EvilBrage

But it's already hilarious that they walk around at walk speed and can't remove it themselves. Adding damage is almost insult to injury - though considering the circumstance, it doesn't seem too far out of the question.

We need either memes or borers, that's for sure. I'm also not sure how playable the memetic entity is at present, but from what I've read the idea is very fascinating - when you don't count the whole "sleep toxin insta-death" idea. If we could replace that with something a bit more substantial, that would be nice - perhaps a more "involved" process to kill the meme, but sleep toxin prevents it from jumping from person to person?

When emagged, drains more power and creates an oppressive field that does constant pressure damage. Oh yes, I like this alright.

I'm not sure the "pet aliens" idea sits very well with me - that, and I'm very much against a feared mind-controlling slug being reduced to a friendly dopamine administrator. Moreover, why? It seems like a step down from the old pAI (you know, before they could walk around and be annoying little shits) in terms of how much interaction you have with your environment and I can't honestly say this would contribute to the serious atmosphere we tend to cultivate on the server. "I just let a slug crawl in my ear" actually seems borderline maniacal.

Loyalty implants really only amount to a "this person is exempt from antag selection/conversion" device ported over that we've tried to justify on a heavy-RP server for some inexplicable reason, and if I may be so bold - it's not working. Get it? "If I may be so bold?" Ahahaha. Haha. Aha... ha ha. Ha. Maybe it's finally time to walk away from the deus ex machina and instead assume that our captains, heads of security, and IA agents are loyal because they're afraid to lose years of hard work and dedication required for their positions, rather than a mind control probe, but that's for another thread.

I disagree; the issue is that TechnoKat has very little regard for the enjoyment of other players and will go ahead and just do whatever - that is the common theme in all of these complaints, and that is also a very poisonous mindset to have in what is essentially a book written by fifty different authors at a time. Why did they wipe a pAI and upload a ridiculous law? Because they wanted to, pAI player be damned. Why do they go into a hissy fit whenever they're arrested? Because they want to, security protocol and justification be damned. Why did they slam Ana's head into a wall repeatedly? Because they wanted to, Sue's enjoyment be damned. Honestly, I also have a problem with Sue's aggression towards antagonists, but that actually has to take place before you can begin to claim that was the trigger. If being arrested was the trigger, why wait for Centurion's backup to show up? If Ana's aggression was the trigger, why did Lauren go off before even a line of text was exchanged? What I'm starting to sense is that Techno is a player who simply does what they desire in the immediate moment without any thought for consequence or other players, and as stated above, I don't believe that's a mindset we want to endorse, regardless of whether or not that player is the round's antagonist.

I'm afraid I have to agree with Susan on this one; I'd just like to point out that there are three active complaints with TechnoKat taking a prominent role for being arbitrarily rude (or, in the words of Rule #1, "a dick") to other players - and none of them seem to spark a desire on their part to improve.

Or, you know, I was in paincrit and couldn't move or talk from the runespam. But you've got your per-conceived notions already, and I think we have enough pages to prove just how angry you are about all of this - about things that you think could have happened. Not even what happened - what could have happened.

I misclicked while in a vacuum, and then Jaylor apparently decides it's a good idea to remove his hardsuit and oxygen tank, resulting in an instant popped lung. Were it not for the handy supply of inaprovaline and dexalin, it would've spelled death in a matter of seconds. Can we not?

You don't need to apologize to me or have any sort of blessings; the point of this forum is to help each other improve and understand that not everyone may see things the way you or I do. The staff isn't lax on their whitelist screening to be sure, and I trust that they'll do what they think best. However, in my opinion, genuine willingness to improve is huge and I'd personally never run out of second chances for such individuals.

Okay, so we really should be moving towards a resolution, but you're not making any sense, and/or you're not reading the observations of impartial, ghosted players who watched during that round, so I'll try to sum things up here: What is the point of this complaint? First you claimed you were stuck there for the rest of the round. Logs and observers can both confirm this is not true. You then claimed that there was no RP prior to the arrests that took place. Again, logs and observers both have proven this to be false. You claimed that the charges were entirely false and that it was just a security gank. Impartial observers disagree. You also claim my intent was to leave you in the permabrig with no RP. I attempted to notify you via LOOC that this was not the case. But you didn't notice that. Why? And that's the crux of this whole issue. Where I tried to foster some form of RP, both before and after things got out of hand, you only screamed, shouted, and kicked. You, TechnoKat, and PoZe disrespected the players behind the characters in security and even Josh when he came over to mediate the brewing conflict. You responded in a disgustingly rude manner to something that could have very well been calmly sorted out right there on the spot, but your OOC mentality got in the way - just like it is now. You orchestrated the situation and what ensued by refusing to take a step back, calm down, and listen to the other side (or the moderator himself when he tried to step in.) In essence, you're being a poor sport despite the fact that you did escape not five minutes later; this complaint isn't about correcting behavior, this is about misrepresenting the facts in order to have someone punished because you want them to be punished. To you, this is about punishing the players of security because they did something you didn't want them to.

