[Resolved] People v. Mystery Of Darkness

BYOND Key: IncognitoJesus

Game ID: bPD-aqXe

Player Byond Key: Mystery_Of_Darkness

Staff involved: YouJustGotOwened, myself.

Reason for complaint: Shit security play, whining in LOOC and in ahelps.

After a harmless prank in the bar that consisted of well, people laying down and a miscommunication

, the player came in as Wood Burns, fired his gun at a wall before aiming his gun at the surgeon near the top of that screenshot. He then began firing blindly into the crowd before he was disarmed and stripped. He was then removed from the bar. Mind you, Manfred Hayden (the CE at the time) told him to relax and stand down and that this isn't how arrests are done. While nearly naked, he assaulted the person who stripped him and then anyone who tried disarming him or flashing him, repeatedly getting up and attempting to fight them again whenever they were knocked down and subsequently robusted. They then decided to start punching everyone at the scene before being dragged off. At one point, he ahelped and said that people were stripping him and made remarks in LOOC about said thing. Eventually, he was dragged off and I'm not sure what went on after the fact, but I did see in LOOC that he tried calling the incident an act of grief. He ahelped regarding his gear being taken, and so I reminded him that the situation was already ahelped by him and that it was an IC issue. He then attempted to say that it was not proper escalation of force, and that he would be taking it to CCIA in the form of an IR. I don't believe that this should be handled in an IR because he has at least one recorded incident of raging when confronted ICly. My recommended action here would be at least a jobban from security since that was like, primo shitcurity. I also feel as though it's necessary to note that this is someone who's applying for a Unathi whitelist at the moment.

Did you attempt to adminhelp the issue at the time? If so, what was the known action taken by administration/moderation? No, it was deemed an IC issue by YJGO before the whole fight, and I'm making this complaint since I feel as though the fight was a supreme display of shitty play.

Approximate Date/Time: ~11 PM EST 25 JUL 2017

I was also thinking about making a complaint. The character Wood Burns made a butt ton of trouble when I played. At one point, I had found a Carp on Surface Level by the pool. I was not going to engage this carp until I had a laser rifle, so I locked it down. Later Wood Burns shows up claiming he had a weapon to kill it, and he didn't. He decided to allow the Carp to breach the glass right in front of us, because he knew "how to deal with Carp." He took out his stunbaton and killed it, while breaching the station. He was injured afterwards, and said "It didn't really hurt." But in reality, being bitten by a giant space fish with sharp teeth. WOULD hurt, and that he did not RP the pain. I was upset after this and ahelped, then being told that it was an IC Issue.

Personally a professional Security Officer would not have done this, and instead would have locked the area down, get a laser rifle, and kill it. All done without breaching the station.

I was also thinking about making a complaint. The character Wood Burns made a butt ton of trouble when I played. At one point, I had found a Carp on Surface Level by the pool. I was not going to engage this carp until I had a laser rifle, so I locked it down. Later Wood Burns shows up claiming he had a weapon to kill it, and he didn't. He decided to allow the Carp to breach the glass right in front of us, because he knew "how to deal with Carp." He took out his stunbaton and killed it, while breaching the station. He was injured afterwards, and said "It didn't really hurt." But in reality, being bitten by a giant space fish with sharp teeth. WOULD hurt, and that he did not RP the pain. I was upset after this and ahelped, then being told that it was an IC Issue.

Personally a professional Security Officer would not have done this, and instead would have locked the area down, get a laser rifle, and kill it. All done without breaching the station.

I will note he was an antag at the time of this incident. A changeling, to be specific.

I was the cat in that photo. He threatened to put a live grenade down Byrds throat. And lastly I think he started tear gassing people.

DELETE THIS POST, I POSTED IT TWICE.

Wood Burns only tear gassed Monique as she stole most of his gear, and was shot with his own .45 and had his head bashed in with his stunbaton after trying to get the gear back and he is unable to work as a security officer anymore because of a workspace accident involving a airlock and heavy cloning treatment, so you won't have to see him again, he was a ling in the Carp round and I can't see how this is shitcurity but I will stop just to change your opinions about me being "shitcurity", I'm now playing as security borg, it is obviously unable to deny orders and can't be classed as "shitcurity", thanks for your time, the borg is meant to feel like a friendly being and attempts to help people and do his job properly, so you won't have to worry about my previous "shitcurity" actions happening again.

Wood Burns only tear gassed Monique as she stole most of his gear, and was shot with his own .45 and had his head bashed in with his stunbaton after trying to get the gear back and he is unable to work as a security officer anymore because of a workspace accident involving a airlock and heavy cloning treatment, so you won't have to see him again, he was a ling in the Carp round and I can't see how this is shitcurity but I will stop just to change your opinions about me being "shitcurity", I'm now playing as security borg, it is obviously unable to deny orders and can't be classed as "shitcurity", thanks for your time, the borg is meant to feel like a friendly being and attempts to help people and do his job properly, so you won't have to worry about my previous "shitcurity" actions happening again.

I kind of have to call you on this, but I'd like another admin to confirm, but IIRC you threw the grenades before you were harmed. Not to mention that this all happened AFTER you tried fighting like six coworkers.

I threw the grenades because I knew she would probably shoot me with something, the grenades were actually my mistake, though, and I didn't "try fighting six coworkers", I tried to make Monique fall through attacking her to get my gear back but those who helped in the fake mass suicide prank intefered, thanks for your opinion, I will be sure to improve.

This screenshot is from the whitelist comments on MoD's unathi white list application from UM. (He does not want to be involved but I got permission to screen shot it)

I would like to remind you that grenade was a 120/120 pott/water and would of gibbed someone if they where too close to it.

Can attest for the above, having spoken to the individual for it. While they were apologetic about it, there's not much to say when this kind of behavior acting as an agent of security department seems to be making a point to act as recklessly as it is.

I recently received a PM on Discord from the subject of this complaint requesting a Security jobban as a result of this complaint.

I kind of have to call you on this, but I'd like another admin to confirm, but IIRC you threw the grenades before you were harmed. Not to mention that this all happened AFTER you tried fighting like six coworkers.

The grenade was primed before Wood Burns retained any incoming attack logs, but after he initially discharged his firearm on civilians.

With that said, a jobban from Security roles has been applied, and will remain in place until appealed.