ketiw2 Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 BYOND Key: ketiw2 Total Ban Length: Permaban Banning staff member's Key: Alberyk Reason of Ban: Jumping down disposals and lying to staff Reason for Appeal: Am not sure about the second part but i did jump down the disposal system. 2019-04-09 - 9 months and 1 emotional outburst later am still banned for such a minor offense i dont even comprehend how i could get perma in the first place. And not only banned - am litterely infected with ban virus because whereever i go - ban hammer follows. Whatever mcDonalds, internet coffe, library i visit - i bring the ban plague with me and then, noone can join aurora station - tested on 3 completely blank - never before connected PCs with my friends beyond keys at 3 different locations i frequnted a 9 months ago when played last time. That's a bit overkill for jumping down disposals 9 months ago
Alberyk Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, ketiw2 said: And not only banned - am litterely infected with ban virus because whereever i go - ban hammer follows. Whatever mcDonalds, internet coffe, library i visit - i bring the ban plague with me and then, noone can join aurora station - tested on 3 completely blank - never before connected PCs with my friends beyond keys at 3 different locations i frequnted a 9 months ago when played last time. So, you tried to ban evade?
ketiw2 Posted January 2, 2020 Author Posted January 2, 2020 Obviously no, that would require me to install linux, changing ip and connecting to VPN. Not asking my friend to join a server : )
Alberyk Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 So, you lied in your appeal about this? Because this makes no sense, or is this a joke or something?
ketiw2 Posted January 2, 2020 Author Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) Not at all, i think you just read it wrong. It's not ban evading when a friend is connecting on his computer with his id on the server from a place we both visit, obviously i just wanted to show him the best spacestation 13 experience as he is an avid ss13 player too Edited January 2, 2020 by ketiw2
Skull132 Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 That really just makes you a shit friend though. ?
ketiw2 Posted January 2, 2020 Author Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) Are you suggesting i was ban evading besides being offensive and calling me shit friend for referring my friend to the server? Edited January 2, 2020 by ketiw2
ketiw2 Posted January 2, 2020 Author Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) Can you just drop the offensiveness for a moment Skull please? I'am trully sorry for my one post here on the forums - i was really frustrated by the whole ordeal going on for almost a year for a minor offense. Not only that maybe i was also frustrated by your open hostility towards me besides just shittalk you perma banned me from the discord with no explanation (expost i was informed it was for "whining" even thought only evidence of that you presented was me saying bye and litterely leaving the conversation - thats december 2019) . Your, what i view as, unjust discord perma ban was the trigger for the forum post yet im still sorry for making it. I just want to play the game and b cool with you all. Edited January 2, 2020 by ketiw2
ketiw2 Posted January 2, 2020 Author Posted January 2, 2020 Hey lads i really appreciate the fact that you've been here 5 minutes after me posting this request - despite you only coming here to try to incriminate me and then calling me shit i really apreciate your professional approach and it's really hard for me to imagine how someone would get triggered dealing with you lot
Xelnagahunter Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 3 hours ago, ketiw2 said: Not at all, i think you just read it wrong. It's not ban evading when a friend is connecting on his computer with his id on the server from a place we both visit, obviously i just wanted to show him the best spacestation 13 experience as he is an avid ss13 player too 3 hours ago, ketiw2 said: i bring the ban plague with me and then, noone can join aurora station - tested on 3 completely blank - never before connected PCs with my friends beyond keys at 3 different locations i frequnted So, were you "testing" your connections or showing the server to your friends?
ketiw2 Posted January 2, 2020 Author Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) It's obviously more complicated then that, involves multiple friends over different time periods, some of them with previous ss13 experience some of them without. Anyway, it was never me trying to evade ban otherwise I would use proven methods and I didn't visited aurora since ban those are facts. Also - who are you? As far as I know you can't lift this ban and you are in no way connected to my case up until this point so are you here just to piss on me or what's the point of this? Is this still unban request or interrogation? Edited January 2, 2020 by ketiw2
ketiw2 Posted January 2, 2020 Author Posted January 2, 2020 Also it goes without saying that there are places like this one where I am located right now where I only ever connected from single PC and one notebook. Now all pcs are banned which is fine I guess even thought it's not kinda fair I get it why because this prevents ban evades. Maybe it's not strictly legal as there is IP stored permanently of a business that never gave consent + it's literally a internet coffee so a case can be made but as I said I don't contest this. What I find very odd is that I went to visit a friend showed him some ss13 action on my notebook in his home - clicked on Aurora as well when browsing - still banned ofc - played on some other servers and that was it. Weeks pass - I get a call - he plays ss13 for fee days and wants to try aurora and his home is banned - and i ever only connected once from my notebook with my banned Id. We still talking about a ban for jumping down disposals btw. As I said in OP it seems like a little overkill that's it. I never ment to elaborate on it - I don't know why you guys took upon yourself to investigate and smear this comment but I really wanna play the game and not do drama, why not give me a chance?
Xelnagahunter Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, ketiw2 said: Also - who are you? As far as I know you can't lift this ban and you are in no way connected to my case up until this point so are you here just to piss on me or what's the point of this? Is this still unban request or interrogation? I am a moderator on the server who helped to clarify the issues we are seeing that make this case hard to think of as real. You make statements without details and try to fill in those details later, even when the wording choice used seemingly contradicts one another. Take this as you will, but I wasn't trying to "piss on you". Also, our administration (and other) staff team(s) is(are) exactly that, a team. This means we do often work together and communicate with one another in order to better help solve issues. Thank you in advance for understanding.
ketiw2 Posted January 3, 2020 Author Posted January 3, 2020 All I see is too much drama for a minor offense and one minor provoked rant. Must be a tough rulling this one - I think trully deserving that 24 hour consideration by a 3 staff committee
ReadThisNamePlz Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 15 hours ago, ketiw2 said: All I see is too much drama for a minor offense and one minor provoked rant. Must be a tough ruling this one - I think trully deserving that 24 hour consideration by a 3 staff committee Okay bud. I'm going to tell you this now. You're being overly hostile. You are being rude, abrasive, and for lack of better wording- You're being a general asshole. If you want Alb, Skull or anyone really to even entertain the thought of unbanning you.. You've gotta clean up your attitude. Our first rule on the server is, Don't be a dick. And right now, you're being a dick. I'm sure you've got genuine reasons for appealing, and that you really are serious about playing here. But I also think you need to work on controlling your anger. Yes, this process is annoying, but an appeal is not a right. It's a privilege. That being said, I apologize for harsh language I've used.
ketiw2 Posted January 4, 2020 Author Posted January 4, 2020 I know an am sorry for this sarcastic commentary. It's just the fact that this request is open for 48 hours and instead what would most people consider a clear case of (first) second chance am getting the whole admin staff jumping here. Also am being called shit friend so there is that : )
Alberyk Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 I took some time to consult other staff, and think about this, and I have reached the conclusion that I don't really think we should unban you. After you got denied a first time, you keep making alts to try to approach staff about it. And your attitude is not really any good or welcome here, sorry. Appeal denied.
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