We were working with limited officer coverage, and I did state my reason for taking them to the permabrig quite clearly ICly, "see how they like a dark room with no power." A scare tactic to soften them up before interrogation. The intention was to process them as normal after power was restored (which obviously would've been impossible with no engine or solars working at all,) but the crux of the issue is right here: What can we deduce from this? Well, point one, the arrest wasn't exactly motivated by "You're a cultist, grr!" Or if it was, there is no evidence of it. It was used to set an example, by taking down the entire engineering department. After that, sec makes their presence known around engineering, people start attacking one another, PoZe and Techno attack the borg that sec had accompany them, and it goes off from there. Now, why would sec do this? Quite simple: it's a means of getting back in control over a situation which, in their eyes, had escalated out of control. It was the security department choosing to try and slot engineering back into the playfield, whence they had perceived that engineering had left said playfield. The entire engineering department wasn't a target until PoZe started attacking the cyborg, but by that time they were all involved already, so "all of engineering" wasn't the goal at the outset but rather just happened as the arrests went on. There are actually logs where I hesitated ICly when I realized we had one more person than expected in the brig, but after remembering the assault that took place I brushed it off and threw him in there with the others. The idea with throwing those charges around was very much to scare a childish engineering crew who thought they could get away with blackmail; would they hold up under close scrutiny in a Sol Government court? Maybe. But I enjoyed interacting with Anya/Cassie as they were being arrested because it looked like that was going to be the best interrogation, the crackdown was having its desired effect. As you can see, that feeling quickly disappeared when they took things to LOOC/OOC. The idea was to scare them ICly, but instead I was met with a blind LOOC rage in which they began to blame me for everything they could possibly think of - and rage at anyone (I'm looking at Josh) who agreed with what I did. I could have kept Edmund resisting until he died, but I thought I could turn the tide back to something that was actually fun instead. I didn't take to LOOC explaining in blind anger how bad everyone was; I did my utmost to keep my disapproval to a minimum. I didn't go inject myself with a loyalty implant to circumvent what had just happened and go on a murderspree. "Lead by example" was the idea, but with that out the window with the rest of what went on I decided to micro-focus on some "raving madman" RP instead - Edmund did have his mind almost shattered, at any rate. I was honestly surprised to see this complaint, considering the OOC behavior of Cassie, TechnoKat, and PoZe (Direwolf was notably absent from the LOOC rage, if I recall correctly.)

You're missing the point; this is indicative of a trend with you and your characters. Let's review. Your actions as a head of staff are "questionable" at best, and I've seen more than once when you shout out "anyone who knows how to use a gun, come to security" when you get whiffs of an antagonist aboard. Antony Bennit alone is a "paranoid" individual who apparently does enough drugs to grind up pets into food, keeps an ID modification console in his office "because he wants to," decides to blow up crates that Jaylor (that would be me) warned you not two seconds before you blew it up that - quote - "they explode when you shoot them," and then evades security because "oh my god they're following me, better make it worse by sabotaging equipment." You never gave out so much as a hint of paranoia prior to all of this. Again, you hardly spoke a single line during this entire phase to begin with - "roleplay" is not doing what you want and justifying it later. I doubt someone so mentally disturbed would pass the most rudimentary of interviews for a management position.

Not the escape shuttle, the engineering outpost shuttle (mistype on my part.) I suppose you thought an ID modification computer, an AI console, and all those other boards were "a good idea to have" in the office as well? If it was all above-board, then why try to hide it by replacing the glass airlock with a solid one, and windows with walls? Why did you try to prevent people from following you to the outpost? Why did you deliberately blow up a crate in the engineering shuttle dock? You knew what you were doing was wrong.

