Make IE Drones actual entities instead of items.

[sonicgotnuked]

You should be able to shoot these things and beat them to death. Yes, they can bring down antags while the scientist is sitting half way across the station with a cup of coffee. You can also stun lock people.

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[Sytic]

Agreed. They can be loaded with EMPs and completely gank IPCs. aaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

I NEVER FORGET, SONIC

Edited September 9, 2019 by Sytic
NEVER

[IAmCrystalClear]

Ah, the joys of integrated circuits. This is just as bad as the disarm-spam shock-gloves.

Like force gloves, but worse!

[Doxxmedearly]

These things shut down an entire raider gimmick. Honestly, the ability to shock people with circuits should be just. Really considered for removal.

[Kaed]

2 hours ago, Doxxmedearly said:

These things shut down an entire raider gimmick. Honestly, the ability to shock people with circuits should be just. Really considered for removal.

While I can respect how frustrating that was, this kind of knee jerk response to new features is a bad thing. There's definitely ways that this feature could be improved, like a way to counter it mechanically, but the fact that it "shut down a gimmick" is hardly intermediate warrant team for its removal.

Gimmicks are shut down all the time by people with lasers and batons, but we don't remove them, we just nerf them.

Edited September 9, 2019 by Kaed

[Roostercat]

I feel like this is bc of last night’s shock drones, and I completely agree

Edited September 9, 2019 by Roostercat

[sonicgotnuked]

1 hour ago, Doxxmedearly said:

These things shut down an entire raider gimmick. Honestly, the ability to shock people with circuits should be just. Really considered for removal.

I don't agree with removing them. If the drone can be whacked and the hour of work scrapped just by shooting at it. This would be a great counter. 

[Doxxmedearly]

7 minutes ago, Kaed said:

While I can respect how frustrating that was, this kind of knee jerk response to new features is a bad thing. There's definitely ways that this feature could be improved, like a way to counter it mechanically, but the fact that it "shut down a gimmick" is hardly intermediate warrant team for its removal.

Gimmicks are shut down all the time by people with lasers and batons, but we don't remove them, we just nerf them.

Which is why I said considered. Not "they need to be removed." Let's relax.

OP's suggestion might be what's needed to balance these things. So if that works, great. But shocking circuits need to be watched closely for things like this, considering the million ways one can program them.

[sonicgotnuked]

57 minutes ago, Doxxmedearly said:

Which is why I said considered. Not "they need to be removed." Let's relax.

OP's suggestion might be what's needed to balance these things. So if that works, great. But shocking circuits need to be watched closely for things like this, considering the million ways one can program them.

I always found drones limited to half a second or so response times for movement  You can easily out pace them. Unless I or someone else somehow figure out more speed, shooting or bashing the thing should be rather nice without just outright nerfing the fun stuff that makes them fun regardless to play around with.

[sonicgotnuked]

57 minutes ago, Doxxmedearly said:

Which is why I said considered. Not "they need to be removed." Let's relax.

OP's suggestion might be what's needed to balance these things. So if that works, great. But shocking circuits need to be watched closely for things like this, considering the million ways one can program them.

I always found drones limited to half a second or so response times for movement  You can easily out pace them. Unless I or someone else somehow figure out more speed, shooting or bashing the thing should be rather nice without just outright nerfing the fun stuff that makes them fun regardless to play around with.

[Doxxmedearly]

Like I said. If making them an entity works, and no other ridiculous things come out of them being around, then I don't care if we keep them.