as I know. It has to actually be in your lungs, and wouldn't help much in a pill-form. But this is the future, and I'm sure that's some padding. But that doesn't explain how the pill just works. Don't have to explain it, though.

 

it's not experimental, it works and has been used in treatment since 1990s.

It can also be used as a direct substitute for blood, not only in the lungs.

granted, pill form shouldn't work. Injected should, though. you cana ssume you inject it in the blood or lungs, both should work

 

Limiting it to syringes wouldn't really matter too much. I'm sure there was a breakthrough in three hundred years? At the least, it would make giving yourself another dose more of a hassle.

[TishinaStalker]

Sounds like there's not really an issue then, nor a need to make changes. If you want to walk around with a popped lung while knocking back dexalin pill after dexalin pill, then be my guest. At the same time, don't be surprised if you get bwoinked for doing so due to ignoring character needs and pain. There's nothing IC'ly telling your character to "shrug off" a popped lung. The only thing doing that is you OOC'ly through the use of established mechanics.

[BurgerBB]

A simple fix is work in hallos damage with pain messages. Like despite having pain messages for popped lungs, you're not actually mechanically in pain, you just get text notifications every few seconds.

[Fortport]

I'm going to reiterate that talking with busted lungs should be mechanically difficult somehow. Hell, I saw someone LOSE their lungs, and they could still speak.

[Scheveningen]

Welp, that should've been the subject of your thread then. RIP.