I could argue this with you all day, but Skull and Josh have logs, and I hope they're going to chime in here at some point with definitive clarification. You're misrepresenting a great number of things in order to distance yourself from what took place. You're acting like we held you for an hour while sitting on our thumbs and waiting for you to repent of your sins - that was not the case. I didn't even have time to begin questioning before I was ambushed. You're speculating on things that you think we would have done, but the fact of the matter is that we'll never know. You're also conveniently leaving out the logs in which I repeatedly asked about the engine, and the engine room, and when it was going to be fixed. I waited a good amount of time for this to happen before I actually went ahead with my arrests - I even ahelped the entire thing first to precede the amount of bitching I knew was going to come out of it, because you handled a two-minute arrest with a "retribution" that was scaled way out of proportion. Again, given time, Anya could have been ruled out of involvement, but we can't know that because I was ambushed. I have - and quite successfully, as a few players around here could tell you. None of it involves shit-tier "threats" to deprive the entire station of power without expecting any sort of consequence. Whether you were involved or not, a good antagonist knows how to distance himself from others who'll be caught more easily and use them as a distraction rather than try to save them with idiotic forms of blackmail. You got some terrible luck of the draw, and you failed to distance yourself from them properly by vocalizing your support, resulting in your being lumped in with them when the lot of you were arrested. You didn't play an antagonist properly. Learn from it, or don't. It's a gross exaggeration to say this even remotely "ruined" the round for you - hell, I even decided to join you after incessant rune-spam-clicking from the lot of you, but then your grand idea became to mob everyone at arrivals and convert them en masse before they'd even had a chance to properly situate themselves. How is that fun for anyone? Perhaps the most telling was Bennit's reaction to when I called the lot of you out on your terrible play, and his response was: "How were we terrible when we won?" That seems to be the mindset behind this entire complaint.

Bennit was the one who first yelled that "engineering was against you." Lauren Blade then said she would shut off the engine, to which Bennit (still incarcerated during his two-minute stint, mind you) agreed. She then went and pulled the energy cell out of the APC. I'd only intended to stick Bennit in for a time-out to begin with, and I didn't change my mind, so we let him go after his two minute stint was up. I asked engineering to put the energy cell back into the APC. Nothing. I asked several times, but all I got back was that, "we don't feel respected so you get no power." That's nigh on word-for-word from Lauren Blade. Childish bullshit at its finest. My intention was never to arrest "the entire engineering department," but rather the three (Bennit, Lauren, and Anya) who had all vocally stated their involvement over the radio. The last guy (Dmytro) was only brought in after, during the arrest, he fought against officers and the borg along with Lauren. In short, we arrested everyone who had vocally stated their refusal to work on the sabotaged engine and those who fought back, and the entire department was lumped into one category or the other if not both. The only one who didn't actually fight back was Anya and, if I hadn't been ambushed, she'd probably have been the only one to walk out of there when she got the chance to explain what was going on. Let me emphasize one more thing: The "cult" was only held in the powered-down permabrig (not a "small cramped solitary cell") for about two minutes before being freed by an ambush, and they were raging in LOOC the entire time, as Josh can testify. I even went out of my way to dismiss the arcane tome and the talisman as "modern art bullshit" but they couldn't stop screaming their heads off about metagaming (which I've yet to see a case for, honestly.)

I started observing the engine room when they stated they would be sabotaging the engine to prevent us from having power. Surprise surprise. This was not "the engine wasn't set up properly." This was intentional sabotage to deny the station of power - and it was directly stated that this was the goal, by Lauren Blade - the same individual that, as you may recall, is the one I spotted removing the power cell from the APC not a minute after the declaration. Blame the people who shouted that was the case (see also: everyone who was arrested.) We had an engineering borg setting up solars - given time, we would've had power again. Mind you - none of these whiners spent five minutes in the permabrig, they flooded my LOOC and a cultist took advantage of it to rush me and knock me out, so don't bring your victim card out just yet. I've also never seen someone jump in on a complaint so quickly without actually understanding what I've explained. I've noticed that you tend to do this a lot, so let me be exceedingly clear about this: They were all guilty of attempting to blackmail the entire station, and each of them directly stated their part in it over the radio. They were arrested for denying the station power, and my decision to place them in the permabrig was mostly due to the fact that the actual cellblock was running out of power very quickly. The plan was to move them once power was restored, but as I stated earlier, that never actually happened because - again - I was attacked. I'll say this again so it's absolutely clear without any room for misinterpretation: The aforementioned players spent approximately two minutes in the permabrig. If your argument is that anyone can do as they damn well please just because there's no command staff, I have terrible news for you. You vocally agreed with Lauren - who had directly stated that she was shutting down the engine - then changed your mind while you were being arrested. Like everyone does to try to plea their innocence. We hardly had time to process you - why is this even a complaint? If you didn't know the full extent of what they had been doing, then you fell through the cracks because you ran your mouth - it happens. Get this through your head, though: there were only three of you, and by your own admission, two of them were involved with the secession/sabotage, so a majority of the engineering staff did indeed know about the hostile activity taking place. Again, the engineers were inciting rebellion - just because there's no chain of command doesn't mean it's impossible to incite rebellion. Trying to play rules lawyer with a two-line blurb on a webpage is just an excuse for the shit-tier antagging that took place - period.

You missed a few details. Specifically, the parts where: I watched Lauren Blade, on camera, sabotage the engine by removing the energy cell from the APC in the engine room. I advised the engineering staff of this and also suggested that they bring the engine back up. Everyone in the engineering staff claimed they had no knowledge of how to set up the singularity. I advised that the energy cell be replaced. I waited fifteen minutes. We rushed to tech storage because we heard a flash and subsequent beatings as we were arresting engineering, discovering Lauren and Dmytro assaulting the borg and officers who came to perform the arrest, at which point nonviolent sedition was upgraded to mutiny. You may also remember that you continually shouted "engineering is against you!" That wholly constitutes trying to separate the station into "Nations" as mentioned in the sedition charge (neglect of duty and sabotage of the engine should be self-explanatory.) One of you even yelled "ATMOSIA!" at one point, in case I hadn't driven the point home sufficiently. This entire complaint boils down to this - you decided to escalate a two-minute time-out for your friend into blackmailing security by withholding power from the entire station, and now you're whining that you got arrested for it - did you honestly expect that to go any differently? Never mind you lot went on to be complete shitlords for the rest of the round, openly encouraging attacking people in arrivals and converting them and moronic things like that. I'm surprised all of you aren't antag-banned.

He was arrested for modifying his office first, and then did the shenanigans with the escape engineering outpost shuttle - that's right. Edit: Correcting the exact shuttle - my bad.

BYOND Key: EvilBrage Player Byond Key: Direwolf20 Staff involved: None present Reason for complaint: Self-antagging, utterly abusing the whitelist, etc. Approximate Date/Time: Approx. 12-3am, 5/26/15 In short - this is that one round some of you will recognize in which Dire's chief engineer Antony Bennit decided to replace all the windows around the CE office with reinforced walls. It was later discovered that he had created multiple consoles in the office - ID computer, crew monitor, robotics control, etc after having taken all of the boards from secure tech storage. When asked about this - and advised not to shoot open the locked-down abandoned crate - he proceeds to do just that, causing an explosion in the engineering shuttle dock. Note that there was no communication despite repeated attempts at speaking with Antony apart from a one-line "oops" when he blew up the abandoned crate. Not only that, but he also dismantles the shuttle computer and flees to the engineering outpost, where he proceeds to vent the entire outpost into space by forcing all of the exterior airlocks open. When he is finally captured, his response is to yell "YOU SUCK" and go SSD. Bearing in mind that Direwolf was not an antagonist, this is not behavior acceptable from any player, let alone a whitelisted one. No administrator was online at the time (I tried to get a hold of Aqy but it seems he was flooded with other issues) but other players can corroborate my story; I encourage you to speak up.

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Please read my entire post before asking for something that's already there.

#1: I was trying to burn a paper in the incinerator, because why not, amirite? I threw it in there and then ignited a plasma + oxy mix. When all was said and done, instead of "lock interior" I hit "force exterior." Cue death. #2: I was trying to hide from the captain in his office when the power went out and gravity was down. I stuck myself in the disposals unit - only to realize I'd forgotten to turn off the disposal. You cannot exit disposals without gravity. Cue death.

IPC's have their specific limits for a reason (mind you, I've always despised the idea of free-will synthetics on the station, but we can't win them all.) That's an avenue of exploration for your RP, but instead you'd prefer to throw that out the window in favor of copying an idea from an anime you saw once because you think it's super cool. So when I want to play as a demon, can I do that too since we have cultists and wizards who could theoretically summon them? How about a zombie? It's super easy, all you'd have to do is apply the "husked" visual! Can I play as a chicken? Can I play as this, that, and the other? "No more races" isn't the argument, it's "let's make the races we do add count before it gets to the ridiculous point where the aforementioned argument is necessary." Again, if you want to reskin IPC's to look like crash test dummies? Great! Want to add little robotic cat ears because you can't get your fix of kawaii from tajarans and unathi? Wonderful. But my chief concern comes in when you get to the RP cop-out. Why have a cyborg or AI project at all if everyone would much rather jump right into another body, free will intact? This race essentially makes AI's and cyborgs redundant, and were it not for the set of mechanical powers that come along with them, no one would choose them over the shell because being in a shell is "easier." If you want your fix of transhumanist RP, go for a cyborg or AI and try to embrace restrictions rather than throw them away for the sake of emulating an anime. tl;dr Why play an AI, cyborg, or IPC when you can just pop in a race that has everything they do and more?